[DevonHardy]

Hey guys, I'm torn between plans. I'm 19 and graduating high school in May and I wanna celebrate by spending my summer in an awesome city. I'm a web dev/design so I can pretty much from work anywhere. I plan on leaving at the end of June / early July.

In these categories which do you think would be most worth it:

1) Most fun
2) Hottest girls
3) Dating (Especially interracial, because I'm black)
4) Best entertainment


Also, how hard would it be to game girls in either city being black. I mean I don't "act black" and I've been called an oreo (not sure if it matters). So any tips on that would be awesome!

Thanks for any answers guys!

[Vicious]

Miami is definitely the best in the summer regarding fun and entertainment.

However, for a 19 yo Miami is an uphill battle.

With your skills NYC is also a much better fit.

[DevonHardy]

(04-17-2014 05:38 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Miami is definitely the best in the summer regarding fun and entertainment.

However, for a 19 yo Miami is an uphill battle.

With your skills NYC is also a much better fit.

Thanks for the answer. Quick question though, how would Miami be an uphill battle for a 19 year old?

[Rotisserie]

I've only been to Miami once for a week, NYC many times for a summer and some weekends. In the summer, NYC's one of those cities where you wonder 'why doesn't everyone live here?' then winter rolls along, and you say 'oh. I see.' If you're ever going to spend an extended period of time in NYC, it should be in the summer. Miami, as a 'tropical' city, will be awesome year round, but I'm not sure the ceiling's quite as high as for an NYC summer.

Two more points: NYC most definitely has a wider selection of flags, and I would think you can get more web dev/design connections in NYC than Miami.

Unless you want to develop a porn site:

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-ma...ite-2013-8

Quote:

Right now the owner of a pornographic website is doing an AMA on Reddit, and the details behind his business are fascinating.
...
He claimed to clear $280,000 last year, so evidently people like to watch pornography on the internet. Who knew?

[Yeti]

New York can be dead in the summer, at least on weekends. White people and other try-hard young professionals try to get away on weekends - which means Thursday night/Friday morning until Sunday evening. They party in shit clubs in the Hamptons or in New Jersey. Immigrants and people like me are left behind.

A lot of companies operate on summer hours - work extra Monday to Thursday, and take Friday off (while remaining connected by email).

New York is kind of lonely in the summer, in a way. Weird, isn't that - you'd think the most diverse, happening (in some ways), beautiful city in the U.S. would be bumping on a Saturday night in July. I'm often twiddling my thumbs at work and elsewhere.

Students give up their apartment leases in July and August so the apartment selection is greatest, but so is the competition - students and summer workers are moving in, after all. So you can find the best places in the summer, but you'll face the highest prices. The best time to find a good deal on an apartment in New York City is October 23 to October 30. Or November - the students have found a place, and no one wants to move when it's cold.

In New York in the summertime, the subways are a festering cesspool of piss, poverty, and panhandlers. The beaches are absolute rubbish - the parks are quite nice (parks act as our beaches in the summertime) but there's no alcohol allowed. It's fucking whack. The police generally don't bother you if you drink alcohol in a low-key manner, but the feeling of trying not to get caught sours the mood.

Every American should live for a year in New York City.

[DevonHardy]

(04-17-2014 05:58 PM)Rotisserie Wrote:  

I've only been to Miami once for a week, NYC many times for a summer and some weekends. In the summer, NYC's one of those cities where you wonder 'why doesn't everyone live here?' then winter rolls along, and you say 'oh. I see.' If you're ever going to spend an extended period of time in NYC, it should be in the summer. Miami, as a 'tropical' city, will be awesome year round, but I'm not sure the ceiling's quite as high as for an NYC summer.

Two more points: NYC most definitely has a wider selection of flags, and I would think you can get more web dev/design connections in NYC than Miami.

Unless you want to develop a porn site:

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-ma...ite-2013-8

Quote:

Right now the owner of a pornographic website is doing an AMA on Reddit, and the details behind his business are fascinating.
...
He claimed to clear $280,000 last year, so evidently people like to watch pornography on the internet. Who knew?

Thanks for the link to that, interesting stuff. Weirdly enough, it's been in the back of my mind.

[DevonHardy]

(04-17-2014 06:03 PM)Yeti Wrote:  

New York can be dead in the summer, at least on weekends. White people and other try-hard young professionals try to get away on weekends - which means Thursday night/Friday morning until Sunday evening. They party in shit clubs in the Hamptons or in New Jersey. Immigrants and people like me are left behind.

A lot of companies operate on summer hours - work extra Monday to Thursday, and take Friday off (while remaining connected by email).

New York is kind of lonely in the summer, in a way. Weird, isn't that - you'd think the most diverse, happening (in some ways), beautiful city in the U.S. would be bumping on a Saturday night in July. I'm often twiddling my thumbs at work and elsewhere.

Students give up their apartment leases in July and August so the apartment selection is greatest, but so is the competition - students and summer workers are moving in, after all. So you can find the best places in the summer, but you'll face the highest prices. The best time to find a good deal on an apartment in New York City is October 23 to October 30. Or November - the students have found a place, and no one wants to move when it's cold.

In New York in the summertime, the subways are a festering cesspool of piss, poverty, and panhandlers. The beaches are absolute rubbish - the parks are quite nice (parks act as our beaches in the summertime) but there's no alcohol allowed. It's fucking whack. The police generally don't bother you if you drink alcohol in a low-key manner, but the feeling of trying not to get caught sours the mood.

Every American should live for a year in New York City.

Very detailed answers. I was planning on bailing once the cold comes in. I really hate it, which is one of the reasons I'm moving to Los Angeles after I get back.

[philly22]

(04-17-2014 05:49 PM)DevonHardy Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 05:38 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Miami is definitely the best in the summer regarding fun and entertainment.

However, for a 19 yo Miami is an uphill battle.

With your skills NYC is also a much better fit.

Thanks for the answer. Quick question though, how would Miami be an uphill battle for a 19 year old?

Miami is hard for a 19 year old assuming you don't have a good bankroll. Its expensive (although so is NYC). However while there are gold diggers everywhere, in Miami its very common. Latin girls are very codependent and if you don't have something to offer you're not gonna generate much interest.

You'll be expected to go on expensive dates- so many guys blow through their cash quick then go back to where they came from lighter in the pockets.

[Courage Reborn]

Why not do both?

[DevonHardy]

(04-17-2014 07:05 PM)Courage Reborn Wrote:  

Why not do both?

If the money is there I might consider this and mirin your travels.

[DevonHardy]

(04-17-2014 06:31 PM)philly22 Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 05:49 PM)DevonHardy Wrote:  

(04-17-2014 05:38 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Miami is definitely the best in the summer regarding fun and entertainment.

However, for a 19 yo Miami is an uphill battle.

With your skills NYC is also a much better fit.

Thanks for the answer. Quick question though, how would Miami be an uphill battle for a 19 year old?

Miami is hard for a 19 year old assuming you don't have a good bankroll. Its expensive (although so is NYC). However while there are gold diggers everywhere, in Miami its very common. Latin girls are very codependent and if you don't have something to offer you're not gonna generate much interest.

You'll be expected to go on expensive dates- so many guys blow through their cash quick then go back to where they came from lighter in the pockets.

I see, but even though I'm 19 I've been learning this for about 4 years. I've built up a pretty good gold digger shield.

[Vitriol]

Just keep in mind that Miami is extremely hot or raining all the time in July through September. It's the "off-season" in terms of tourism.

...and if you're going to stick to South Beach exclusively, don't waste your time. There are already tons of threads on here about why trying to run tourist game in that neighborhood doesn't work.

[worldwidetraveler]

If I was 19, I would head up to Montreal where I could legally drink.

[DevonHardy]

(04-18-2014 12:26 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

If I was 19, I would head up to Montreal where I could legally drink.

That's a good option, but I don't any interest in drinking so I think I'd be bored.

[Distant Light]

NYC...Hands down...

You did say your 19 right? Do you have a fake? I can't see how you'll get to fully enjoy yourself in Miami at 19. That said, NY is an actual city with soooo much shit going on. Yes people go to the hamptons or europe BUT that's mainly the more high end scene which being underage will be tough to get into unless you walk in with models. (They won't bother checking ids 80% of the time)

However, NY has way more than partying AND from what I remember the warehouse parties don't CARD. You can go to some cool ass parties in brooklyn. When I was underage even though I was able to slip into one venue...I used to go out in the daytime LOTS OF TOURIST and summer euro interns. Improv and plays always going on. Certain days you can hang in union square and people will be there ALL NIGHT. (Homeless even sleep around 4am)

At 19 there is still webstar hall and pacha which aren't nothing compared to the high end scene BUT from time to time they have good acts.

P.S...If you like hipsters, you'll be able to clean up during the summer. There is always some scenster party going on amongst those circles. Rooftop parties, loft parties, bbqs, etc. Those places don't ID. (generally) What I love about NYC is that no matter what time of the year it is still a CITY. When I think of miami I just think south beach glamour meanwhile everywhere surrounding that one spot is "meh". In NY, if you wanted a change of speed you could take subway to queens and try out all sorts of ethnic cuisine. (Tibet, Pakistani, Taiwanese, etc)

P.S.S...For the past few years MOST of the connectors who go out to hamptons have opted out more and more people stay in the city. HOWEVER, in high end scene you do notice a slight shift, usually around august.

[WestCoast]

I was going to write a long answer to this but then saw vicious and DL.

No brainer listen to them. NYC mainly because you're 19.

NYU dorms, lower east side and a fake ID bro! Good to go. Jealous if this is your first time out there, you won't forget it!

[TheBulldozer]

Devon,

Do you have a job lined up? I can point you in the direction of summer jobs in NYC that don't pay great but are a ton of fun, offer access to a cool social network and get you invited to rich college kid summer parties.

[DevonHardy]

(04-18-2014 04:11 AM)Distant Light Wrote:  

NYC...Hands down...

You did say your 19 right? Do you have a fake? I can't see how you'll get to fully enjoy yourself in Miami at 19. That said, NY is an actual city with soooo much shit going on. Yes people go to the hamptons or europe BUT that's mainly the more high end scene which being underage will be tough to get into unless you walk in with models. (They won't bother checking ids 80% of the time)

However, NY has way more than partying AND from what I remember the warehouse parties don't CARD. You can go to some cool ass parties in brooklyn. When I was underage even though I was able to slip into one venue...I used to go out in the daytime LOTS OF TOURIST and summer euro interns. Improv and plays always going on. Certain days you can hang in union square and people will be there ALL NIGHT. (Homeless even sleep around 4am)

At 19 there is still webstar hall and pacha which aren't nothing compared to the high end scene BUT from time to time they have good acts.

P.S...If you like hipsters, you'll be able to clean up during the summer. There is always some scenster party going on amongst those circles. Rooftop parties, loft parties, bbqs, etc. Those places don't ID. (generally) What I love about NYC is that no matter what time of the year it is still a CITY. When I think of miami I just think south beach glamour meanwhile everywhere surrounding that one spot is "meh". In NY, if you wanted a change of speed you could take subway to queens and try out all sorts of ethnic cuisine. (Tibet, Pakistani, Taiwanese, etc)

P.S.S...For the past few years MOST of the connectors who go out to hamptons have opted out more and more people stay in the city. HOWEVER, in high end scene you do notice a slight shift, usually around august.

Shit that sounds awesome! I think finding an apartment would be tough though. Do you know any surrounding areas rents in the sub 2k range?

[DevonHardy]

(04-18-2014 12:13 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

I was going to write a long answer to this but then saw vicious and DL.

No brainer listen to them. NYC mainly because you're 19.

NYU dorms, lower east side and a fake ID bro! Good to go. Jealous if this is your first time out there, you won't forget it!

Dude, you should have wrote it! I really need all the advice I can get. And yeah this is my first time going and really my first time out of my home state Georgia.

[DevonHardy]

(04-18-2014 12:17 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  

Devon,

Do you have a job lined up? I can point you in the direction of summer jobs in NYC that don't pay great but are a ton of fun, offer access to a cool social network and get you invited to rich college kid summer parties.

I'll probably try to line up some remote work before leaving in June. But, if you have leads it'd be awesome if you filled me in bro. Thanks!

[Tideride]

I say consider Los Angeles or San Diego- the bitch shields aren't as bad as Miamis. If you want the connections the Bay Area or Seattle.

Between Miami and NYC in the Summer I'd go Miami- exhaust fumes versus beach and sunshine. NYC will have more diversity of talent but can you go to a tropical beach and dance all night in NY?

Another idea is to go to Eastern Europe- it will be cheaper and the girls will look better. iOS Greece is a party island, Hvar, Bucharest, Odessa, Riga, the list is endless...

I admit my bias to the West coast and EE. I'd say try EE- Bucharest has a lot of talent.

[DevonHardy]

(04-18-2014 02:05 PM)Tideride Wrote:  

I say consider Los Angeles or San Diego- the bitch shields aren't as bad as Miamis. If you want the connections the Bay Area or Seattle.

Between Miami and NYC in the Summer I'd go Miami- exhaust fumes versus beach and sunshine. NYC will have more diversity of talent but can you go to a tropical beach and dance all night in NY?

Another idea is to go to Eastern Europe- it will be cheaper and the girls will look better. iOS Greece is a party island, Hvar, Bucharest, Odessa, Riga, the list is endless...

I admit my bias to the West coast and EE. I'd say try EE- Bucharest has a lot of talent.

I would do LA/SD, but I'm already moving out that way in August or September. I've thought Europe too, but my parents and family would freak shit if I went. Plus, I don't think it would be smart for a fresh out of high school 19 year old to do it alone. It's still something to consider though.

[TheBulldozer]

PM sent Devon

[Vicious]

Follow the money.

/thread

[tomtud]

Montreal in the summer!!! The american dollar street.ches your fun that much more. You can legally drink at 18 and rentals will be much more cheaper than the other 2. Since you want NYC or MIA. Well, if u want tropical beaches per se and a warm ocean to kick back then miami. Nightlife all around will be good. New York,if you want to visit museums or hang in other cool boroughs. OR,,,,,,,

Skip all that and go someplace in the Caribbean (Cancun, DR, Cuba if u can).