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Working A Lazy Low Paying Job To Work On Your Hustles
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Working A Lazy Low Paying Job To Work On Your Hustles

I see a lot of posts of people asking what skills to learn or jobs or industries to get into. I thought this topic may be of interest to some of you. If your very entreprenuerial or looking to acquire some skills on your own to work at for money later but aren't making money to do your husltes or focus on entrepernushp and support yourself right off the bat I'd suggest this strategy.

I have a college degree, was working in online marketing/advertising and media buying at a startup. Really cool atmoshphere. Problem was in 2007 when the economy went to shit and especially car companies I wound up without a job, most of my clients were car companies.

I wind up landing a job at orbitz however comming from a startup I wanted to kill myself working for a big corporation. 3 days in I raised my hand in a meeting and said I can't do this, turned in my laptop walked out and quit. At the time I was being a bit immature, I probably should have stuck it out a bit but had a bit of entitelment attitude maybe and thought comapnies were just throwing 50k a year jobs at graduates. I quickly learned that wasn't the case.

Fast forward a few months I land a job. Has benefits but nothing reat making like $13 an hour however it's a job where I have a lot of downtime and only have my manager stop in about once a week.

I probably should have moved on by now but decided it's easy and I don't mind the job, but more importantly because I have so much freetime I'm covered by insurance, and have plenty of time to read, learn languages, work on websites and my own hustles. This actually worked out well for me.

First couple years I hustled a bit at affiliate marketing and blogging, nothing big maybe making a few hundred a month, got into a few other hustles, took some time to learn coding a bit, learn spanish, read and leanred about PPC advertising, basially just trying to become more well rounded and learn some marketable skills and maybe some things I could hire myself out as a consultant doing.

Well a few years in I see my little sister who graduated a few years after me pulling in like 60k a year, same with many of my friends. I started wondering if I went wrong with my strategy because I make maybe 30k at my day job and though my hustels maybe bring me 10k a year I'm still making less than them.

Well I wind up starting a business, I have plenty of timee at my day job to send out email blasts, do marketing, take orders on the phone, etc. Was making about 5k a month, not bad but splitting it with a partner and even then most money rolled back into busines. I was happy but still not caught up to my sister and peers in terms of income. IN the past 6-8 months my business has really exploded though, we doing 15k to 20k a month, both still working our day jobs so still have insurance and a steady paycheck in addition to my business. Again, I don't take a lot of income out but can start paying myself more and all the rest of the money although held in merchant holds and stuff is still mine someday. I'm finaly getting to the point where I"m ready to quit my job, making enough money and business has grown to the point where I can no longer manage it fulltime without either quitting or hiring an employee which I'm hesitant to trust someone with my business.

Anyhow, thoguht this strategy may be of some interest to you guys. Whether you are doing it intentionally or just have a job your not happy with and want to grow it into something else a job evenn if it's low paying can be good if it leaves you with free time to either improve yourself or start up something else on the side. You get all the perks of security and insurance while working on your startup so basically get to be an entrepreneur without the risk and no insurance and going without pay.
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Working A Lazy Low Paying Job To Work On Your Hustles

It seems that we can learn an important lesson while we spend our time working on ourselves while working at a b.s. job with plenty of job time -- It teaches you the importance of motivating your future employees to actually work for you rather than just take your money & benefits. Its important to think about why your prior job had so much downtime -- obviously there was some major inefficiency somewhere -- prevent this from happening when you have your own company.
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Working A Lazy Low Paying Job To Work On Your Hustles

Didn't Einstein develop some of his theories while working a mindless job at a patent office?
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Working A Lazy Low Paying Job To Work On Your Hustles

Quote: (03-14-2014 12:49 PM)se7en Wrote:  

It seems that we can learn an important lesson while we spend our time working on ourselves while working at a b.s. job with plenty of job time -- It teaches you the importance of motivating your future employees to actually work for you rather than just take your money & benefits. Its important to think about why your prior job had so much downtime -- obviously there was some major inefficiency somewhere -- prevent this from happening when you have your own company.

Very good point you made. I suppose what I'm doing may be a bit unethical although honestly there's really not much more I could do unless it took it on myself to do some external business developement for the company although it's not part of my job requirements, I won't see any bonuses from it and there's really no opportunity for upward mobility so I really don't see any incentive to.

You do make a good point though. I know many people will argue over peoples motivations but I can only speak for myself and I'm not motivated by fake titles, certificates someone made in Microsoft Publisher, or pats on the back, I'm motivated by money.

My company has screwed over employees a few times in the past. We used to get $10 for selling a particular product, they changed it to $8 then to $2. One rule of motivation is if you give it all at the beginning and then take it away it leaves a sour taste in peoples mouth where as if you give $2 from teh start people say shit they giving me $2 a sale for nothing awesome.

Anyhow, long story short after changing the spiff they tried to make it retroactive and fuck us out of the previous two months of commissions which should have been at $8 and tried to give us $3. I'm routinely not paid for overtime or mileage because my boss is lazy and doesn't do it despite being repeatedly prompted to.

I really see no incentive here to do any more than the bare minimum. I think it's poor management from low level to mid level to high level management in my company as well as the lack of upward mobility and not respecting employees.

When I hire my first employee I will have clear expectations, reward them and keep my word to them. I will also, especially early on let people knwo people who get on board early will be rewarded and have upward mobility as the company grows.
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Working A Lazy Low Paying Job To Work On Your Hustles

You dropshipping or straight up ecommerce?
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Working A Lazy Low Paying Job To Work On Your Hustles

Quote: (03-14-2014 01:41 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

You dropshipping or straight up ecommerce?

Straight Ecommerce for the most part, although my supplier will sometimes drop ship larger orders for me so I don't deplete my inventory completely.

I'm really motivated by alot of you guys on this forum who are location independent and can move/live anywhere. Due to needing to ship things as well as regulations I need to be in the states. My supplier has offered to dropship for $5 per package. That would be fine on larger orders but lots of my stuff is smaller and that would cut into my profits more than i'd like. I suppose I could potentially live anywhere, handle customer service from anywhere and have him ship for me but I give up a lot of control of my business and qualiity control at that point plus I'd have to revamp the whole business. I have a partner as well who has a wife and kid so he's kinda stuck where he's at so probably wouldn't want to go the drop ship route as ther's no reason for him to wanna do that.
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Working A Lazy Low Paying Job To Work On Your Hustles

Quote: (03-14-2014 01:58 PM)jamaicabound Wrote:  

Quote: (03-14-2014 01:41 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

You dropshipping or straight up ecommerce?

Straight Ecommerce for the most part, although my supplier will sometimes drop ship larger orders for me so I don't deplete my inventory completely.

I'm really motivated by alot of you guys on this forum who are location independent and can move/live anywhere. Due to needing to ship things as well as regulations I need to be in the states. My supplier has offered to dropship for $5 per package. That would be fine on larger orders but lots of my stuff is smaller and that would cut into my profits more than i'd like. I suppose I could potentially live anywhere, handle customer service from anywhere and have him ship for me but I give up a lot of control of my business and qualiity control at that point plus I'd have to revamp the whole business. I have a partner as well who has a wife and kid so he's kinda stuck where he's at so probably wouldn't want to go the drop ship route as ther's no reason for him to wanna do that.

I don't know what you are selling but try moldingbox.com for a 3rd party warehouse, order shipping/fulfillment. I have clients that are happy with them and their vendors ship inventory to the warehouse from china and south america.

Why do the heathen rage and the people imagine a vain thing? Psalm 2:1 KJV
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Working A Lazy Low Paying Job To Work On Your Hustles

Quote: (03-14-2014 12:29 PM)jamaicabound Wrote:  

Well I wind up starting a business, I have plenty of timee at my day job to send out email blasts, do marketing, take orders on the phone, etc.

One caveat to add here - be very careful not to use your employer's resources for your Freedom Business, and do not work on your hustle during business hours.

Imagine you put years of your life into your new gig and it becomes successful. Do you want to run the risk that your former employer could have a claim against the intellectual property YOU created because you used their phone, laptop, subscriptions, etc? Not worth it.
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Working A Lazy Low Paying Job To Work On Your Hustles

Quote: (03-14-2014 05:41 PM)Nolecbo Wrote:  

Quote: (03-14-2014 12:29 PM)jamaicabound Wrote:  

Well I wind up starting a business, I have plenty of timee at my day job to send out email blasts, do marketing, take orders on the phone, etc.

One caveat to add here - be very careful not to use your employer's resources for your Freedom Business, and do not work on your hustle during business hours.

Imagine you put years of your life into your new gig and it becomes successful. Do you want to run the risk that your former employer could have a claim against the intellectual property YOU created because you used their phone, laptop, subscriptions, etc? Not worth it.

Very good point, I suppose I steal time even though so do my other coworkers doing homework and other things. As far as materials I use my own laptop, tether internet from my phone, have my own logos on all my envelopes, paper, etc so don't really use any of their materials. You bring up a good point though.
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Working A Lazy Low Paying Job To Work On Your Hustles

I am in the exact same job situation. I have a much lower salary than my peers even with more education. On average, I may do actual work 2hrs/day and the remainder is free time to learnlearn Portuguese/Spanish, apply to other jobs, work on businesses, etc. It also unfortunately allows me to read RVF way much more than I should as well as look at YouTube and sports all day. One would need true self discipline to excel at businesses in this type of setup. Which type of business do you guys suggest I could run in this format? I'm leaning toward exporting or freelancing.
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