[Nascimento]

The biggest benefit here might not even be the increased number of ONS.

It's the fact you're not investing into girls more than you should be. If you're constantly taking numbers that most of the time lead nowhere, that puts some stress on you emotionally because you are always hoping or thinking about the prospect of seeing that girl again.

Not settling for the number when you can go for more is probably the easiest change you can make to your night game to improve your inner game. When you decide you're not going to make too much time or worry about seeing a girl again and calculating the chance she will flake, and anything else involved, you start to value your time and yourself more.

Having said that, take it as far as you can, and if she goes along with it but doesn't go all the way, settle for the number. But I only personally take her number nowadays if I actually pulled them and didn't bang due to resistance. If I feel her attraction is strong but isn't down to be pulled after me trying and we are still in the club, I will just leave her and approach a new girl. If she resists me leaving, I will give her my number and tell her she can text me instead.

[ASOT]

Good advice. Only time I have ever got a number at night time that lead to any where was when I met a girl in the street AFTER clubbing, I was heading back to my hotel, she to the train, we talked and she was cool so I got her number and sent her a message as soon as she left (her phone was flat). As soon as she got home she must have plugged in and sent a reply asking what I was up to, it was clear what she wanted so within 10 minutes I was in a cab to her place. In hindsight I should have read her body language better and saved myself a cab fare.

Except in situations like this has anyone actually had any success with getting numbers from night game? I'd think not seeing that the excitement and openness chicks have in the night with music, dancing and alcohol to drown the hamster out, will almost always be overruled out by the hamster the following day. In general I think if a number is all you can get you should fire off a message soon after in hopes that she'll change her mind that night, or otherwise discard it.

[ASOT]

(01-31-2014 08:20 PM)CJ Wrote:  

5. Get her into my car
- I ALWAYS park at the back of parking lots, in as dark a place as possible, preferably in as low traffic an area as I can find. That way, when I get her back to my car, if things are going well, I can just whip my dick out. Time this right, and sex is guaranteed.

6. Get to a bed ASAP!
- Her place, your place, a hotel, just go go go before she starts the standard "second thoughts" routine, and you have to breakdown barriers and build comfort again.
- I used to drive a van, as a way of skipping this step. God I miss that van.

That's actually an awesome idea. The whole idea of using a van adds to the excitement factor for the girl too, I bet you killed it with that van hahaha. Kit it out with a mattress, something to cover the front windshield, some soft lighting and you've got the most prime apartment you could ever want for any club you wish to go to! Come day time it's perfect for a surf board or mountain bike

(02-01-2014 03:57 PM)Road_Less_Taken Wrote:  

Good points but you have to take into account the culture that your in, if your not in a ONS culture you are making it really difficult on yourself and missing out on a lot of opportunities because you didn't get her number.
Unless you are some type of super player in these places your only going to get the occasional ONS, its just reality. So why not get a few numbers, dont make it your mission, but hey.

Day game same day lays are impressive...where does this ever happen?

Where in this world is there a lack of ONS culture? Even in the middle east?and Muslim africa brave crusaders like Naughty Nomad are doing ONS. This is not a dig at you I'm actually wondering which place you speak of? Could it be that it's your logistics that are at fault and not the culture?

[mbare]

McQueen,

Great post. It's a brilliant way to get yourself in the right mindset, which is half the battle as we know.

It reminds me of how I lacked this mindset when living abroad, except when it was time to travel to a new country. When I knew I was only going to be in a new city for 4 days, it was full on--putting everything on the table. And it paid off pushing the interaction to its limit.

In Sicily, when first getting into game, I just accepted the notion that ONS were difficult and rare. I still hold that to be true, so I think Road_less_Taken has a point. Italian/sicilian nightlife culture (big groups, social circles, cockblocking) can impede you. But then again, I never went out with the mindset of NO numbers. Perhaps I would have had positive results for a ONS.

In the end, it worked out over there to just get the number. Isolation a day or a few days later was key, and rarely disappointed.

[WanderingSoul]

Good lesson. I hate settling for the number because that means I have to go home and jerk off.


"Professional" PUAs go out and a number or kiss is their goal because:

1. They can't get laid regularly.

and

2. The newbies who are paying them have had such little success with women, that a coach pulling down one make out and 3 useless numbers in one night is fucking amazing to them, and they see it as a huge success.