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If You Turned 20 Tomorrow...
#26

If You Turned 20 Tomorrow...

stay single
that is all
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#27

If You Turned 20 Tomorrow...

I'm 22, but this is my rough plan for the next 8 years.

- Save. Do not get into any debt
- Learn foreign language
- Travel
- Keep hitting the gym
- Read more
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#28

If You Turned 20 Tomorrow...

Nice to see the insight from all of you.

I'm about to turn 20 in a couples months and it just hits home seeing all the advice here.

Just a little about what I plan to do:
  • Keep hitting the gym.
  • Start juicing.
  • Travel (Already have a trip planned this summer)
  • Finish Uni. I'm currently pursuing an English major and yes I have heard how tough it is for those majors but really I only see myself doing that. Being an English teacher of some sort, nationally or internationally.
  • Get familiar with business, entrepreneurship, an area that also really interest me, despite being horrible in math, I see my self here if English route fails or I will try to pursue both.
  • Read, a lot.
  • Slay pussy!
In all one never knows what the future holds. I try to live the present with the best of my ability, one can simply control the present and the future will come along.
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#29

If You Turned 20 Tomorrow...

I am only 24 at the moment but if I could turn back time I would start to study something that really interests me instead of wasting 3 years studying some subject I only started because everybody told me it gets me a good and secure job. The good thing is that now, 4 years later, I study a subject, which totally interests me and I feel as if I am on the right way. Of course there is a lot to learn for me out there and I hope to get some good advice in this thread
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#30

If You Turned 20 Tomorrow...

(Inspired by this thread, and originally posted here.)

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The wise man learns from someone else’s mistakes, the smart man learns from his own, and the stupid one never learns. – Russian Proverb

I’ve had more success in life than most twenty-eight year olds. But I’ve also endured some self-inflicted setbacks. I don’t dwell on these mistakes, but I do try to learn from them. If you’re a young man trying to figure out life, maybe you can learn from them too.

Here are five mistakes I made in my early twenties, and how you can avoid making them yourself:

Mistake #1: Taking A Gap Year

Shortly after finishing school, I spent a year traveling through Southeast Asia, India and Europe. It was an incredible experience. It opened my eyes to the sort of life I wanted to live. I met generous and interesting people all over the world, friends who I hope to stay in contact with for life. I wrote a book. I became a better person.

But, I made one big mistake during my time abroad: I treated it like a “Gap Year.” I spent too much of my time partying, chasing girls, sightseeing, and dicking around.

It was a lot of fun, but I should have spent more of my time learning, writing, working, and seeking out business opportunities. I don’t regret my decision to spend a year traveling. But I should have approached that year with more focus, and with more commitment to personal growth. Instead, I treated it like a vacation.

But no twenty-something deserves a vacation. I would even say no thirty-something deserves a vacation. Weekend in Vegas? Sure. A month or two of backpacking to celebrate a major life milestone? OK. But no long-term travel for its own sake, no mini-retirements, and no “gap years” when you’re a young man – wait until you’ve earned it. Don’t become the filthy 38-year old hippie trying to bargain with the owner of a $3/night hostel.

Mistake #2: Letting Alcohol Control Me

Between the ages of seventeen and twenty-three, I drank and partied heavily several nights a week. My entire social life revolved around alcohol. I spent almost half my waking hours either drunk or hungover.

The crazy thing is that my drinking habits were only a bit above average in my peer group. I played rugby at a big college, and ran with a few hard-partying circles. As a result, my behaviour felt completely natural.

I’m not anti-alcohol. Drinking is fun, and it’s often a necessary part of building relationships with friends, girls, and clients. The health effects of somewhat-responsible drinking habits are not severe.

But when I reflect on the hours, days, and years of my life that I’ve lost, I realize that I should have drank much, much less. I should have resisted the college binge drinking culture that so many of us accept as ordinary, without even thinking about it.


Mistake #3: Having Sex With Mediocre Girls


I’ve slept a lot of women in my life. Definitely over a hundred, and maybe closer to two.

Why?

Well, sex is a lot of fun. So is The Chase, and of course, The Validation.

But among my conquests, I would guess that roughly 10% were really and truly memorable. 40% were nice to have. And fully half were not even worth the trouble. I’ve had some great experiences with some incredible women, but I’ve also had a lot of mediocre sex with a lot of mediocre girls.

How many nights did I spend time and money chasing fresh tail, when I had girls waiting for a call, who were of better quality than 90% of what was at the bar?

How many relationships with amazing girls did I ruin because my ego demanded variety?

How many casual lays did I keep in the rotation just so I could feel like a cool-guy player?

The Good-Looking Loser has a great post on Guys Who Get Laid versus Guys Who Get Validation. In my late twenties, I’m realizing that most of the pussy I chased in my youth, I chased for the validation.

Yes, I wanted to get laid. But more than that, I wanted to be the guy who got laid. I wanted the respect of the girls, friends, and complete strangers whom (I hoped) saw me as the “cool player guy,”

As a result, I over-valued variety, above and beyond what I really wanted. I got sucked into chasing Validation, instead of satisfaction, happiness, and meaning.

In addition to the Validation Trap, the life of the player is inherently risky. Pregnancies, STDs, false rape accusations, and other hazards are out there. The risks are worth it, for the quality girls. But most girls are not worth the time it takes to fuck them, let alone risking the rest of your life.

Just to be clear: The last thing I want to do is push guys away from the seduction community. All young men should be learning game, approaching girls, and working on the skills they need to sleep with attractive women.

What I am saying is this: Look inside and ask yourself if you’re chasing girls for sex, or validation. If sleeping with hundreds of girls isn’t what you truly want, don’t do it. If you value quality over quantity, go out hunting with a sniper rifle instead of a P90.

Mistake #4: Not Writing Enough

This bullet will surprise those who know me. I’ve written hundreds and thousands, maybe even millions of words, over the past decade. I’ve written blogs, books, columns, journals, and even some truly awful poetry.

But no matter how much time I’ve spent writing, I wish I’d spent more. Writing forces me to organize my thoughts. It builds mental rigour, and my habit of writing publicly in the Red Pill/Manosphere/Dark Enlightenment has introduced me to an incredibly valuable network. I’ve gotten so much help from so many people, and I’ve hopefully been able to give back some as well.

I highly recommend that all young men develop the habit of writing often. Writing a private journal is a great way to start. Once you’re comfortable with your ability to express yourself, start a blog of your own.

Mistake #5: Going To College

My college experience was better than most. I got a BComm at a mediocre school and a Master’s in Econ from a good one. I left college debt-free, after getting a free ride through undergrad. I got a great job in my field right out of school. I made a lot of lifelong friends in college, and I had an absolutely amazing time (see mistakes #2 and #3).

Still, if I could go back in time and talk to my eighteen year old self, I think I would tell him to skip the entire post-secondary education charade entirely. I suppose I got a lot out of my education, and it definitely opened up doors for me, but what about the opportunity cost? What else might I have done with those five years?

At the ripe old age of twenty-eight, and after having made a career change into a completely unrelated field, I think I would have been better off if I had skipped college entirely.

Young men, the world is full of opportunity. Not much of it can be found on the politically correct and bureaucratic diploma mills that litter the American continent. Unless you’re earning a marketable degree from a top school, skip college and go do something real with your life.

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#31

If You Turned 20 Tomorrow...

Quote: (02-04-2014 02:33 PM)Frost Wrote:  

But, I made one big mistake during my time abroad: I treated it like a “Gap Year.” I spent too much of my time partying, chasing girls, sightseeing, and dicking around.

It was a lot of fun, but I should have spent more of my time learning, writing, working, and seeking out business opportunities. I don’t regret my decision to spend a year traveling. But I should have approached that year with more focus, and with more commitment to personal growth. Instead, I treated it like a vacation.

I have similar feelings about the year I took before attending uni. It was such an amazing year that I was actually depressed to go back to the UK and start studying. I wanted to continue travelling. Then again, the experiences gained in that time are still paying off now into my adult life. The languages and general perspective I picked up are now vital to my career and gave me a massive headstart over the competition.

There's also the rationalizing our brains like to do with the past. Let's just say that we had done the opposite and worked, studied, done well in business and partook in little to no partying. I'd bet a large amount of money that we would look back and say "Why did I waste my best years chasing money instead of partying and getting laid?" I've met several guys who think that way.

While it's important to learn from the past, there is no point dwelling on regrets either. If there are lessons, apply them now. Now is all we will ever have so let's make the most of it.

All that said, here is what I'd change if I was 20 again:

1. Be more selfish
I was extremely liberal as a teen and read books by Chomsky and other socialist thinkers. While that is all well and good, it made me naive to the reality of the marketplace out there that we have to survive in. Looking back, I was just spoiled and sheltered from real life when I should have been thinking about what career to undertake to make more money.

2. Go to a prestigious university
I did well at school but chose to go to a local university, wanting to stay close to home and thinking that it was only the subject that mattered. Looking back, this was unbelievably blue pill. Of course people care! I had the grades to go to a top 5 school and went to a top 100 one instead. Foolish. Young guys, go to the very best university you can afford.

3. Lift
I was very thin through all of my youth. So thin that people would break my balls about it. I was getting laid anyway so I figured it didn't matter. This was a dumb way of looking at it. Having taken up lifting in later life, only now do I know how much I missed out on.

4. Do something entrepreneurial
Most kids have time on their hands. 20 years old is a great point to start an amazon/adsense site to make money and learn some valuable skills. I do this now but I have much less time to dedicate to these projects. Always better to start early.

5. Avoid the modern male stereotype
Nowadays, young men are encouraged to waste their talent. "Go out and drink. Don't do your homework. Be a rebel. Turn up late for class. Do all these things and you will be popular" is the message we get from films and lads mags alike. My friends and I did all of this and thought we were so cool. We still got decent grades but it was not even 10% of our potential. Meanwhile, girls are encouraged by feminists to study hard and be ambitious. See where this is going? Yep you got it. This "message" is actually social conditioning to make young men less ambitious to level the playing field for girls. Watch some older films for role models. Guys weren't clowned in the media. They were strong, ambitious leaders. You should compete to be the best in your class. The funny thing is that with even a bit of effort, you will easily exceed the performance of most girls. It might not seem cool now, but your wallet (and your dick) will thank you later.

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#32

If You Turned 20 Tomorrow...

Asian girls

There were so many of them running around Southampton University and no one was hitting on them. Many Brits don't like them and see all of them as geeky.

I used to laugh at my two friends for banging Chinese girls. Now I know. Oh, now I know

I could have had a lot of fun with that at University. But ah well, I discovered them when I was 21 so it's hardly a big problem [Image: lol.gif]
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#33

If You Turned 20 Tomorrow...

Quote: (02-04-2014 02:33 PM)Frost Wrote:  

Mistake #2: Letting Alcohol Control Me

Between the ages of seventeen and twenty-three, I drank and partied heavily several nights a week. My entire social life revolved around alcohol. I spent almost half my waking hours either drunk or hungover.

The crazy thing is that my drinking habits were only a bit above average in my peer group. I played rugby at a big college, and ran with a few hard-partying circles. As a result, my behaviour felt completely natural.

I’m not anti-alcohol. Drinking is fun, and it’s often a necessary part of building relationships with friends, girls, and clients. The health effects of somewhat-responsible drinking habits are not severe.

But when I reflect on the hours, days, and years of my life that I’ve lost, I realize that I should have drank much, much less. I should have resisted the college binge drinking culture that so many of us accept as ordinary, without even thinking about it.

Agreed. If you go to a party college its ridiculous the amount people drink. A weekend of hard drinking is cool every month or two, but getting drunk every single weekend, smoking tons of weed, etc. is a bad idea.
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#34

If You Turned 20 Tomorrow...

Currently 30. Running a few business of my own, own a portfolio of stocks and just stepping into property. Solid cash flow for one living locally/ travel for 1 month out of the year but not solid enough to travel indefinitely.

When I look at a chance to go back to my 20s, I would not change any aspect of my life except for starting earlier to increase my bankroll.

As soon as you hit the minimum age to open a stock broking account, DO IT. Get into index funds as early as you can and Dollar Cost Average. Whatever amount that you can save, put HALF of that amount into index stocks and the other in a cash yielding account. If you are 20 years old, chances are you will see 1 or 2 market crashes in the next 10-15 years and that cash pile you built up will serve you VERY well. Then learn about investing, read the books, feel the pain and pleasure of your portfolio fluctuations, get over it, build it up some more, feel more pain and pleasure, till the point that you are mechanical and emotionless about the fluctuations. Then keep doing what you do.

Learn to use Excel to track your financials. Document and plan your spending, including your investments. This gives you a good picture of yourself and where your money / energy is flowing to.

Start a business. Having met too many youngsters who have no clue or no motivation to learn. I have seen those who do (with a proper mentor) go quantum leaps ahead of their peers at such young ages. Tertiary education is important but leave that until the time when you need it, because the best (more profitable) things in life are free and don't require you to get into debt to make a profit.

Remind myself:

"If it's too good to be true, it probably is fake."

Don't trust myself when I say: "This time it's different."

I sincerely hope someone will become a baller someday reading this... Well.. Not a HUGE baller, but enough to be financially independent by age 29.
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#35

If You Turned 20 Tomorrow...

That is pretty much my age and I do that big mistake..

I do get success and I gotta work hard cause here it's not exactly easy, but you're right , I know it and I'm just in denial.

Quote: (01-26-2014 01:46 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

I would have read a lot more. I also would have worked a lot harder. I would also find someone I wanted to become by that age and use them as a mentor/for guidance.

20 years old you should be high strung like a piano string. Use that energy, all of it, to get smarter, make more money and befriend elite people. Don't waste your energy trying to get laid, that should be a 5% time commitment at most, put up the big blocks first. 1) health,2) money. Girls are always going to be in the area.

"Christian love bears evil, but it does not tolerate it. It does penance for the sins of others, but it is not broadminded about sin. Real love involves real hatred: whoever has lost the power of moral indignation and the urge to drive the sellers from temples has also lost a living, fervent love of Truth."

- Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen
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#36

If You Turned 20 Tomorrow...

My biggest fear is that I'll be old one day and regret not having done more with my life. It reminds me of the Pink Floyd song "Time."

"You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun"

The most important thing is to not waste time.

What some might consider a waste of time others might not, but here are some of the things I try to cut out of my life.

Common time wasters:
Video games, t.v, porn, internet, drugs, alcohol, ugly chicks, lame friends, crappy jobs, waking up late for no reason,crappy schools, boring parties. If you aren't sure if something is a waste, ask yourself this. "Will I look back at this when I'm 90 and be glad I did it?"

Worthwhile activities:

Learning skills for your career, going to your job and making money, improving your reputation, learning or improving almost any skill, sex and love with beautiful, feminine, intelligent women (woman?), hanging out with good friends, truly memorable and enjoyable experiences like skiing or traveling through Eastern Europe, building and maintaining a strong and healthy body, improving your style, partying on the yacht you own, being the highest status man in a social setting, hiking through the mountains, finding and achieving a mission.

My number one struggle every day is trying to more things that matter. I don't have the money, skills, or status to do truly enjoyable things with my free time yet, so I'm focusing on improvement. My body and unconscious mind are constantly willing me to the couch, while I have to push myself to keep improving and working towards my goals.
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#37

If You Turned 20 Tomorrow...

If I turned 20 tomorrow I would keep the following two things in the front of my mind:

1. The path promoted in college is really a brainwashing into a wack path that you don't have to follow.

In hindsight I don't completely regret college because I didn't incur any debt and attended a big state school. While college isn't the only way to get out of one's provincial bubble, I'm thankful to have met a lot of people from a variety of different backgrounds.

2. Put down the bong. My decision to blaze early and often cost me no small amount of opportunities and, as we all know, you can't get back time. I knew something was foul about society's path and chose to use the herb as an escape instead of proactively creating my own. I proceeded to spend a lot of my post-graduation 20's as a delusional, slightly overweight, pussy scrap-getting (read: begging), stoner "intellectual" when I should've been building myself into a better man.

When you turn 20 you it's hard to envision time catching up with you and you think you can start tomorrow, next year, or maybe just coast indefinitely and never face the consequences. Being surrounded by dopey "work hard, play hard" people reinforces the attitude.

No doubt I still have a lot of work to do, but props to Danger and Play and Wallstplayboys for opening my eyes.
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