[Laner]

Not sure what is going to happen with this, but it will not be taken lightly.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/vladimir-pu...-1.2478303

I feel that Russia may be right place, at the right time for all the anger and butthurt to come together for climax.

[Ubietza]

An aside, but you know you have good game when you have bishes self-detonating themselves after Russian state security have offed you. Dagestani bishes are willing to off themselves and take many to the grave with them for their Dagestani men being murdered. Imagine a western femicunt doing something like that. Maybe in some alternative universe.

[Ubietza]

By the way, there were two separate self-detonations in Volgograd (ex Stalingrad) within 24 hours of each other. Both were Dagestani women, apparently.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(12-30-2013 04:54 AM)Ubietza Wrote:  

An aside, but you know you have good game when you have bishes self-detonating themselves after Russian state security have offed you. Dagestani bishes are willing to off themselves and take many to the grave with them for their Dagestani men being murdered. Imagine a western femicunt doing something like that. Maybe in some alternative universe.

Quite a morbid observation, but ultimately...

[Ubietza]

(12-30-2013 07:44 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 04:54 AM)Ubietza Wrote:  

An aside, but you know you have good game when you have bishes self-detonating themselves after Russian state security have offed you. Dagestani bishes are willing to off themselves and take many to the grave with them for their Dagestani men being murdered. Imagine a western femicunt doing something like that. Maybe in some alternative universe.

Quite a morbid observation, but ultimately...

I'm always for the truth despite the fact it might be ugly/morbid. I mean, in the entire Muslim world, the only female self-detonators I have heard of were in occupied Palestine against Jews and that was a form of resistance -- a last blow -- to the interlopers. These bishes are exacting revenge on the people that they see responsible for their men being here no more. I love me some Russian bishes, and Russians in general, but I have love for the crazy tribes of the Caucasus like the Chechens/Dagestanis, too. Unfortunately, Russian messianism has generally won in the past few hundred years. Some REAL beauties in Mahachkala and Grozny, btw.

[Flint]

(12-30-2013 12:46 PM)Ubietza Wrote:  

I'm always for the truth despite the fact it might be ugly/morbid. I mean, in the entire Muslim world, the only female self-detonators I have heard of were in occupied Palestine against Jews and that was a form of resistance -- a last blow -- to the interlopers. These bishes are exacting revenge on the people that they see responsible for their men being here no more. I love me some Russian bishes, and Russians in general, but I have love for the crazy tribes of the Caucasus like the Chechens/Dagestanis, too. Unfortunately, Russian messianism has generally won in the past few hundred years. Some REAL beauties in Mahachkala and Grozny, btw.

No.

This is not the truth, it's capitulation of reason in the face of barbarism. Russia has suffered way more from Islamist terrorism than any Western nation. Say bullshit like this to a Russian and you would get beat up immediately, and rightly so. Religious fuck-wits who blow themselves up and slaughter innocent people in order to fight for the establishment of an Islamic dictatorship deserve no sympathy from any decent person. I don't give a flying fuck if these broads are by our definition anti-feminist or devoted to their men in a traditional sense. Men who live a lifestyle promoted like here on the forum would get killed by those Islamists without a batting eye.

Critique of Western mainstream culture and feminism should not lead men to even remotely embrace or display understanding for ideologies and cultures that are objectively anti-freedom and backwards to the max.

Enlightenment and reason must prevail.

[Tail Gunner]

(12-30-2013 03:48 PM)Flint Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 12:46 PM)Ubietza Wrote:  

I'm always for the truth despite the fact it might be ugly/morbid. I mean, in the entire Muslim world, the only female self-detonators I have heard of were in occupied Palestine against Jews and that was a form of resistance -- a last blow -- to the interlopers. These bishes are exacting revenge on the people that they see responsible for their men being here no more. I love me some Russian bishes, and Russians in general, but I have love for the crazy tribes of the Caucasus like the Chechens/Dagestanis, too. Unfortunately, Russian messianism has generally won in the past few hundred years. Some REAL beauties in Mahachkala and Grozny, btw.

No.

This is not the truth, it's capitulation of reason in the face of barbarism. Russia has suffered way more from Islamist terrorism than any Western nation. Say bullshit like this to a Russian and you would get beat up immediately, and rightly so. Religious fuck-wits who blow themselves up and slaughter innocent people in order to fight for the establishment of an Islamic dictatorship deserve no sympathy from any decent person. I don't give a flying fuck if these broads are by our definition anti-feminist or devoted to their men in a traditional sense. Men who live a lifestyle promoted like here on the forum would get killed by those Islamists without a batting eye.

Critique of Western mainstream culture and feminism should not lead men to even remotely embrace or display understanding for ideologies and cultures that are objectively anti-freedom and backwards to the max.

Enlightment and reason must prevail.

I agree with your analysis of Islam. But the Russians are not too different, having terrorized eastern Europe for hundreds of years -- even more so after the communist revolution. It is like watching a fight between two rabid dogs.

[MrXY]

Was talking to a Russian acquaintance in a bar Sat and he brought up the Olympics and how he was expecting Islamic terrorism and how much he hates Muslims.

[Aliblahba]

(12-30-2013 04:11 AM)Laner Wrote:  

I feel that Russia may be right place, at the right time for all the anger and butthurt to come together for climax.

Russia just needs to get a Muslim leader and none of these attacks would happen. Just look at the U.S.

[Virtus]

1840 . Lermontov. "Cossack's Lulliby"

http://www.stihi-rus.ru/1/Lermontov/58.htm

".....Flowing over rocks Terek
Splashing muddy shaft;
Angry Chechen crawls ashore
Sharpening his dagger;
But your father is an old warrior
Hardened in battle:
Sleep, baby, be calm"

[jimukr104]

A lot of the Muslim Jihardists have rallied to the side of Checnya, but to be truthful the Chechnya are NOT the suicide bomber type ..they have real issues with Russia but i thought they made peace??
Maybe PUtin did this AGAIN.

[Akula]

(12-30-2013 06:33 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  

A lot of the Muslim Jihardists have rallied to the side of Checnya, but to be truthful the Chechnya are NOT the suicide bomber type ..they have real issues with Russia but i thought they made peace??
Maybe PUtin did this AGAIN.

The Saudi Wahabbis promote extremist Islam throughout the world and have done so for many years now - particularly in Chechnya and Dagestan. That's likely the root of the issue. It's only getting worse as money continues to flow into these Arab states and it comes back to us a blowback while their corrupt leaders try to placate their masses (who, in the case of Saudi Arabia, want the House of Saud OUT) with more placating to hardcore Islam.

Russia won't give up this part of the 'Federation' lightly. The Caspian Sea has tons of oil and that's a big reason that these Islamic 'republics' are still part of Russia. Take a look at the map and you'll see what I mean.

If you lived in Russia you'd know just how brutal these Chechen, Dagestanis and others from the Caucuses can really be. They are tougher than the Russians and have an 'omertà' code with their families too. Would not f*ck with any of them, unless you want to get into a knife-fight or get jumped by 5-6 guys who have no qualms in slitting your throat. In any case, I wish the press/west would stop with any sort of 'victimology of the people from the Caucuses really - they are brutish aggressors and always have been. And Russia historically got way worse than it doled out. Hell the Mongols raped, pillaged and plundered for hundreds of years all the way through modern-day Russia to Hungary.

[TripleG]

(12-30-2013 07:36 PM)Akula Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 06:33 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  

A lot of the Muslim Jihardists have rallied to the side of Checnya, but to be truthful the Chechnya are NOT the suicide bomber type ..they have real issues with Russia but i thought they made peace??
Maybe PUtin did this AGAIN.

The Saudi Wahabbis promote extremist Islam throughout the world and have done so for many years now - particularly in Chechnya and Dagestan. That's likely the root of the issue. It's only getting worse as money continues to flow into these Arab states and it comes back to us a blowback while their corrupt leaders try to placate their masses (who, in the case of Saudi Arabia, want the House of Saud OUT) with more placating to hardcore Islam.

Russia won't give up this part of the 'Federation' lightly. The Caspian Sea has tons of oil and that's a big reason that these Islamic 'republics' are still part of Russia. Take a look at the map and you'll see what I mean.

If you lived in Russia you'd know just how brutal these Chechen, Dagestanis and others from the Caucuses can really be. They are tougher than the Russians and have an 'omertà' code with their families too. Would not f*ck with any of them, unless you want to get into a knife-fight or get jumped by 5-6 guys who have no qualms in slitting your throat. In any case, I wish the press/west would stop with any sort of 'victimology of the people from the Caucuses really - they are brutish aggressors and always have been. And Russia historically got way worse than it doled out. Hell the Mongols raped, pillaged and plundered for hundreds of years all the way through modern-day Russia to Hungary.

Akula is right. Let us also not forget that the Dagistani's and Chechens are one of the fastest growing minorities in Russia and reproduce like jack-rabbits. When you have an average of 5 kids and from an early age they are already taught about honor killings and revenge it is only a matter of time before they put that into action. Of course, vast majority of these Muslims are just and fair people but the few rotten apples tend to be of the worst kind! Btw, you guys need to read
Kavkazcenter.com a Muslim leaning online newspaper which does a great job on reporting the news and not holding anything bad. The situation is much worse there right now than any stupid American (CNN) or British (BBC) media would make you believe. Volgograd was used as a training ground to see if these types of attacks would work on Sochi.

Of course, since we are all "love tourists" on these forums here I gotta ask an important question which I'm sure others are wandering about, how are the gaming opportunities in Volgograd (Stalingrad)....a 2nd tier city of 1 million people, rarely visited by westerners should be ripe for the more adventurous RF members? Has anyone been there?

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(12-30-2013 03:48 PM)Flint Wrote:  

(12-30-2013 12:46 PM)Ubietza Wrote:  

I'm always for the truth despite the fact it might be ugly/morbid. I mean, in the entire Muslim world, the only female self-detonators I have heard of were in occupied Palestine against Jews and that was a form of resistance -- a last blow -- to the interlopers. These bishes are exacting revenge on the people that they see responsible for their men being here no more. I love me some Russian bishes, and Russians in general, but I have love for the crazy tribes of the Caucasus like the Chechens/Dagestanis, too. Unfortunately, Russian messianism has generally won in the past few hundred years. Some REAL beauties in Mahachkala and Grozny, btw.

No.

This is not the truth, it's capitulation of reason in the face of barbarism. Russia has suffered way more from Islamist terrorism than any Western nation. Say bullshit like this to a Russian and you would get beat up immediately, and rightly so. Religious fuck-wits who blow themselves up and slaughter innocent people in order to fight for the establishment of an Islamic dictatorship deserve no sympathy from any decent person. I don't give a flying fuck if these broads are by our definition anti-feminist or devoted to their men in a traditional sense. Men who live a lifestyle promoted like here on the forum would get killed by those Islamists without a batting eye.

Critique of Western mainstream culture and feminism should not lead men to even remotely embrace or display understanding for ideologies and cultures that are objectively anti-freedom and backwards to the max.

Enlightenment and reason must prevail.

Oh I agree with you 100%, but I don't think he's calling for the fall of Russia and its replacement by the Chechen Islamic State militants. He's just pointing out they're the only ones in the world whose women love them fanatically enough to blow themselves up for them.

[Ubietza]

HandsomeCreepyEel is correct. Mainly just pointing that fact out. I like the Russians, but at the same time, I'm critical of them. I myself come from a minor nation, which had its moment of glory in the early Middle Ages, so I naturally empathize with minority nations within the Russian Federation. They essentially have Russia's boot on their throat, but with the demographic changes, who knows what we'll have there in two hundred years. Truth be told, I'd convert to Islam in order to secure a harem of Dagestani bishes. Good, healthy stock in those people. For such a small nation, they have some beasts in the UFC, too.

[Chaos]

I totally agree with Akula. The most badass people in Russia come from the Caucasus and if it wasn't for the natural resources Russia had probably built a new iron curtain around the Caucasus a long time ago.

One thing I'm wondering about is if it's clever or not to go out in media and say it's done by Dagestani people. Why not say that it was simply done by a 26 year old Russian woman?
I think this will for sure make some bad blood and of course some innocent Dagestanis will be victims of some hate crimes. In Sweden for example a lot of the major crimes are done by immigrants and they always only say " a Swedish 30 year old man killed two cops" but when you see the name you'll see that the guy is from the Balkans or Iraq or the middle east but media never points out this.

I'm not saying what's right or wrong, I'm just saying.
However, I visited parts of Northern and Southern Causcasus a few months ago and the area is just strangly fashinating. Absolutley crazy. Can't wait to go back.

[BigDave]

(01-01-2014 08:49 AM)Chaos Wrote:  

One thing I'm wondering about is if it's clever or not to go out in media and say it's done by Dagestani people. Why not say that it was simply done by a 26 year old Russian woman?

The answer is simply that Russian is both a nationality and ethnicity in English. Russians have two words for this, one means Russian ethnically and the other means Russian in terms of government. No Russian would ever refer to those women as "Russians."

Americans have a very unusual concept of nationality. In most of Europe ethnicity and nationality go hand in hand.

[Chaos]

(01-01-2014 02:44 PM)BigDave Wrote:  

(01-01-2014 08:49 AM)Chaos Wrote:  

One thing I'm wondering about is if it's clever or not to go out in media and say it's done by Dagestani people. Why not say that it was simply done by a 26 year old Russian woman?

The answer is simply that Russian is both a nationality and ethnicity in English. Russians have two words for this, one means Russian ethnically and the other means Russian in terms of government. No Russian would ever refer to those women as "Russians."

Americans have a very unusual concept of nationality. In most of Europe ethnicity and nationality go hand in hand.

Yess, I get your point,but what I mean is that in other countries people would refer these Dagestanis as Russians because their passports are Russian.

If a Turk in Germany would do the same the German media would definitely not write that he's Turkish because he got a German passport. Even if he's ethnically Turkish. And no German would ever refer those as "Germans"

I think they are doing this because of protecting the minorities.
I mean, in the longer run... Is it better for Russian media to point out that these suicide bombers were Dagestanis or just simply refer to them as "Russians".

I think innocent people will get their ass kicked because of this.

Would American media make a difference of blacks,lations,whites,alabama rednecks, native indians, iraqi's or chinese if the same thing happened there?

[DjembaDjemba]

^^ Yes they would. And they do constantly.

These islamic bombing shenanigans have become an unfortunate global phenomenon, (Nigeria, Philippines, Indonesia, UK, etc). But that being kept in mind, Russia wants to keep these people under the Russian government control, therefore in international terms they are Russians. When a Degestani travels to Brazil, he's entering with a Russian passport. He goes as a Russian. Russians refer to them as 'minorities', sure, but their president is still Putin and their parliament is still the Duma.

Putin comes out with nationalistic speeches saying "Russia does not need minorities, minorities need Russia", yet Russian troops have died to keep these minorities in the Russian Federation. The cognitive dissonance this must create is staggering.

Nevertheless, the Sochi Olympics will be a great success. Russia will run a tight ship on security. Russia has many restrictions of movement internally and has a pretty solid security apparatus for such a vast, and chaotic country.

If I had they money to burn I'd certainly still check out the Olympics there, and there will be many sexy European girls visiting.

[Hencredible Casanova]

Not sure how many of you guys are familiar with the Caspian Report channel on YouTube but the guy who does them has the most concise and enlightening red pill analysis on most issues regarding international developments. I highly recommend you peruse some of the videos in his collection here.

He has a couple that speak directly and indirectly to the situation in Russia regarding Muslim extremists.