[VincentVinturi]

What would you have done?

Personally, I think this is more a reflection of what our culture has sunk to: sticking your nose in other people's business and parading it around like it's virtuous or something.

Two guys have a beef? None of my business. What ever happened to fighting your own battles, reaping what you sow, etc, etc...?

[Beyond Borders]

My reaction.

The women responded faster and more aggressively than the men.

And these dweebs wonder why they don't get any pussy.

That said, none of the guys that walked by looked like they'd ever been in a fight in their lives. lol I'm sure if some athletes or half-sized guys rolled by instead of the mini-me's it would have been a different story.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I don't know, dude. Most bullying is unprovoked, and even if it were not there would still be exceptions where one should act.

Imagine a guy whom you've never seen before that comes up to you in the middle in the street, punches you in the face and starts manhandling you. Shouldn't someone try to help you, or at least want to help you (if they judge that they have no chance of making a difference and would just get hurt too)? It would be crazy for a passerby to just say "oh, VV is obviously reaping what he's sown, let it be" and keep on walking?

There were actual cases like this in my town because the state had no legal basis on which to incarcerate an obviously disturbed (and aggressive) person. They'd just arrest him, declare him insane and thus not responsible, and then release him from the clinic after a few days.

I don't think we should just stand by and let those things happen because some people are parasites who make a living out of victimhood. We should acknowledge that and punish fake victims, but caring for other people is a natural drive for a reason. You shouldn't make a mockery of it.

[VincentVinturi]

@HCE those are good points man, I guess I didn't really think it through.

I'd have to agree that if it were a seriously violent beatdown it might be justifiable to step in.

But not in a situation like in the video where there's no real violence happening.

[Beyond Borders]

Completely agreed HCE! I can't stand seeing anybody get victimized.

[pitt]

I am not sure what I would do if I saw this (because he may have a good reason to beat him up) but I have seen similar situations in real life and I have noticed that almost everybody just don't give a fuck.

I have seen one indian old lady with her daughter getting bullied by this crazy man on the train. The train was packed and I couldn't believe that nobody was saying shit. This guy was getting more and more aggressive..i thought fuck it, let met step in...soon as I stepped in and told him to stop with that bullshit, he got scared and left the train.

In the second case, this black guy was robbing this small white boy (probably 10 yrs old) and the white boy was begging him to give him his phone back..I was just looking at the black guy and thinking..''why are you robbing this little boy'' (I looked like I wanted to say something but I wasnt sure if I should say it)..he misinterpreted it with being scaried and he told me ''what?''..big mistake..i step in (he was bigger than me but younger)..''what do you mean what''? he tells me ''low it, low it''..ok give him his phone back..I jumped on the train with the kid..the kid didnt even tell me thank you...I thought, what an ungrateful cunt..but then again he was a kid, so I understood it.

[Enigma]

The self-righteous tone of this video is so gay.

This guy's older videos were him going up to random betas and stealing their food or gym equipment. Months later he's Gandhi.

[JohnKreese]

(12-06-2013 05:20 AM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

What would you have done?

I'm pretty sure that I would have started kicking the shit out of the bully and when he started to point out that we were on camera and I was doing a "great job!" to fight against bullying....I wouldn't have stopped.

[WanderingSoul]

I probably would have told the kid to stop being a fucking pussy and stand up for himself. If he started to fight back, I'd make sure the other guy didn't end up whooping his ass, but I'd let the kid get his hands dirty and try to fight back so he felt like a man.

Afterwards I'd take his number and drag his ass down to the local BJJ or boxing gym.

[Roosh]

Does this really happen on college campuses though? "I need you to do this paper for my financial aid."

I understand anti-bullying efforts, but the problem with it is that it will mean increased control and monitoring of people's behavior, and an increased role in the government or authorities to pry into relationships. There are clear cut cases which should be prevented, but the line gets blurred when girls in a bar, for instance, make up stories against men to get ejected because of a bully witch hunt culture.

Rape culture hysteria is a good example. Men are the bullies who must be stopped, but the "victims" begin to shame non-bullies to completely control male behavior. When standard playground bullying ends, they will simply launch a crusade against bullying that hurts your feelings. Then bullying against "objectification," against being "offensive," and so on. When no more bullies are to be found, they'll just make up new ones.

[The Lizard of Oz]

(12-06-2013 09:29 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Does this really happen on college campuses though? "I need you to do this paper for my financial aid."

Of course not. This is incredible bullshit.

Part of the reason people look like they don't know what the fuck to do is because these setups are so strained and artificial. Everyone senses that there is something wrong.

I fucking hate these little Year Zero morality plays. All the jackasses involved should be seriously "bullied" out of their white-knighting sleaze and idiocy.

[MHaes]

Dupe.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-30731.html

[runsonmagic]

(12-06-2013 09:29 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Does this really happen on college campuses though? "I need you to do this paper for my financial aid."

I understand anti-bullying efforts, but the problem with it is that it will mean increased control and monitoring of people's behavior, and an increased role in the government or authorities to pry into relationships. There are clear cut cases which should be prevented, but the line gets blurred when girls in a bar, for example, make up stories against men to get ejected because of a bully witch hunt culture.

Rape culture hysteria is a good example. Men are the bullies who must be stopped, but the "victims" begin to shame non-bullies to completely control male behavior. When standard playground bullying ends, they will simply launch a crusade against bullying that hurts your feelings. Then bullying against "objectification," against being "offensive," and so on. When no more bullies are to be found, they'll just make up new ones.

This sounds like the south park bullying episode where they sing "let's make bullying kill itself" and basically try to stop bullying by bullying it.

[Red Dog]

I used to be someone who would help smash a bully if I saw this before but not anymore.

Unless it's someone I know I really couldn't give a shit about who gets smashed up.

Bullying is a natural part of life and I believe in just letting it be to a certain extent.

Besides, I'm sure most people on this board have bullied at least once in their life, even if not physically.


Edit: To me this is synonymous with the whole "you're rich, which means you should share your wealth" BS.

[MrXY]

I would have pulled out my phone and videoed it while yelling " WoooorrrllllStahhhhhhh!!!!

With the phone in portrait mode of course