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German paysex
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German paysex

Paysex-wise, Germany has a lot to offer. You'll find the usual sections of the market, street prostitution, hobby hookers, regular whorehouses, escort services...and one specialty I didn't come across in other western european countries to that extent: Sauna clubs.

On a personal note I don't mind paying for sex at all. But, as for most members in this board I guess, it's always possible to get laid without paying, so there'd better be some incentive to put down my hard earned money for. Also, you can get girls way cheaper in eastern europe, latin america or SEA. So why bother with German paid sex?

Street prostitution is something you DON'T want to mess around with in Germany, except if you're a collector of nasty STD's. Most of these 20-30 € girls are "on the needle" as we say, and if this is not disturbing enough for you your "business" will mostly take place below some scenic German Autobahn-bridges or inner city highways. Regular whorehouses, highest density is in Frankfurt, Cologne and Hamburg, are mostly run-down 6-8 story buildings built in post-WWII-bombing 50's-60's "modern" Bauhaus concrete-design. As a rule of thumb, the elevator is going to be out of order, and if it's not it'll smell either of vomit or piss. If you're lucky: both. They are called "Laufhäuser" for a reason (very rough translation: walking houses). You spend most of your time half drunk going up and down, in and out to the next building and back, to find the chick you're into. Including the sex it's actually a legit workout for your calfs. On every etage you'll have 4-8 rooms where the girls conduct their affairs. You'll find girls from all over the world, but they are working hard for their money meaning you're definitely not the first guy this night. Especially, if a football game from the local club was on (Hertha Berlin, St. Pauli / HSV Hamburg or Eintracht Frankfurt...Go Eintracht!) all the family guys wearing their club scarfs are going to the whorehouses after a couple of beers either for celebrating or for consolation. If you want to check these places out, which I'd also advise you to skip, go around 9pm-10pm when the shift starts so at least the surroundings and the girls are "fresh". I only did this once when I had a very special night in Frankfurt and a spanish girl with sparkling green eyes talked me into it at 5am. No regrets from my side.

So far, so sad. Germany legalized prostitution under the Schröder-administration in 2001. The law was supposed to keep the pimps in check, decriminalize the ladies and give them access to government welfare and proper health insurance. Opinions on the outcome of the law are discordant. On the one hand, most girls who live this life as a matter of choice are very content about the outcome, paying taxes and receiving health care and benefits in turn helped them escape the shady corner of society. These are mostly German girls and women though. On the other hand, human trafficking is at large and people say Germany is the hub for these scumbags who exploit and abuse women from all over the world and deploy them all over western europe. I don't want to wag my finger at anyone here, again, to each his own, but I personally can not and don't want to support organized crime with my money. It's one thing having a solid and well-founded contempt for women, but it's another to enable violent abuse. But now comes the interesting part. Because of this law, it became possible to create working environments for paid sex without being considered a pimp. This, in turn, lead to the creation and blossoming of the German Sauna clubs, also known as FKK clubs. FKK means "Freie Körper Kultur", which would roughly translate to free body culture. Basically skinny-dipping. It's a very east-German thing, one has to remember that those poor saps growing up on the wrong side of the iron curtain were mostly not allowed to vacation abroad at all, even a permit to go to Bulgaria or Hungary took forever to go through. So they made the best of the situation and just got butt naked and hung around at the baltic sea or at the north east where there is an abundance of lakes. On a side note, whoever is into nature and pristine beauty, the "Mecklenburgische Seenplatte" (don't worry, even for Germans this is an awkward word) is very a beautiful area to explore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecklenburg_Lake_District The girls there are friendly, speak decent english, have a warm dialect and are not used to having foreigners around so you can go crazy as shit up there. Fly to Berlin or Hamburg and travel by bus and go couchsurfing or check out "Fremdenzimmer" which are old-skool rooms for traveling salesmen or craftsmen away from home. You'll get a hearty breakfast and see rural Germany at it's best.

Back to the sauna clubs. Let's get philosophical for a second. If you'd be oblivious about money and future, how would you imagine the perfect place? For me, I'm a simple guy, it'll be hanging around skinny dipping in a jacuzzi with my best friends, sipping some beer, talking shit and naked smiling ladies walking around eager to get you laid. ( https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3605555456/hEA896DAD/ ). And that's what you get in a German sauna club. Here is a map of most of the clubs: http://www.fkk24.de/clubs.php . There are more, chances are high you'll find something close to where you live or want to travel to. Usually the clubs are crowded half/half, first half is mostly older German dudes, businessmen or family guys who want their special day off. Second half is turkish or russian dudes, since paid sex is more embedded in their culture. Fun fact: As much rivalry or beef there might be outside, you'll never find a more peaceful harmony between the ethnics than in these clubs. Everyone is laughing, buying drinks and just having a good time. These places are meticulously kept clean, again the owners of these clubs charge a cover fee for the guests AND the hookers and sometimes provide housing for them, that's what they make their money off. They have an interest in you as a customer to feel comfortable and well catered to. Mostly there is a nice buffet, fresh fruits and an abundance of spa and saunas. Two things which will seperate you from amateurs: First, bring your bathrobe. For these special occasions I own a pimp scarlet bathrobe I bought for 1€ at Ebay and have my nickname stitched in by a friendly Afghan tailor for 20 bucks. The betas walk around with the fresh towels provided as a wrap-around. Clean flipflops are always provided. Second, go during the week. At the weekends, all kinds of visitors and club/bar/restaurant owners come in for relaxing. It's about the ratio, most girls either live on the premises or in proximity, so all week long you'll have the same amount of girls but with a varying amount of customers. There are lots of German forums only concerned with the clubs and the ladies working there, including data sheets, recommendations and do's and don'ts. Example: http://www.lusthaus.cc/fkk/ Since most guys here don't speak German, just type in "FKK club" into google and use Google Chrome for machine translation. This is neither rocket science nor deep philosophy, Chrome will do the job just fine.

All in all these places are not about the sex so much, at least not for guys who frequent this board. It's about having the greatest time with your bro's, enjoying yourself and just living it up. My favorite place on earth, which I'm not by any ways affiliated with, is here: http://www.fkk-world.de/?language=en . I was born about 20km away. I'm not even close to being as well-traveled as the regulars here, however I know Europe inside out. Gießen, a city in Hessen, central Germany, is ugly as fuck. It used to be a hub for military production and ammunition back in WWII and got completely leveled by the brits back in the days. Not that it wouldn't have been a shithole before, but it certainly didn't make it any better. Gamewise it's an interesting city for one day or two, it has the highest percentage of students in all of germany. Out of the 60.000 people living there 20.000 are students. You can couchsurf there with a nice girl or get yourself a really cheap hotel room. If you want to hang out there I can message one or two friends of mine to take you out. Beware: whatever you think, they can drink more than you. Unlike other cities in Germany, there is no set fare on cab rides, which means you get a so-called Minicar (+49 (0) 64133001, they speak english) which will take you to the FKK World for 10 Euro. It's a 10 kilometer ride, about 15 minutes.

This place is special, that's why I want to share it with people who'll appreciate. Regarding the history of the place, it used to be the estate of a local business guy who owns a big company for office furniture. When he left his wife for a younger lady and basically fled to brazil, the local Hells Angels Chapter bought it, added some surrounding land, pimped it up a little and got their license. Germans in general are very laid back, straightforward and friendly people, but just don't make an ass out of yourself in a Hell's Angels Club. What seperates this place from other sauna clubs I've been to are a couple of benefits. I'll try include them into a typical day spent there.

The club opens as early as 11am. Since we are professionals, we are already scratching at the door. You enter the place, get greeted by a nice lady who'll hand out your towel and flipflops after asking for your shoesize. You can get fresh towels anytime. You want to go Monday til Wednesday. There is a special called 2 for 3, 2 guys pay the 65€ cover fee and three get in. If you share, that means 43€ per person. Sounds a lot, but keep reading. There's a fruit bowl and you grab a fresh apple, hit the ATM to prepare yourself with some cash. It is so clean you could basically eat from the floor. First you take a shower, dry off and grab your bathrobe. You store all your personal stuff in your locker, including your wallet. No worries, it's 100% safe. You enter the main area, there's a big round bar where the girls hang out, the usual hiphop or house top40 playing, some separees if you want to chill with a lady, an extra room with a porn cinema if you're into kinky stuff. The next room sports the buffet. Solid food, soups, vegetarian food, dessert, some hot sauces, whatever you crave. Don't eat too much, you can come back as often as you want and you don't want to sit stuffed in a jaccuzzi or sauna. It's all included. There are also some gambling machines, Vegas Style. Upstairs you can smoke cigarettes, if you want to hit a joint you need to go outside and wander a little. You go downstairs to the wellness section, some screens on the way showing porn which after a while you don't even realize anymore. Girls pass you, smile at you, some approach you. If you like her and you want to get into it right away, she'll take you to a room. A normal suck-n-fuck is 50 bucks, everything extra is 50 bucks also. After that you'll walk with her to your locker, give her the money and a kiss on her cheek, if she did a good job...hit her up later. Back downstairs you'll hang your bathrobe up the hook, refresh in the pool and then go hit the jacuzzi with your two buddies. Sometimes some fun dude will join, especially the German-turkish guys are always up for a nice story and jokes. You just keep bubbling, the ladies already making fun of you for bumming around so much. The heat and humidity gets you thirsty after a while, so you go to the bar. The second bar downstairs is waaay more laidback, wooden and oldskool. On the screen, Football is on. You can get all kinds of soft drinks for free. Wine is extra, so is champagne and all hard liquor. Now comes the most important part. Forgive my German nature, but just typing it down is getting my pants wet. There is fucking FREE BEER! What I'm basically telling you is, there is a place in the world, where you can hang out with your two (or more) best buddies, pay 42 Euro for hanging out from 11am to 4am with as much food, spa and beer as you want! During the course of the day I mostly eat 4-5 small meals and have at least 10-15 small beers (0,33L). Poosy Paradise! It might sound strange to some, but I've been there sometimes without even fucking a girl back when I was young and broke. 42 Euro for flatrate food and beer is a killer-deal on it's own, the 40-50 topless ladies walking around are just a bonus!

If you're still not sold, let's continue the day. Time to get sweaty, you enter one of the two saunas. One is for longer sessions, 70° C. The other one is for the real deal, 90° and you can get some incense to steam it up. After ten minutes you feel like you're 18 again and smoking your first bong, since you already have three beers in your system you decide it's wiser to go outside and not risk a serious heart failure. You leave the building, pull on the rope to empty the cold-water-bucket right above your head. Feels like being reborn. The fog clears, you grab your bathrobe and your drink and start wandering. In summer there is a huge! outdoor area where there is BBQ all day, tanning, lots of secluded sheds you can take a girl to, and even a fucking volleyball court. Did you ever play volleyball butt naked with some german, russian and turkish dudes against six eastern european hookers? Put it on your bucket list. There is a nice outdoor pool and outdoor finnish Sauna as well. After eating you get a little sleepy, you just sleep for half an hour on one of the comfy leather couches. You wake up to Eintracht Frankfurt scoring a goal, you look to the left and see some porn on the screen and a dude sitting there with two chicks on his lap. Time to get a 3pm good morning BJ. After that you join your buddies at the bar and later trod to the jacuzzi again. Tough life, but someones gotta do it. Rinse, repeat.

At the end of the day you don't give a fuck anymore about the spa, you just hang out with your bros at the bar and some girls who don't care about fucking anymore and just want to drink with you and have a good time. Serious business plans fly around who wouldn't survive daylight scrutiny for more than 3 seconds. Legends are spun, stories are told. Last call is 3:45 am, fuck those people for closing so early. Your skin feels like silk, you're seriously dehydrated from sex, jacuzzi and drinking 15 beers even though you could have had some sparkling water on the side for free. Well it's too late anyways. You grab your shit from the locker, have the lady call another minicar for you, because you're not one of those retards taking a taxi for 20 euro waiting in front of the club. No-no. You head back to your hotel in Gießen, drink some of the Whiskey you bought at the gas station for no sane reason, pass out at some point and wake up and ask yourself? Where was this paradise I can't even pronounce the name of and why the fuck do I listen to the ramblings of some German dude in some online board and actually travel to this piece-of-shit town? And way more important...is it 11am already so we can go back, Veselina and Svetlana promised to wait?
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Not sure if troll... Or just plain ban-bait.
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Sounds like the ultimate Poosy Paradise
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hanging around skinny dipping in a jacuzzi with my best friends, sipping some beer, talking shit and naked smiling ladies walking around eager to get you laid.... And that's what you get in a German sauna club

Is that where they shoot those nasty German bukkake films?
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Quote: (11-23-2013 09:36 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Not sure if troll... Or just plain ban-bait.

Kind of hope not...I like his writing style.
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Got kicked out of a hot tub at a hotel in the Twin Cities as the German broads I pulled out of the bar went topless.

Security guy was smiling the whole time.

Didn't have to pay them.
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@Vicious

I seriously don't get your point. These clubs are legit and legal in Germany, of course if you have principal or ethical issues with paid-sex: just don't do it. I'm not aware of violating any board rule with this write-up and if I did then please delete the post, my bad! I am by no means affiliated with any of these places nor do I have a vast experience in frequenting them except this location close to my hometown for obvious proximity reasons. And if you don't like the setting or even the country just travel somewhere else and enjoy yourself. All I'm saying is you can have a good time there with your friends, if you're into spa, chilling and grabbing some drinks in a well-heated environment sporting a bathrobe. But whatever floats your boat!

@J R

Indeed. Sometimes there are special gigs or contests if you're into participating in that kind of scene. I try not to be judgemental but this is something I for sure am never going to get into.
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It sounds more like a shoring guide. I had friends that did it in Germany. They'd hang in these places just to drink, and at some point meet the girls out somewhere, sans paying.
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Quote: (11-23-2013 09:53 AM)Menace Wrote:  

Quote: (11-23-2013 09:36 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Not sure if troll... Or just plain ban-bait.

Kind of hope not...I like his writing style.

This guy did an excellent sheet on Sofia, so please don't ban him too quickly. He just got here, let him learn the ways.
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Actually, this sounds like an amazingly good time.
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Fuck I live close to two of those places and never visited. Now I want to go!
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@Woot

make sure to check the reputation and selection of girls online first. I can only really speak for the club I've described, as with bars and restaurants there might also be some rotten apples in the basket. It is for sure the only place with a beer flatrate that I know of though, which makes my heart and liver pretty much decide in unison where to take me and my buddie's business to. Since I visit home a couple of times a year it's no big deal for me. My advice would be if you have a layover anyways or can get one or two extra days connecting in FRA on your way to wherever, it's definitely a nice way to kill some time.
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Feminists are currently vigorously at work to dismantle the remarkable progress Germany has made in this regard and criminalize prostitution again (first by de-legalizing it for everyone under the guise of "legalization encouraging the trafficking epidemic", then introducing the anti-male Swedish model). There has been a slew of articles in the major world newspapers about this issue during the last few weeks. I certainly hope that German lawmakers can resist this wave of stupidity.

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You'll have to excuse me if I have a problem taking someone seriously if they recommend me playing volleyball with some guy's junk flopping in my face.
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Never asked you to take me seriously, I'm not here for validation or a pat on the shoulder. Instead of just lurking around consuming insight I wrote down some info which I'm positive could be interesting for some members. It's not for everyone, true that. What you make out of it is your thing. Go, don't go...I seriously couldn't care less.
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Business meetings are sometimes conducted this way in saunas in Russia, but with a few key differences:

1. Men don't get naked in front of each other. They keep their towels on.
2. The girls are not supplied by the club. Each man brings his secretary/assistant/girlfriend or whatever.
3. Nobody pays anything except for the food and drinks.
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I'm with op on this vicious. maybe you're not comfortable with yourself in situations like this.
the whole point of it is "free body culture"
no one at a place like that is watching dicks bounce around...minus the girls.

when I was a kid,I remember going to a German sauna with my family. not having a care in the world , running around naked.

I've heard of these fkk clubs, but never been. I've rarely heard any stigma about these places..I just never knew exactly what went on inside.

this sounds like a great chill experience.

I will say..you could have picked a much better thread title

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Sounds pretty good to me, I will check one out when I go to Germany. One thing I'm curious about is how's the food in those places, and what kind of food items can I expect to see, for some reason the idea of eating at a buffet in a brothel seems a little funky to me, but maybe things are different in Europe.
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The more we know the better. Thanks for the info and insight.
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Comfort? You forget were I'm from and were saunas originate. A new guy making a post on it in conjunction with p4p is somewhat suspicious. Granted, I hadn't checked out his Sofia sheet which was solid.
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Quote: (11-23-2013 01:08 PM)Lisitshko Wrote:  

@Woot

make sure to check the reputation and selection of girls online first. I can only really speak for the club I've described, as with bars and restaurants there might also be some rotten apples in the basket. It is for sure the only place with a beer flatrate that I know of though, which makes my heart and liver pretty much decide in unison where to take me and my buddie's business to. Since I visit home a couple of times a year it's no big deal for me. My advice would be if you have a layover anyways or can get one or two extra days connecting in FRA on your way to wherever, it's definitely a nice way to kill some time.

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Have friends who go to FFK Oase and those places all the time. I just never really bothered. You make it sound pretty cool though.
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Sounds like a cool place to bond with your mates or take business clients, I don't really fancy p2p though. Any similar spots that non-working girls go to? Or is here much shoring going on at last call there?
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Quote: (11-23-2013 03:19 PM)Statsi Wrote:  

Sounds like a cool place to bond with your mates or take business clients, I don't really fancy p2p though. Any similar spots that non-working girls go to? Or is here much shoring going on at last call there?


there are regular mixed saunas.
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@vicious

Yeah probably not exactly the smartest third post from my side. No worries, that's all I have to say about p4p. Plus the thread title was indeed misleading, but that ship has sailed now.

@Statsi

Not really to be honest. You have two choices, FKK swinger clubs which I'd strongly advise against. Flabby 45 year old fatties getting fucked while their cuckold husbands watch. Oh boy. Second is just going to a normal Sauna center, they're called "Therme" or "Thermalbad" in German, like thermal. This is not exactly a gaming location though, there's also couples, retirees, families etc. It can be pulled off, but you have to be extremely cautious and overpolite I'd suggest in order to not come off as a creepy and soon to be kicked out stalker.

@OG

Again, I can't stress this enough, I've only been to two other clubs besides the FKK World I described. Both of them around Frankfurt. So I only vouch for this one place. One had maybe a couple more hotter girls but was not chill at all, more like a fuck factory and the buffet was how I'd imagine food in a prison cantina to taste. The other place had a solid buffet, so does the World. It's not a Michelin Restaurant of course, you should expect maybe rather diner-like food or about the level a decent company cantina would offer. Mostly some carb stables to get you recharged, French Fries, Croquettes or rice. Then either some chicken or beef stew or shashlik. A salad bar, some dessert. Hot soup. Bread. Nothing fancy, but it gets the job done. Fun part is, since the girls work 6-8 hour shifts they get hungry too of course, so sometimes you just hang out with a chick you like and politely hand her the salt shaker.

@DaveR

Same in these clubs, concerning the towels. But I do like the russian concept a lot, just need a sexy secretary which is even affordable here in Bulgaria.

In general, if any of you guys go to this one place I described send me a PM how you liked it, I'm curious. Maybe it's just me fancying this place because of good ol times with great buddies, who knows!
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Thanks for being civil about it, I'll endeavor to do better research the next time I get the same suspicion.
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