Quote: (11-18-2013 06:15 AM)Thomas the Rhymer Wrote:
Quote: (11-18-2013 03:10 AM)Hades Wrote:
Smoking went down, cancer went up.
Smoking does dramatically increase your risk of lung cancer and 90% of lung cancers are still diagnosed in smokers.
Let's not be spreading Big Tobacco sponsored propaganda, please. Smoking causes lung cancer in some people, end of story.
I agree completely that smoking is a huge risk factor and lots of people who would never get lung cancer had they never smoked develop it due to smoking. My post was referring to all incidences of cancer.
I read somewhere that despite less smoking, incidences of most types of cancers have been steadily going up, much to the bafflement of public health officials who assumed that smoking (and secondhand smoke) was a cancer-spreading grim reaper, causing not only lung cancer but all other sorts of cancers - so apparently other serious risk factors exist that play a role in cancer and it has nothing to do with smoking. Stress, obesity, bad diet, etc.
Another study alluded to the weirdness that was lifetime incidence of lung cancer and percentage of population that smokes, apparently the Japanese and the Swedish both have (or had) pretty high smoking rates but the Swedish were more than twice as likely to develop lung cancer as the similarly heavy-smoking Japanese. It's unclear why this is but it's suggested that some kind of genetic predisposition increases the likelihood of cancer in the Swedish (it's surely not an issue of longevity, the Japanese live for a very long time).
Now more incidences of cancer could be due to more healthcare or catching it earlier, not sure if the study did (or could) account for that, but my guess is that obesity (and maybe a sedentary lifestyle) is now a bigger risk factor towards developing cancer, as people have never been fatter.
What is strange is that being lean is supposedly a risk factor towards developing testicular cancer. Gonna have to do some more halfways productive reading about cancer to have a better opinion on it.
Quote: (11-18-2013 11:25 AM)kosko Wrote:
It's far from hippe Vegan shit. Humans were never designed to eat heavy meat diets. You will be hard pressed to find a elder whom isn't a Inuit whom lives off a 70% meat diet and is in elite health.
The Bodybuilding myth is that jacking metal weights around and eating 200g of protein a day is some how normal.. It never has been normal. It's a lifestyle deviant from the human norm. Accept that fact and just tweak things to get the most out of it. Most Bodybuilders are in shitty health and age poorly.
Colon Cancer has been exploding because we're not moving around as much, sitting to
much, not eating enough fibre, and drinking enough water. Curb all those bad modern human habits and you be fine. Nothing wrong with eating meat just remember you have to eat your fibre and drink your water with it.
The stuff sits in you gut for days breaking down. A vegetable can las through in a few hours ... Think which one is more healthy...
Drink your water. Eat your veggies, flax ha a shit ton of fibre I use that to bump up my daily totals. Prunes and prune juice is a old school method to stimulate your gut to work better. All are just little daily things you can do.
If you don't follow good habits it's basically a coin flip that you will get colon issues down the road. Shit isn't a joke. My old man just barley scaved off serious issues from catching shit early.
A guy can eat 200 grams of protein and it's no problem. I get probably 130 from meat and the remainder from protein shakes, eggs, and cheese. In a regular week I probably eat twice as many vegetables as most people (lots of stewed celery, carrots, mushrooms, cabbage, and onions, sometimes potatoes if peckish, along with pork or chicken of course). Two or three bananas at work every day. Still take pretty huge shits regularly.
I avoid eating any flax since it's estrogenic (as is soy, sunflower seeds). Celery probably has a lot of fiber, though it can be heavy on the pesticides - organic is a bitch though.
Agreed, fiber is important, and Paleo Man ate tons of it. Vegetables in general were more woody back then and full of fiber. Nowadays after cultivating grains and whatnot, fiber can be harder to come by.
Some website aggregated the highest fiber fruits and vegetables that I'll throw down here -
Quote:thyroid about dot com Wrote:
Highest Fiber Vegetables
Avocado
Beans
Broccoli*
Brussels sprouts*
Cabbage*
Carrot
Chick Peas/Garbanzo Beans
Eggplant
Greens -- collards, kale, turnip greens*
Lima beans
Mushrooms
Potato with skin
Pumpkin, canned
Peas -- black-eyed peas, green peas
Peppers
Rhubarb
Spinach*
Sweet Potatoes
* These high-fiber vegetables are also goitrogenic, meaning that they promote thyroid enlargement and can potentially cause or aggravate hypothyroidism. Typically, the risk is highest when these foods are consumed raw, regularly, and in substantial quantity. Cooking eliminates most goitrogenic properties.
Highest Fiber Fruits
Apples
Avocado
Bananas
Berries -- Blueberies, Blackberries, Raspberries, etc.
Dried Fruits -- Figs, Raisins, Apricots, Dates, etc.
Guava
Kiwi
Orange
Pears
Prunes
