[Virtus]

[Teedub]

Her naivety is both endearing and infuriating.

[Agent 47]

The arrogance and audacity of these people is amazing. There are those who oppose undesirables from entering their country and if they act like this, well, more power to them. These pricks are parasites. They are welcome to leave at anytime. Funny that the women seemed to know more about their precious Quaran than these troglodytes.

[Therapsid]

American Muslims don't act like this.

Granted, they're not a big minority. But I live by a community of Muslims, and they don't bother a soul.

How come Muslims in Europe do?

[It_is_my_time]

(11-14-2013 12:51 PM)Agent 47 Wrote:  

The arrogance and audacity of these people is amazing. There are those who oppose undesirables from entering their country and if they act like this, well, more power to them. These pricks are parasites. They are welcome to leave at anytime. Funny that the women seemed to know more about their precious Quaran than these troglodytes.

The women wanted to kick men out of the house and replace it with govt. The only way to pay for the govt. programs is by a growing population. Since these same women don't want men, they don't want kids.

So you have to import people from other countries to keep things afloat.

Only a matter of time until either the men in Europe wake up and kick socialism to the curb or get overrun by Islam and their kids/grandkids will be slaughtered.

[MHaes]

One of my biggest gripes with the UK is the growing influence they allow extremist Muslims to exert over their affairs. I honestly don't understand why the citizenry doesn't put a stop to it.

I don't see anything like this, or anything sharia-law related, being tolerated by the populace of the US. Why does the UK allow it to go on?

[Virtus]

Allow me to introduce 3 main sub-division of world, in Islam:

Dar al-Islam (House of Islam)

That is the area of the world which is under the rule of Islam. Saudi Arab, Iran, Pakistan etc.
Muslims must be able to enjoy peace and security with and within these countries. In these countries another religion cannot be practiced openly (like in form of procession or any means that shows your religion in public)
These territories are secured territories and all precautions must be taken to keep them secured.

Dar al-Harb (House of war)

Territories that do have a treaty of nonaggression or peace with Muslims. A country where majority (non-Islamic) is divided.There Islam should keep demanding more and later take over. This demanding can take place on any level, Country, State, City etc.
Example: Bangladesh (Use to be Hindu Nation now its Muslim), Whats shown in this Video a town in United Kingdom. Kashmir (once a beautiful city is now feared)
Mission is to reach a point where they can call that region a Dar-al Islam.

Dar al-Aman (House of safety)

Countries where Muslims have the right to practice their religion. And Majority is United and in Power. There they should keep it low key. But keep trying to find a crack and revolt (try to civilize the society the Islamic way).

Countries such as U.S., Australia. are still under Aman.

Example from video below: An Imam in Australia wanted separate court shariya for Islamic people. So the Court judged that if you want a separate court "Find another country".

Dr. Subramanyam Swami an Indian Politician explain in detail:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yazxvR-ijC8

TL;DR: If let loose; Islam will take over.

[Tuthmosis]

Her accent makes me .

[Therapsid]

(11-14-2013 01:01 PM)calihunter Wrote:  

Allow me to introduce 3 main sub-division of world, in Islam:

Dar al-Islam (House of Islam)

That is the area of the world which is under the rule of Islam. Saudi Arab, Iran, Pakistan etc.
Muslims must be able to enjoy peace and security with and within these countries. In these countries another religion cannot be practiced openly (like in form of procession or any means that shows your religion in public)
These territories are secured territories and all precautions must be taken to keep them secured.

Dar al-Harb (House of war)

Territories that do have a treaty of nonaggression or peace with Muslims. A country where majority (non-Islamic) is divided.There Islam should keep demanding more and later take over. This demanding can take place on any level, Country, State, City etc.
Example: Bangladesh (Use to be Hindu Nation now its Muslim), Whats shown in this Video a town in United Kingdom. Kashmir (once a beautiful city is now feared)
Mission is to reach a point where they can call that region a Dar-al Islam.

Dar al-Aman (House of safety)

Countries where Muslims have the right to practice their religion. And Majority is United and in Power. There they should keep it low key. But keep trying to find a crack and revolt (try to civilize the society the Islamic way).

Countries such as U.S., Australia. are still under Aman.

Example from video below: An Imam in Australia wanted separate court shariya for Islamic people. So the Court judged that if you want a separate court "Find another country".

Dr. Subramanyam Swami an Indian Politician explain in detail:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yazxvR-ijC8

TL;DR: If let loose; Islam will take over.

Actually, Islam didn't invent this.

The Talmud has almost the exact same set of rules.

Which is why, for example, Jews in the West are mostly liberal but suddenly become right-wing nationalists in Israel. It's because they have all the power there.

In other words, this notion that the religion will be practiced differently depending upon how numerous and powerful the faith is in a country was invented by Judaism. It's repeated time and again in the Talmud.

[scorpion]

You're starting to see the rise of Nationalist parties like Golden Dawn (Greece) and the National Front (France) in direct response to this mass Muslim immigration.

Britain will probably be the last European country to mount a popular Nationalist response, simply because it's already so far gone down the toilet of cultural Marxism.

[HeyPete]

(11-14-2013 12:57 PM)MHaes Wrote:  

One of my biggest gripes with the UK is the growing influence they allow extremist Muslims to exert over their affairs. I honestly don't understand why the citizenry doesn't put a stop to it.

I don't see anything like this, or anything sharia-law related, being tolerated by the populace of the US. Why does the UK allow it to go on?

Is that the type of muslim shit happening in the UK? Unbeleiveable.

They should let some hooligans loose in the middle of this parade. Right after telling said hooligans that the team they supports sucks.

[Lyokoz]

Charles Martel is long dead.

[Mekorig]

Dont know about that, i know that the UKIP and BNP are getting more support each day.

[vinman]

It has happened in some parts of America. Look up Dearbornistan. It's a reference to Dearborn, Michigan.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/03/23/...terrorist/

[Agent 47]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCXHPKhRCVg
A Word To Rioting Muslims.

It will do you good to watch this video and see how rampant this bullshit is. The guy goes off and just kills it.
Also a very good red pill source.

[Que enspastic]

Newspapers in UK keep writing articles about female genital mutiliation and don't identify which groups are behind it. Apparently it's 'British people' who are responsible slicing up girls.

[scandibro]

Originally, muslim immigration to Europe came in the form of foreign workers taking jobs that the local population didn't want to do in the roaring postwar European economy. They were mainly Turks (and Kurds). In Britain they were mainly Indian and Pakistani due to the Commonwealth still being in place. At that time, about the only opposition was from leftist parties and leftist trade unions who saw them as taking jobs from Europeans and dumping salaries - similar to how the Poles and other EE get attacked by the left and unions now.

The major shift in attitudes towards immigration on the political left happened sometime around the 60s/70s following the rise to power of the baby boomers.

The problem for the left was that their main voting base, the blue collar working family, had improved their living conditions because of free market growth in european economies. What the left found was that when the working class now had a car, a house, a dog, that they now didn't want any part in class warfare and socialist revolution. They had become middle class and were happy about what they had.

The old socialist parties faced becoming obsolete, so they now invented a new multicultural mindset. They adopted the immigrant class as the new 'weak class' in society, while voting to allow more immigrants. By creating this new class of immigrants they now had more voters to replace the lost local working class gone middle class. At the same time, it allowed the cultural-marxists another feel good cause and lots of government jobs to be created.

Of course the irony is that those leftists and cultural marxists are going to be the first that would be persecuted if muslims ever gained power. Womens rights? Minority rights? Gay marriage? It takes some serious narsicistic self delusion to take the side of muslims while being a leftist.

[Arg expert]

The UK situation, I don't know well.

...But about say, France : French Muslims are NOT fanatics, except some rare exceptions. Usually, they do NOT even practice their religion, matter of fact. They are usually normal, quiet and working people. 95% are Ok people, I'd say.

BUT, some other people do invade France, quickly. Mercilessly. People who usually do NOT care about Islam, even though they might take up islamic-sounding names, for strategic reasons. I will let you guess who these people are... Why they still come to crisis-hit, jobless France... who knows?! I do think they would live better, more happily, in their own gorgeous continent, but, well, they come here attracted by dreams... they are fools, most of them, cause their dreams won't be fulfilled in crisis-hit Europe...

(Note: the continent I am referring to is of course, NOT America, nor Asia.)

[evilhei]

crazy is all I can say. I cant imagine living together with people who think this way and in their heart wishes death to me since Im not into their religion. Thankfully we dont have many muslims (maybe hundred or two) in here. And I guess the reason is that they cant pull this kind of street protests here

[WalterBlack]

I can comment on this – I actually worked in that town that the lady is walking around for a year and I grew up in the same county. I was last there a year ago.

(11-14-2013 12:54 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

American Muslims don't act like this.

Granted, they're not a big minority. But I live by a community of Muslims, and they don't bother a soul.

How come Muslims in Europe do?

Because the Muslims in the US tend to come from a more educated background, speak Arabic and are less susceptible to radicalisation. The H1-B Visa system ensures that educated people come into the US. Most of the Muslims in the UK are either Pakistanis for Mirpur (which is one of the most backwards parts of Pakistan), or Sylethis from Bangladesh (again, one of the most backwards area).

Luton, where this was filmed has a lot of Pakistanis. A lot of them came over in 60s and 70s and worked in the Vauxhall (UK name for General Motors cars) plants. The plant has been laying people off for years so there’s not much employment as there used to be. There’s a lot of uneducated men with nothing better to do so a lot get into gangs or religion. I noticed after 9/11 that a lot of Muslim girls started covering their hair..before then almost none of them did. It seems that a many Muslims identified more with their religion after 9/11.

Also, Britain has offered sanctuary to Islamic radicals for years – this is back in 2005:
Blair Vows New Laws to End Sanctuary for Muslim Extremists

Quote:

The presence of radical Islamic groups, mosques and preachers in Britain has been criticized by some European countries, particularly France, which have argued that fundamentalists have been free to hatch terrorist plots here.

The critics have cited groups such as Al Muhajiroun, which praised the Sept. 11 attackers, and its leader, Sheikh Omar Bakri. Additionally, clerics such as Abu Qatada and Abu Hamza al-Masri were free to preach here, and mosques such as the Finsbury Park mosque were held to be centers of Islamic subversion used by terrorists - including the so-called shoe-bomber Richard Reid. In recent months, some of those clerics have been jailed or restricted. Mr. al-Masri is facing possible extradition to the United States.

These same guys have preaching in UK for years now. Most UK born Pakistanis cannot understand Arabic (the language of the Qu’ran) and their parents can’t speak Englsih, so a lot are open to be influenced by radical English speaking Arabs from the Middle East. There's a lot of them living in UK - they claimed political asylum years ago and stayed. Here’s the kicker – most of these guys are on welfare:

Fanatic who laughed at this country for 10 years

Quote:

For more than a decade, Abu Hamza ruthlessly exploited the British legal system and welfare state.

…

The radical preacher’s family has enjoyed huge benefit payments worth £650-a-week over the past decade, including a £600,000 five-bedroom council house in Shepherd’s Bush, West London, for his wife and their seven children.

The property, in the same street as one once owned by ex-Cabinet minister John Hutton, was given a £25,000 makeover by the council, including an £8,500 bathroom, a £13,500 kitchen, a new heating system and a complete redecoration. A plumber working on the house was told not to look at Hamza’s wife after she complained that he had seen her without her burka.

The family were allowed to keep the State hand-outs after Hamza was convicted in 2006 because all of the children were born in Britain.

The Taxpayers’ Alliance estimates Hamza has cost Britain at least £2.75million in welfare payments, council housing and legal costs.

Unknown to the authorities, Hamza bought a house for £220,000 cash in Greenford, West London, while in prison as a buy-to-let investment. It was later seized and sold for £280,000 to help fund part of his mammoth legal aid bill.

Multiple these numbers by 1.6 to convert to USD.

(11-14-2013 12:57 PM)MHaes Wrote:  

One of my biggest gripes with the UK is the growing influence they allow extremist Muslims to exert over their affairs. I honestly don't understand why the citizenry doesn't put a stop to it.

I don't see anything like this, or anything sharia-law related, being tolerated by the populace of the US. Why does the UK allow it to go on?

Because a lot of the liberal establishment let it go on – they want votes in those areas.

(11-14-2013 01:23 PM)HeyPete Wrote:  

Is that the type of muslim shit happening in the UK? Unbeleiveable.

They should let some hooligans loose in the middle of this parade. Right after telling said hooligans that the team they supports sucks.

Why would hooligans fight Muslims?

[bacon]

Jesus wtf is happening in Europe. Americans should be grateful for Mexican immigrants by comparison.

[Teedub]

WalterBlack has it spot on on the economic stuff and 9/11 etc. It's the same in the North of England.

(11-14-2013 01:23 PM)HeyPete Wrote:  

They should let some hooligans loose in the middle of this parade. Right after telling said hooligans that the team they supports sucks.

Research the 'EDL', specifically where it draws it's support.

[Saladin]

(11-14-2013 12:54 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

American Muslims don't act like this.

Granted, they're not a big minority. But I live by a community of Muslims, and they don't bother a soul.

How come Muslims in Europe do?

America's immigration policy ensures only the best come. Model citizens.

It seems like Europe seems to welcome anyone and everyone with open arms.

[WalterBlack]

(11-14-2013 07:44 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

WalterBlack has it spot on on the economic stuff and 9/11 etc. It's the same in the North of England.

(11-14-2013 01:23 PM)HeyPete Wrote:  

They should let some hooligans loose in the middle of this parade. Right after telling said hooligans that the team they supports sucks.

Research the 'EDL', specifically where it draws it's support.

The North of England (Bradford's nickname is “Bradistan”) is even worse - they have de-facto segregation there.

A tale of three cities

Quote:

Oldham lit the spark for the riots, which began there in late May 2001 and spread to Burnley and then Bradford. White and Asian youths fought one another and the police. Television coverage of petrol bombs hurled in the streets echoed the Troubles in Northern Ireland. The riots shocked Britain, because they showed the extent to which some immigrant communities remained separate—and potentially violent—while highlighting the unaddressed problems of economic decline
...
But it is the figures on racial mix and segregation which reflect the most intractable concerns. The white population is shrinking in all three towns and the ethnic minority population, mainly south Asian Muslims, is rising. In 2011, about one third of Bradford’s 300,000 people belong to ethnic minorities, mainly Pakistanis with a smaller group of Bangladeshis and Hindu Indians, and a few Sikhs and Afro-Caribbeans. For Oldham’s 220,000 population, the ethnic minority figure is rising towards 25 per cent and is split between Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. Burnley has only 85,000 people, about 12 per cent of whom are from an ethnic minority, mainly Pakistani. In a 2006 Joseph Rowntree Foundation report, Burnley scored the worst of any major town in Britain on an “isolation ratio” which measures housing segregation, with Oldham not far behind.
...
What went wrong? Speaking anonymously, one Bradford academic said the mill towns got the wrong immigrants. “Let me be frank, some of the most difficult and declining towns in Britain attracted some of the most difficult to integrate immigrants—the left-behind white working class and inward-looking Muslim minorities now glower at each resentfully across no-man’s-land, it has not been a happy marriage. David Cameron talks about ‘bad’ immigration, well this is surely what he means.”
...
Zaiba Malik, the Bradford-born journalist and author of a memoir of growing up in that town, We are a Muslim, please, recalls how the local authority helped to establish the council of mosques. “We Muslims became more vocal but more separate in the 1980s. It had all been about rights but it then came to be about Islam,” she says. At the beginning of the 1980s, minority politics in Bradford and in the other towns was about equal rights and fighting the National Front—symbolised by the acquittal of the Bradford 12: young Asian men who made petrol bombs to protect their streets against white racists. By the end of the 1980s the council of mosques, and men like Sher Azam (often businessmen), had taken over Asian politics and led the confrontation over Salman Rushdie’s novel The Satanic Verses, famously burned at a demonstration in Bradford.

At least some of the people in Luton can commute to jobs in London or Milton Keynes; they’re only 30 mins away. There's not much hope in northern England.

The UK press is also too fucking PC – whenever anything happens with Pakistani Muslims they say “Asian” (in UK “Asian” means South Asian – India, Pakistan, Bangladesh). Many Indians (who are one of most educated, law abiding and successful and communities in UK) are extremely pissed off about this.

[maxmueller]

Europe will be unrecognizable in 5-10 years. This is truly horrific. Nationalist Parties are in the move only to be shut down by cultural Marxists. I weep for the European people.