[XXL]

Seminars and FREE pickup footage of his full interactions from open to close. Seems like the dude's going at it. He's either total real deal or total impostor. We live in a world full of fake pranks and poser gurus so who really knows. Nonetheless I like the display of physicality in daytime and how natural his game looks in general despite being very touchy.

Example...

More at.. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ69s6p...0Tw/videos

[mr_lucky]

(11-12-2013 11:20 AM)XXL Wrote:  

Seminars and FREE pickup footage of his full interactions from open to close. Seems like the dude's going at it. He's either total real deal or total impostor. We live in a world full of fake pranks and poser gurus so who really knows. Nonetheless I like the display of physicality in daytime and how natural his game looks in general despite being very touchy.

Example...

More at.. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ69s6p...0Tw/videos

Not impressive enough to be fake.

He is certainly lower energy than Julien from RSD or Steve Jabba, which is refreshing, but I find his style quite lame and his claims inflated. Like in the following video titled "Instant make outs & pulls" wherein our hero kisses a girl on the lips for a millisecond amidst continued resistance (1:50), then makes out with the least attractive girl of the video (3:08)...Not the real deal.

[Hoodlum]

Steve Jabba is not high energy

[The Beast1]

Interesting, he sounds similar to the way I flirt.

I will never however attend a seminar or pay money for learning pick up. The stronger I get at the gym, the better my pick up results are. Ironically, I do better professionally and get more commendations at work.

[bodmon]

he's the real deal. i've met the guy. i first met him in may 2012, when he tried to sell me his bootcamp for $500. he's probably selling them now for over a thousand.

let's be clear though. he's the "real deal" because he is the ideal that RSD espouses: a mindless approach machine. approach approach approach, 7 days a week. no semblance of a normal job or life; become an instructor and sell bootcamps so that you can live a life full of free time for more and more approaching.

on the night i met him he demo'd for me as a potential client. he ran around approaching like a lunatic on the streets, using an RSD-style high five + spin move screening opener. i felt i should have been impressed but really i was more weirded out. i was like... is this it? is this where things are headed? no room to be a good man, an interesting man... of substance... but a valueless automaton that just throws shit on the wall and sees what sticks... ? i have accepted the numbers game aspect of cold approach but it was disconcerting to see it in such an extreme form.

[VincentVinturi]

Man, nothing like picking a girl off the street and taking her back to your cave in broad daylight. This is by far the most rewarding kind of pickup for me.

This dude has a lot of awkward body language and conversational moments, which just goes to show you that many pickups are totally clunky but will still result in a lay if you're direct and sexual and physical. But that's not taking anything away from the guy. He seems like a normal, well adjusted man...unlike so many of those PUA weirdos we see...

[soup]

Guys, always look for the girl's nervous smile and or laughter before it happens and pull back out away from the kiss before they do it.

You have to be sensitive to their insecurities and anxieties otherwise it's a strike against you.

[VincentVinturi]

(11-12-2013 01:31 PM)bodmon Wrote:  

he's the real deal. i've met the guy. i first met him in may 2012, when he tried to sell me his bootcamp for $500. he's probably selling them now for over a thousand.

let's be clear though. he's the "real deal" because he is the ideal that RSD espouses: a mindless approach machine. approach approach approach, 7 days a week. no semblance of a normal job or life; become an instructor and sell bootcamps so that you can live a life full of free time for more and more approaching.

on the night i met him he demo'd for me as a potential client. he ran around approaching like a lunatic on the streets, using an RSD-style high five + spin move screening opener. i felt i should have been impressed but really i was more weirded out. i was like... is this it? is this where things are headed? no room to be a good man, an interesting man... of substance... but a valueless automaton that just throws shit on the wall and sees what sticks... ? i have accepted the numbers game aspect of cold approach but it was disconcerting to see it in such an extreme form.

Damn...that sucks. He seems normal enough when you watch the vids but I guess you never really know about people.

[Distant Light]

(11-12-2013 01:31 PM)bodmon Wrote:  

he's the real deal. i've met the guy. i first met him in may 2012, when he tried to sell me his bootcamp for $500. he's probably selling them now for over a thousand.

let's be clear though. he's the "real deal" because he is the ideal that RSD espouses: a mindless approach machine. approach approach approach, 7 days a week. no semblance of a normal job or life; become an instructor and sell bootcamps so that you can live a life full of free time for more and more approaching.

on the night i met him he demo'd for me as a potential client. he ran around approaching like a lunatic on the streets, using an RSD-style high five + spin move screening opener. i felt i should have been impressed but really i was more weirded out. i was like... is this it? is this where things are headed? no room to be a good man, an interesting man... of substance... but a valueless automaton that just throws shit on the wall and sees what sticks... ? i have accepted the numbers game aspect of cold approach but it was disconcerting to see it in such an extreme form.

One of the main "flaws" of chasing women...

As a person who is over 21+ I'm no longer fascinated by daygame and see all of this because in terms of BANGING CHICKS...

WASTE OF TIME

People miss out on actual "memorable" experiences with both close friends and NEW women. When's the last time he celebrated a friends bday?

Nonetheless, most community dude no long inspire me as I'm more inspired by people who actually LIVE A LIFE and have far hotter women in their life. For example, a friend of a friend...

[The Beast1]

(11-13-2013 11:45 AM)Distant Light Wrote:  

(11-12-2013 01:31 PM)bodmon Wrote:  

he's the real deal. i've met the guy. i first met him in may 2012, when he tried to sell me his bootcamp for $500. he's probably selling them now for over a thousand.

let's be clear though. he's the "real deal" because he is the ideal that RSD espouses: a mindless approach machine. approach approach approach, 7 days a week. no semblance of a normal job or life; become an instructor and sell bootcamps so that you can live a life full of free time for more and more approaching.

on the night i met him he demo'd for me as a potential client. he ran around approaching like a lunatic on the streets, using an RSD-style high five + spin move screening opener. i felt i should have been impressed but really i was more weirded out. i was like... is this it? is this where things are headed? no room to be a good man, an interesting man... of substance... but a valueless automaton that just throws shit on the wall and sees what sticks... ? i have accepted the numbers game aspect of cold approach but it was disconcerting to see it in such an extreme form.

One of the main "flaws" of chasing women...

As a person who is over 21+ I'm no longer fascinated by daygame and see all of this because in terms of BANGING CHICKS...

WASTE OF TIME

People miss out on actual "memorable" experiences with both close friends and NEW women. When's the last time he celebrated a friends bday?

Nonetheless, most community dude no long inspire me as I'm more inspired by people who actually LIVE A LIFE and have far hotter women in their life. For example, a friend of a friend...

Agreed, the RSD lifestyle isn't the one I want to follow. I have a life and I enjoy women on the side. These guys are taking the fruits of hard work and making it their life. This completely devalues the reward.

I heard a lot of former stellar PUAs became a bunch of shut in hermits or did a 180 change of life style. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of us go through something like that.

[thegmanifesto]

(11-13-2013 11:45 AM)Distant Light Wrote:  

Distant, these videos could be good, but they are so damn choppy they are almost unwatchable.

Some better editing and flow, and you would really have something.

Side note:

Is that first nightspot in the video Raven?

[Saladin]

I know him. He's a cool guy and he is legit. He does go out a fuckton.

Agree with Distant Light as that's not what I want my life to be(constantly cold approaching). However have to give him props, dude has dedication and he's always cool to me.

[XXL]

OK so if he's legit [real pickups/not staged] guy then I can tell that his approaches look way more spontaneous and natural than what daygame.com crew does with their yad stop and "what i noticed about you" phrase and standing still like a statue in front of the girl.

Too bad he rehashes rsd stuff sometimes word for word

[Frank]

Yep, getting bangs through "extended social circles" trumps cold approaching. Far less taxing. Easier to demonstrate value, so on and so forth.

But it is worth remembering that cold approaching is an excellent way for a newb to quickly learn the nuts and bolts of social and sexual dynamics. That's assuming he is reflecting on the approaches, and has people (RVF, the occasional good poster that's left on TRP, game blogs, red pill friends, etc) he can learn from.

I've rarely mass approached, but just approaching a lot helped me a great deal. Of course, now that this is an after thought, I'm with all of you who're saying working on achievements/value/lifestyle trumps cold approaching any time. Someone here has a signature which says "You lose money chasing women, but you never lose women when chasing money", and Matt of 3bromigos.com had a good post on the subject titled Value.

[Plutoman]

(11-15-2013 11:36 AM)Frank Wrote:  

Yep, getting bangs through "extended social circles" trumps cold approaching. Far less taxing. Easier to demonstrate value, so on and so forth.

If cold approaches are taxing, you're doing them wrong.

I think you're missing the point of the above posts; they are not saying don't approach, they are criticizing the approach machine mentality of approaching 8 hours a day as a freaking job.

I make 2-3 approaches a day - they are casual - they fit in with what I do in the day - and they're definitely not taxing. They're the same level of taxing as chit chatting with other peeps in a coffee shop is, which I also do frequently.

[Frank]

^

Yeah, that's alright. I meant doing 10-20+ approaches a day would be taxing.

At least, for me, when I mass approached (night, probably way, way over 20), it was pretty taxing. Physically and emotionally.

[Distant Light]

(11-13-2013 01:43 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(11-13-2013 11:45 AM)Distant Light Wrote:  

Distant, these videos could be good, but they are so damn choppy they are almost unwatchable.

Some better editing and flow, and you would really have something.

Side note:

Is that first nightspot in the video Raven?

Yea, I agree with the choppiness...

That was his "vines" I compiled together and 1st venue (with the sparklers clip...not the earlier VMAs clip) is actually SL which to this day still has models (they cycle there model promoters)

Here is my personal video of my own lifestyle... (no choppiness, clips from 2 different days out)

EDIT
- 1st clip is ph-d
- majority of clips are from day n night brunch
- Dj bugging out is partners with my BOYs cousin (who's next to him)
- I mention my BOY because he also DJs and is there, one of my community friends could've been a huge trance producer BUT chose pickup :o


IMO, cold approach is an amazing TOOL

It allows you to roll into a new city and literally TRANSFORM YOUR LIFE and also bring new women into your lifestyle. While, I have zero experience on travel and women. The basic skills I have...

A. Research City BEFOREHAND
B. Fly In and DAY ONE approach a handful of attractive women, dine out in non-tourist areas to meet "the people" and get info about the venues researched.
C. Call up/E-Mail/Contact/Visit the venue with purpose of wanting to speak to the manager telling them I just flew in from xyz (NY) and bringing a 10-15 chicks with me as a "welcome" celebration.
D. Show up

The thing I don't get is community dudes always just try try try instead of actually ENJOYING THEIR LIFE. Not only will I have people to pre-game with BUT we will hit a sick venue and do it up as if I never left NY. I'm only here for an extended period so lets just do it up until I'm gone!!!!

I say this because, I'm the dude who does this for friends around the world when they come here.

(11-15-2013 02:01 PM)Plutoman Wrote:  

(11-15-2013 11:36 AM)Frank Wrote:  

Yep, getting bangs through "extended social circles" trumps cold approaching. Far less taxing. Easier to demonstrate value, so on and so forth.

If cold approaches are taxing, you're doing them wrong.

I think you're missing the point of the above posts; they are not saying don't approach, they are criticizing the approach machine mentality of approaching 8 hours a day as a freaking job.

I make 2-3 approaches a day - they are casual - they fit in with what I do in the day - and they're definitely not taxing. They're the same level of taxing as chit chatting with other peeps in a coffee shop is, which I also do frequently.

Word!!! Nothing wrong approaching on the train on a 2hr commute...

[Kish]

(11-12-2013 11:20 AM)XXL Wrote:  

Damn. Are Toronto girls that easy?

I like the second girls voice for some reason.

[ChocolateCockOfZeus]

Classic RSD:

"You're adorable; I like your energy."

"You have streaks in your hair; I like your energy."

"You voted republican? I like your energy."

[ChocolateCockOfZeus]

(11-12-2013 01:31 PM)bodmon Wrote:  

...no room to be a good man, an interesting man... of substance... but a valueless automaton that just throws shit on the wall and sees what sticks... ?...

I think we've found starmaze.