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1)What you don’t know actually does hurt you
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“I studied women in college too… Heh, heh.” (This one’s uttered by your friend’s creepy dad or your questionable uncle.) Runner-up: “Why isn’t there a Men’s Studies?” (It’s called History.)

When I took my first Women’s Studies class, I’d often come home angry; I’d grown up with a progressive family, I was well-traveled, and I’d gotten good grades throughout school, and yet I still hadn’t heard about the Declaration of Sentiments or the Equal Rights Amendment; I’d still never questioned the stereotypes that women are bad at math and men are bad at feelings; I’d never heard of rape culture or the gender wage gap.
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I was reminded further that women’s issues aren’t getting the mainstream attention they deserve: that women are widely underrepresented in politics; that the number of sexual assaults on college campuses is staggeringly high; that women still get paid less for equal work.

2)It applies…to everything.

Since it covers so many different subjects, you have a broad range of job opportunities; you’re not tied to a specific field like you would be with a marine biology or accounting degree.
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it’s not so much a career choice as it is a life choice; you’re adopting a new perspective that you’ll use in every relationship, every job, and every circumstance.

3)It’s relevant.

It’s War on Women this, and Birth Control Access Violates Our Religious Freedom that. Women and women’s health are at the center of politics right now. Sh-t just got real. Well, I guess it got real a year ago when the House nearly shut down the government over Planned Parenthood funding.

4)Oppression knows no bounds. But the good news is that justice doesn’t either.

One of the first words you learn as a Women’s Studies major is intersectionality
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it’s a theory that examines how different forms of identity like race, class, gender, sexuality, and ability intersect and interact on multiple levels.
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Majoring in Women’s Studies allows you to challenge these intersecting oppressions and address the systemic problems that create them, and it instills a huge sense of compassion for disadvantaged, oppressed groups. And we all know that compassion leads to justice.

5)It’s on the right side of history.
A WS degree opens doors that you may not have known were there or otherwise even comprehended. Women’s Studies explores why women are underrepresented in politics and higher-level jobs, and then it shows you how to change that — how to strive toward a more just, equal, and vibrant society.

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the author wyb?

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

The delusion of this tortured mind is truly scary. She was a normal, balanced person before going there to study that crap. They managed to convince her that her normal, tolerant, reasonable and law-abiding family was a nest of misogynists who have failed to educate her about critical issues of the world. I can't think of a greater crime than poisoning a person's mind like that. To have their own daughter thing that they belong to some kind of patriarchal cult that has kept her in the dark for years is truly scary.

[LeBeau]

WYB?

Fuck No.

Besides how plain she looks, just check out those dead bitter eyes.

Also, I see some quality trolling on the comments from months back, and unintentional hilarity from the Women's Studies majors:

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There are lots of jobs available for GWSS majors. HR, non-profit, education, LGB and Transgender issues in politics and so forth.

So in reality...either trying to campaign for issues using other people's money, or jobs created and perpetuated based on quotas.....great.

[Veloce]

Here, I'll summarize all that needs to be said:

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When I took my first Women’s Studies class, I’d often come home angry; I’d grown up with a progressive family, I was well-traveled, and I’d gotten good grades throughout school, I was reminded further that women’s issues aren’t getting the mainstream attention they deserve: that women are widely underrepresented in politics; that the number of sexual assaults on college campuses is staggeringly high; that women still get paid less for equal work.

[TheSlayer]

The reason that women's studies is so toxic is that they operate on a platform of negativity, hatred of men, and the idea that society/men/patriarchy have denied women their rights. Women's studies teach that society is still anti-women and that women have to fight the patriarchy to realize their true potential.

I have skimmed quite a few course outlines for some of women's studies courses and their readings. Some of the most common teachings of these courses are:

"Traditional gender roles" are a burden on women and seek to restrict them.
The family unit and household work absolves men of all their responsibilities.
Women have been discriminated against throughout the history of mankind.
Men have all the privileges in society and the system is built to protect them.
Workplace sexism and misogyny is responsible for the gender wage-gap.
To protect themselves women need feminism and they need to challenge the existing order in society by focusing on their careers.
It should be the duty of your employer/government to help you raise your kids with daycare and childcare services so you can focus on your career (this is not a joke).
Most importantly, equality of opportunity is not enough, if there isn't equality of outcome then that's because society is working against you.


Now what do you think happens when a woman takes these courses and learns these things over and over for 4 years? Of course, her mind is going to be poisoned. The worst part of all of this is that there are many men who take these courses too and we see them transformed as manginas, male feminists, and Anil Dashes etc.

Women's studies is nothing but a tool for feminists to indoctrinate young women and increase their numbers.

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"Since it covers so many different subjects, you have a broad range of job opportunities"

[Duke Castile]

I had no idea that women's studies could allow you to get a job as an accountant or marine biologist.

Also, It is a revelation to me that "compassion" leads to justice.

Strangely the principles surrounding justice don't mention compassion but do heavily talk about equality which as zero to do with women's studies.

[Wadsworth]

(10-07-2013 03:18 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

I had no idea that women's studies could allow you to get a job as an accountant or marine biologist.

Also, It is a revelation to me that "compassion" leads to justice.

Actually, I think she's probably right about this. And it's exactly why her position isn't conducive to justice. How compassionate are her views toward men? Her entire worldview is built upon a foundation of lies about society and men, and as a result her conception of justice ends up being profoundly anti male.

When men complain about something unjust, she's outraged. How dare men complain, we live in a "patriarchy" etc. etc. In short, she's a simpleton in the extreme.

The indifference is on her side, and it's why it's her movement that's on the wrong side of history.

[007]

That's scary brother, I never knew that gender / womens studies was that toxic.

(10-07-2013 03:05 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

The reason that women's studies is so toxic is that they operate on a platform of negativity, hatred of men, and the idea that society/men/patriarchy have denied women their rights. Women's studies teach that society is still anti-women and that women have to fight the patriarchy to realize their true potential.

I have skimmed quite a few course outlines for some of women's studies courses and their readings. Some of the most common teachings of these courses are:

"Traditional gender roles" are a burden on women and seek to restrict them.
The family unit and household work absolves men of all their responsibilities.
Women have been discriminated against throughout the history of mankind.
Men have all the privileges in society and the system is built to protect them.
Workplace sexism and misogyny is responsible for the gender wage-gap.
To protect themselves women need feminism and they need to challenge the existing order in society by focusing on their careers.
It should be the duty of your employer/government to help you raise your kids with daycare and childcare services so you can focus on your career (this is not a joke).
Most importantly, equality of opportunity is not enough, if there isn't equality of outcome then that's because society is working against you.


Now what do you think happens when a woman takes these courses and learns these things over and over for 4 years? Of course, her mind is going to be poisoned. The worst part of all of this is that there are many men who take these courses too and we see them transformed as manginas, male feminists, and Anil Dashes etc.

Women's studies is nothing but a tool for feminists to indoctrinate young women and increase their numbers.

[Duke Castile]

(10-07-2013 04:28 PM)Wadsworth Wrote:  

(10-07-2013 03:18 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

I had no idea that women's studies could allow you to get a job as an accountant or marine biologist.

Also, It is a revelation to me that "compassion" leads to justice.

Actually, I think she's probably right about this. And it's exactly why her position isn't conducive to justice. How compassionate are her views toward men? Her entire worldview is built upon a foundation of lies about society and men, and as a result her conception of justice ends up being profoundly anti male.

When men complain about something unjust, she's outraged. How dare men complain, we live in a "patriarchy" etc. etc. In short, she's a simpleton in the extreme.

The indifference is on her side, and it's why it's her movement that's on the wrong side of history.

I see your point but, I look at it like this; if you were training for sprinting by working out with weights only, would you maximize your sprinting ability? Or would you be better served by actual sprinting?

In a similar vein, pursuing compassion does not lead to Justice.

Pursuing Justice leads to Justice.

Then you have to consider that who and what you are compassionate towards is very subjective, Justice on the other hand is supposed to be about real fairness no matter what your personal preference.

It's why the Lady holding the scales of justice is blindfolded.

Compassion is about personal feelings, Justice isn't.

[cibo]

You know, if the government, banks, etc actually did a loan assessment on degree viability based on future payouts, woman's studies would be non-existent in a flash. This is a classic situation of government intervention keeping a loss making enterprise a float due to special interests (femcunts).

[Sp5]

(10-07-2013 05:09 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

In a similar vein, pursuing compassion does not lead to Justice.

Pursuing Justice leads to Justice.

Then you have to consider that who and what you are compassionate towards is very subjective, Justice on the other hand is supposed to be about real fairness no matter what your personal preference.

It's why the Lady holding the scales of justice is blindfolded.

Compassion is about personal feelings, Justice isn't.

You are summarizing a basic male / female difference there. One reason women on juries can be so volatile is that they will rule on whether they are sorry for the defendant. Of course, if there's a "victim," they might feel more sorry for them and smoke the defendant even though the evidence is weak.

Actually there are jobs for women's studies majors: many international development projects have "gender specialists" to ensure that there is "gender equity" in the program or to promote women's rights/participation. I bet there are 20-30 gender specialists in Afghanistan right now, getting paid $$$ to try to teach illiterate Afghan women to think like women from the Upper West Side or Hampstead.

[Wadsworth]

(10-07-2013 05:09 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

(10-07-2013 04:28 PM)Wadsworth Wrote:  

(10-07-2013 03:18 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

I had no idea that women's studies could allow you to get a job as an accountant or marine biologist.

Also, It is a revelation to me that "compassion" leads to justice.

Actually, I think she's probably right about this. And it's exactly why her position isn't conducive to justice. How compassionate are her views toward men? Her entire worldview is built upon a foundation of lies about society and men, and as a result her conception of justice ends up being profoundly anti male.

When men complain about something unjust, she's outraged. How dare men complain, we live in a "patriarchy" etc. etc. In short, she's a simpleton in the extreme.

The indifference is on her side, and it's why it's her movement that's on the wrong side of history.

I see your point but, I look at it like this; if you were training for sprinting by working out with weights only, would you maximize your sprinting ability? Or would you be better served by actual sprinting?

In a similar vein, pursuing compassion does not lead to Justice.

Pursuing Justice leads to Justice.

Then you have to consider that who and what you are compassionate towards is very subjective, Justice on the other hand is supposed to be about real fairness no matter what your personal preference.

It's why the Lady holding the scales of justice is blindfolded.

Compassion is about personal feelings, Justice isn't.

This is a good point, but let me explain what I meant. Our definition of justice expands as our ability to show compassion for one another expands. There were those who considered it just that blacks be kept as slaves in the 1850s. Or that it was just to hang a black man for being accused of raping a white woman. These were standards of justice which were fundamentally due to an almost complete lack of compassion for black people.

I'm not comparing men to blacks in this regard, but some consider it just today that a man be forced to work by the state to pay for a woman's choice to have a baby. Or that he be forced to work to pay his ex wife long after she's left him. These standards of justice have emerged due to a differential in compassion shown to women and to men.

And if you consider this to be fundamentally unfair, the most likely response you'll get is suck it up, simply because of that same compassion differential.

My point is that any unconscious biases a society has will be carried into how they define what is just. This is fundamentally the problem with the modern age of left-wing "social justice warrior." They carry unconscious sexism and bias, and they carry it into their advocacy for "justice," which is why we often look at them like they're fucked in the head (most of them are).