[Parlay44]

American mail order brides? Is such a thing possible?

[Kingsley Davis]

Since so many American women are cows anyway...bag em, tag em and mail em.

   

[aguirre]

it's very curious this phenomenon..seems like russian men have low testosterone?or they're so used to their women that they don't mind losing them?

[John Michael Kane]

With job prospects ranging from middling to poor, it isn't surprising that men from poorer countries like Russia will try to marry into women that can provide additional income, or commitment-free sex. I suspect a lot of these guys try to use the American gf/wife as a foothold into the country. That's not to say that sometimes it doesn't work out, but I am wondering just how much motivation outside of love plays an impetus for these types of relationships.

[GeroMeroHero]

Seems like a fair trade to me...

[SteveMcMahon]

Dear Russian men,

Why ship wives in all the way from America, when your friends in Great Britain are here to help?

Do you remember Concorde? Of course you do. Well, why not enjoy a fine English girl who looks like Concorde?


She won those medals by a nose

Or are you a fan of girls who look like your grandmother's sofa? Aren't we all?! We have you covered:


Piefall

Perhaps you prefer the exotic, sunkissed look? Look no further, my friends!


There was a third bridesmaid, but the one on the right ate her.

Yes, whatever you need in a wife is waiting for you in Britain! If I may make a suggestion, you may want to lure them onto your Aeroflot flight using chips as bait.

No need to thank me! Just send those girls from TATU over here, that is payment enough.


God help me, I will cure these lesbians

Oh, and Anna Chapman.


She clearly needs something Putin her

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

It's difficult to believe that they did this because they were really attracted to these women; in my opinion, they were just after citizenship/permanent residency. In any case, these are just isolated cases.

[N°6]

(09-22-2013 04:01 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  

It actually makes a bit of sense. Traditionally Russian men wanted BIG women. Thin women weren't considered ideal, its western image that made thin women attractive. I can imagine an old fashioned older FSU guy who is sick of thin women wanting an American...WITH MONEY .

They start to exhibit the 'Olga from the Volga' look quite early at 35.

[MinskPlayer]

I am currently living in Belarus and I would absolutely prefer a well off 7+ western woman to a 9 here. Y'all should stop looking at ee women through rose tinted glasses. They have huge issues.

[RandomGuy1]

(02-03-2015 02:55 AM)MinskPlayer Wrote:  

They have huge issues.

[Roosh]

Fake trend. Notice how many times "it seems" was used. They found only ONE example of this happening, and a dating consultant who gave no numbers of how many Russian man wanted American blubber. My guess is she agreed to fit their narrative to be put on television to promote her business.

Nothing to see here... keep studying Russian.

[ChazKGB]

(02-03-2015 02:55 AM)MinskPlayer Wrote:  

I am currently living in Belarus and I would absolutely prefer a well off 7+ western woman to a 9 here. Y'all should stop looking at ee women through rose tinted glasses. They have huge issues.

but if the woman is unconscious, which one is better?

[Travesty]

(02-03-2015 02:55 AM)MinskPlayer Wrote:  

I am currently living in Belarus and I would absolutely prefer a well off 7+ western woman to a 9 here. Y'all should stop looking at ee women through rose tinted glasses. They have huge issues.

Obviously you don't have a California ID.

[bacardi123]

I am not "Russian" but now that Americans consider everyone around Russia to be "Russian" (including Germany and China...lol), then Yes I am "Russian", since I am from eastern Europe and what applies to Russian men, also applies to eastern European men in general...so in other words I can see why many Russian men will look elsewhere:

* Slavic women are overhyped.
* Some guys simply dislike the typical "Slavic look" (triangular faces, deep eyes, "circles" under the eyes, reddish hair etc.).
* Some guys may not like the "soft"-sounding Russian language.
* Very hard to bed Slavic girl on the first date due to her "traditional mentality".
* Women with zero personality
* Passport hunters...

With that being said I am not saying American women are my ideal of beauty, but just that they're underrated and...it's possible to find a one who is perfect out of population of 150 million or so?

[bacardi123]

Side note: Two of the horniest and most beautiful girls I've met once on a trip to Hungary were 2 american girls from Utah/Salt lake city.

I mean....this video shows 2/3 girls who aren't bad looking at all (Utah again?):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMA

[MinskPlayer]

Oh I obviously wouldn't settle for a western fatty, but a well off, good natured western 7 (as rare as that may be) is a winner comparing to any ee girl, even 9+.

I've been in a relationship with a western 7 (she has Bulgarian roots) and she is by far the best woman I've ever met. Ee girls are good for sex, nothing more. Their 'kolhoz' mentality makes them atrocious for ltr.

[Akula]

(02-04-2015 06:43 AM)MinskPlayer Wrote:  

Oh I obviously wouldn't settle for a western fatty, but a well off, good natured western 7 (as rare as that may be) is a winner comparing to any ee girl, even 9+.

I've been in a relationship with a western 7 (she has Bulgarian roots) and she is by far the best woman I've ever met. Ee girls are good for sex, nothing more. Their 'kolhoz' mentality makes them atrocious for ltr.

^^^ this goes against common forum logic and my experience. Even the relatively few "good natured western 7s" know their value and exploit it to an extent, and are a privileged class. They also are almost always non-feminine, can't cook, are crappy mothers etc....many have ridden the cock carousel too.

Among western women, Anglosphere women in particular are on average generally HORRIBLE for relationships. They are generally narcissistic iphone and Instagram idiots who are told they are "special" and strong and "don't need a man" all their lives so they act accordingly. They are also pampered and encouraged by the media, culture and society to practically think that they can do no wrong and are always in the right and/or are "victims" of some sort (e.g. "you go girl" and "rape culture").

Moreover, if you ever did turn an LTR into marriage then, well, when it all goes to sh*t in a marriage you as the man typically both lose 1/2 your income (or worse) along with the children's custody. Great deal for men!!

Not sure what you are saying here but you seem to be extrapolating from one good relationship with a western 7 that somehow these girls are all like that. RVFers can assure that they are not! Perhaps the fact that she came from Bulgaria made here different and more "traditional" I guess.

Personally I would say that of my 10 or so LTRs with Slavic women that practically every one was a better LTR candidate than the Western women I've been with.

@Bacardi123 you do know that Utah is a heavily Mormon state and even though those girls were horny most tend to be fairly religious and a bit tougher to crack? Most don't drink or smoke too so they would naturally have better genes/skin I'd guess. I didn't see any stunners in the video but many of those girls were certainly cute and pretty, albeit hoodie / backpack-wearing slacker-looking types.

And who goes to Hungary to chase American women? From Slubu's & Excelsior's threads this summer there seemed to have been a ton of beautiful Hungarian and European girls there who were typically much better than most American women at least from what they described. It's great that you found the 2 exceptions but I would not turn these girls into examples of what the typical fat & chunky American woman looks like!

Re the thread topic, all the Russian guys I know are pretty appalled by the fatties and female attitudes they have observed from American women. I guess these guys in the article are just looking for Green Cards or some sort of free ride.

[cool guy]

The only Russian men that marry western Anglophone women do it because of some ideology such as Mormonism or fundamental Christianity such as Valery Bure & Candace Cameron or in order to get attention such as Wladimir Klitschko & Hayden Panettiere. His brother is a politician in Ukraine and I think he also wants to start a political career so the attention helps. I also have to point out that both these women are in the top 5% in looks anywhere in the world for their age.
The only Russian guys I met who weren't married to other Russians were married to Latinas. I know of three Russian guys here in the US one married a Cuban, one a Venezuelan and the other a Panamanian/Mexican mix. I've never met a Russian or Slavic man married to an Anglophone woman. I think their values just clash too much. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitali_Klitschko
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wladimir_Klitschko
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayden_Panettiere
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valeri_Bure
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candace_Cameron_Bure

[MinskPlayer]

akula, you are right in that it's more difficult to find a good western 7. Doesn't mean it's impossible. I've done it, perhaps by luck, I don't know. but they are out there

I've spent a half my life on each side of the pond, and I guarantee it, if you are looking for a unicorn, west is the way to go. Ee is good for sex and ugly rich men who are ok being used as wallets.

[DJ-Matt]

Quote:

Piefall

[TripleG]

(02-05-2015 01:55 AM)MinskPlayer Wrote:  

akula, you are right in that it's more difficult to find a good western 7. Doesn't mean it's impossible. I've done it, perhaps by luck, I don't know. but they are out there

I've spent a half my life on each side of the pond, and I guarantee it, if you are looking for a unicorn, west is the way to go. Ee is good for sex and ugly rich men who are ok being used as wallets.

Sorry MinskPlayer, that is a bunch of gibberish you are talking about. Perhaps you are talking about a small sample of western women that you have dated and by some miracle they turned out to be good to you but 9 times out of 10 an EE girl will be superior in everything, except perhaps for her money earning potential (too many Ivy league educated, $100k+ bitches in Washington, DC where I live).
You need to backup some of your opinions with data otherwise I am seeing a

[MinskPlayer]

This is game, what data is there is would be personal and anecdotal. but I've been on roughly 100 dates with ee women and 50ish west.

If you want to understand what's really behind ee woman's allegly more feminine and provider-oriented nature, read Pushkin's Goldfish (it's very short). But it defines what ee woman looks for in a man. I have not met an exception to this.

In choosing lesser evil I'll take chances with a western 100k bitch, who will stick with me because I'm alpha enough, not because I provide for her.

[DaveR]

(02-05-2015 01:55 AM)MinskPlayer Wrote:  

akula, you are right in that it's more difficult to find a good western 7. Doesn't mean it's impossible. I've done it, perhaps by luck, I don't know. but they are out there

I've spent a half my life on each side of the pond, and I guarantee it, if you are looking for a unicorn, west is the way to go. Ee is good for sex and ugly rich men who are ok being used as wallets.

I'm going to back up TripleG here and call your drivel...

1. What is an "ee woman" exactly? If you think they're all the same, you obviously don't know them very well.

2. unicorns don't exist... chasing them is a good way to waste your life

3. you claim that "western" women are superior, but then told us a girl with Bulgarian roots is "by far the best woman I've ever met." Which is it?

[DaveR]

Some more points:

(02-06-2015 02:32 AM)MinskPlayer Wrote:  

If you want to understand what's really behind ee woman's allegly more feminine and provider-oriented nature, read Pushkin's Goldfish (it's very short). But it defines what ee woman looks for in a man. I have not met an exception to this.

For starters, it's called Tale of a fisherman and a fish, and it has nothing to do with goldfish. It's about a magic fish and the moral of the story is that the greedy can never be satisfied. However, it could also be used to explain why being a beta male never works...

In any case, if you think all Russian women are like that then you've been dating whores.

(02-05-2015 01:55 AM)MinskPlayer Wrote:  

Ee is good for sex and ugly rich men who are ok being used as wallets.

On that comment specifically: I usually hear it from two kinds of foreigners:

Deadbeats - the kind who are failures in life but manage to be quite popular with Anglosphere sluts, either through their looks or their clown game. They come to Russia expecting to clean up because of their popularity at home, but leave feeling jaded when they realise that playing jester doesn't work in Russia.

And wife-hunters, who are usually just older deadbeats.

[Bobkins]

friend of my (Ukrainian) was married to American woman.
I visited them 3 times in US.
It was horrible.
He had a landscaping business, worked 12 -14 hours everyday,
she did nothing. House is a mess. She always screams.
After 5 years they divorced, of course she ripped him off.