I've written about Oliver Reed before. And I know how much the forum enjoys nostalgia about America before the fall. Here are some clips from 1975 that I thoroughly enjoyed. They show part of Oliver Reed's 1975 appearance on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson.
Here's the first:
Carson asks Reed a question, and Reed responds with a joke. Winters, not content with someone else getting some attention, interrupts loudly. Reed expertly deals with her. After putting her down quickly, he turns away and continues talking to Carson. He answers seriously and then includes another dig at Winters, which he delivers while glaring at her with a smirk on his face. Winters then makes another outburst, and Reed responds sternly as if talking to a child. This shuts her up, for the time being.
This is just the introductory salvo between the two.
Unfortunately, the entire interview has disappeared from the web. During the rest of the interview up until the second clip, Reed and Carson discussed American culture, and in particular women's liberation. Reed disparaged the women's liberation movement (aka feminism), and Carson allowed him to explain his views. As the conversation went on, Winter left the couch and went backstage.
Such a conversation could never take place on a modern late night show, mostly because the topic has become forbidden and because late night programs nowadays typically avoid serious conversations.
This second clip came towards the end of the interview, where Reed explains his position:
Reed puts forth his ideas about ideas about the role of a man and of a woman, and the difficulties of family life with two working parents. His remarks received applause from the crowd, and Carson, nodding, approvingly calls his views "old-fashioned." That term is almost exclusively used as a negative today. He faces another interruption as Shelley Winters returns to the stage.
Winters then pours a glass of whiskey of on his head.
She is the prototype for the modern American woman-child. She has a sassy attitude, which was not yet common in those days. Married and divorced three times at this point in her life, she later wrote about her many affairs with famous men. In addition, she vocally supported feminist causes. And while she was a bloated cow in 1975, Winters, however, used to look like this.
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Which is a shame, considering how she looks in the clips above. She checks all the boxes for major flaws- obnoxious attitude, slut, attention whore, feminist, and fat.
Reed later made a career of outrageous , drunk appearances on late night shows. This incident with Winters wasn't even his only public clash with a feminist on TV.
Here's the first:
Carson asks Reed a question, and Reed responds with a joke. Winters, not content with someone else getting some attention, interrupts loudly. Reed expertly deals with her. After putting her down quickly, he turns away and continues talking to Carson. He answers seriously and then includes another dig at Winters, which he delivers while glaring at her with a smirk on his face. Winters then makes another outburst, and Reed responds sternly as if talking to a child. This shuts her up, for the time being.
This is just the introductory salvo between the two.
Unfortunately, the entire interview has disappeared from the web. During the rest of the interview up until the second clip, Reed and Carson discussed American culture, and in particular women's liberation. Reed disparaged the women's liberation movement (aka feminism), and Carson allowed him to explain his views. As the conversation went on, Winter left the couch and went backstage.
Such a conversation could never take place on a modern late night show, mostly because the topic has become forbidden and because late night programs nowadays typically avoid serious conversations.
This second clip came towards the end of the interview, where Reed explains his position:
Reed puts forth his ideas about ideas about the role of a man and of a woman, and the difficulties of family life with two working parents. His remarks received applause from the crowd, and Carson, nodding, approvingly calls his views "old-fashioned." That term is almost exclusively used as a negative today. He faces another interruption as Shelley Winters returns to the stage.
Winters then pours a glass of whiskey of on his head.
She is the prototype for the modern American woman-child. She has a sassy attitude, which was not yet common in those days. Married and divorced three times at this point in her life, she later wrote about her many affairs with famous men. In addition, she vocally supported feminist causes. And while she was a bloated cow in 1975, Winters, however, used to look like this.
Which is a shame, considering how she looks in the clips above. She checks all the boxes for major flaws- obnoxious attitude, slut, attention whore, feminist, and fat.
Reed later made a career of outrageous , drunk appearances on late night shows. This incident with Winters wasn't even his only public clash with a feminist on TV.
