[Every10GivesMeA10]

http://doccool.com/forum/

Mod of the site closed posting because of critics but I was just reading some stuff like:

Note AP= means affair partner
H= husband
OM= other men
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It's been my habit to not have physical contact with both H or MM within the same 24 hour period. I do this more because the idea of sleeping with either of them on the same day gives me bad vibes but also because it lessens the issues with residual left overs.
Beyond that I like body sprays …. I carry the one I've uses for years in my car just in case.

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definitely won't have sex with om within 24hrs of being with H. We both made that promise to each other. As for H, I try to avoid, but if I absolutely can't get out of it, I won't let him give me oral. I'll just make up some excuse. Hell if it comes down to it, he knows I'm a clean FREAK so I'll say I don't feel comfortable right now.
I keep baby wipes, lotion, and body wash when I see om.

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I have no problem with it what so ever. Embarassed I just shower normally after sex with OM and that's it. My H never noticed anything unussual.
Come on, few drops of semen (that may come after a normal shower) really can't be noticed. I think you are overreacting.

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I prefer not to have sex with both H and OM in the same day…but unfortunately…things happen.
1st time: about two months into affair, I had meet OM and spent about 4 hours together. That evening H arrived home and was allow over me. I was terrified…and pacified him with a BJ and telling him I thought I had a "yeast infection".
2nd time: about three weeks later and I was planning to meet OM that afternoon. DH came home around 10:00 AM and was feeling frisky….I did not have an excuse…so I gave him IC and finished him with a BJ. After H went on his way, I called OM and offered to change to another day….he was OK with it. He said he understood and still wanted to meet. So we did!!
3rd time: Just last week and the first time OM and I did not use a condom. We spent largest part of the day together and I got home…cooked dinner…did homework…got kids to bed and guess what? DH is wanting some loving….so I pulled him into the shower, using the excuse I had not showered since leaving the gym earlier in the day ;-0


It's full of threads like this.

There are multiple sub sections and i will give you few outtakes from sexuality section and thread name is dealing with semen:

http://doccool.com/forum/intimacy-and-se...ng-wsemen/

[Mack Four]

You guys really are missing the boat with whorish slut bombs.

1. They're better in bed
2. They're less judgmental about sex in general
3. They can't say shit to you about who you're screwing
4. Did I mention that they're better in bed?
   

[JoyStick]

haha. such sweet angelic snowflakes!

[pointbreak]

Interesting find.
The following thread off that forum should be required reading for all pedestalizing, nice-guy betas out there:
http://doccool.com/forum/intimacy-and-se...he-hottest

[Gmac]

All the more reason not to wife up a slut or former slut.

[Mack Four]

(08-05-2013 04:58 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

All the more reason not to wife up a slut or former slut.

Philosophical question...

Would it be better to have a wife who plays around on the side, but allows you to do the same, or a totally loyal wife who keeps your genitals in a jar on her nightstand? This is provided you believe in the idea of marriage to begin with.

Having been married, I'm not sure that the former isn't preferable to the latter.

[TheKantian]

(08-05-2013 05:04 PM)Mack Four Wrote:  

Philosophical question...

Would it be better to have a wife who plays around on the side, but allows you to do the same, or a totally loyal wife who keeps your genitals in a jar on her nightstand? This is provided you believe in the idea of marriage to begin with.

Having been married, I'm not sure that the former isn't preferable to the latter.

Except if she gets pregnant all hell will break lose.

"WHAT!? You want a DNA test, don't you trust me....I said it's yours." lol.

Allowing a wife to play around seems to me to undermine the whole relationship because of course she will look for the next best thing.

It's kind of like these dolts in an "open-relationship".

[Mack Four]

(08-05-2013 05:12 PM)TheKantian Wrote:  

Except if she gets pregnant all hell will break lose.

"WHAT!? You want a DNA test, don't you trust me....I said it's yours." lol.

Allowing a wife to play around seems to me to undermine the whole relationship because of course she will look for the next best thing.

It's kind of like these dolts in an "open-relationship".

Birth control is your responsibility. I've only had one child and I planned her. Gotta be smart with the dick, fellas.

As far as the next best thing, you gotta believe you are the next best thing. And if she doesn't, then guess what? There are at least 10 other chicks in town that look just like her and at least 5 of them are nicer or better in bed. At least two are both.

[A War You Cannot Win]

I believe there's a study out there that found the more sexual partners a woman has had the more marriage, the more likely the marriage will fail.

If I had to marry i'd just swoop some virginal SEA or EE woman and corrupt her.

[Therapsid]

(08-05-2013 05:39 PM)Mack Four Wrote:  

As far as the next best thing, you gotta believe you are the next best thing. And if she doesn't, then guess what? There are at least 10 other chicks in town that look just like her and at least 5 of them are nicer or better in bed. At least two are both.

That's fine, but if she believes you're the next best thing she wouldn't even be interested in having affairs in the first place.

I could never tolerate an open marriage, were I to get married of course to begin with. The vast majority of women are incapable of respecting a man who they cheat on, or as in this scenario, a man who allows them to openly sleep with other guys.

[Mack Four]

(08-05-2013 06:56 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

That's fine, but if she believes you're the next best thing she wouldn't even be interested in having affairs in the first place.

This is the premise that I'm just not sure about. A woman who likes sex, likes sex. That doesn't mean she's looking to trade in her husband. Many solid marriages survive infidelity.

As for respect, that's another question. The second a woman doesn't respect you, and it shows, you fire her ass. Period. But I don't agree with the premise that just because she went on a business trip and fell into bed with some dude she'll never see again (this is how wives generally do it, and why they're caught less often than husbands) doesn't mean she doesn't respect you. It may not be about you at all, it may just be for her.

I can't do monogamy myself. But I fall in love just the same. I've seen the open thing work and I've seen it fail. I think it depends on the people involved. I'll never put myself in a position to have only one woman ever again, though. Couldn't stand it.

[pump_and_romance]

Listen to what you're saying.

(08-05-2013 07:43 PM)Mack Four Wrote:  

just because she went on a business trip and fell into bed with some dude she'll never see again doesn't mean she doesn't respect you.

Uhm, yes it does.

[Mack Four]

(08-05-2013 08:15 PM)pump_and_romance Wrote:  

Listen to what you're saying.

(08-05-2013 07:43 PM)Mack Four Wrote:  

just because she went on a business trip and fell into bed with some dude she'll never see again doesn't mean she doesn't respect you.

Uhm, yes it does.

Interesting.

So let's take that reasoning a step further. If you cheat on her, that means you don't respect her?

[Goldin Boy]

(08-05-2013 05:04 PM)Mack Four Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 04:58 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

All the more reason not to wife up a slut or former slut.

Philosophical question...

Would it be better to have a wife who plays around on the side, but allows you to do the same, or a totally loyal wife who keeps your genitals in a jar on her nightstand? This is provided you believe in the idea of marriage to begin with.

Having been married, I'm not sure that the former isn't preferable to the latter.

Why would you let your wife keep your genitals in jar?

Men and women bring different things to the table in a marriage. Women usually expect resources/stability, men want chastity(to guarantee the kids are theirs).

If I had a wife and she cheated I divorce her ass ASAP. No chastity=no trust=no resources. She'd get nothing in the settlement as all my assets will be held in irrevocable living trusts.

[Mack Four]

(08-05-2013 08:25 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  

Why would you let your wife keep your genitals in jar?

This is where I was going with my last post to pump and romance.

You think you can have it both ways, but you really can't. It's alot harder to get a woman to accept your infidelities, while remaining completely chaste herself. It's sounds like a great plan, but even if you hold the financial purse strings it's much more difficult to implement than you think.

Also, women are exceptionally sneaky. Women tend to find evidence of infidelity, men are more often left to agonize over suspicions. Who wants to live that way?

If you can live with having your privates handcuffed, then fine, do the monogamous thing. But if you're going to be carousing behind her back, or in the open, know that being a woman she will respond in passive aggressive ways. Namely, having secret affairs. Now, I'm not discussing morality here. No judgements of right and wrong. I'm describing the reality of the situation on the ground.

[pump_and_romance]

You're buying the feminist "Why is it ok for a guy to sleep around but not for a girl??" idea.

The reality is that there are differences between male and female sexuality. There are also differences between what their expectations in a married relationship.

I'm not advocating that men cheat on their wives either. However, it's just not comparable.

[Goldin Boy]

[quote] (08-05-2013 08:35 PM)Mack Four Wrote:  

[quote='Goldin Boy' pid='506635' dateline='1375752345']


Why would you let your wife keep your genitals in jar?[/quote]

This is where I was going with my last post to pump and romance.

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You think you can have it both ways, but you really can't. It's alot harder to get a woman to accept your infidelities, [/quote]

Respectfully disagree. Having seen the huge fights my parents had when my she caught him creeping with a co-worker I know it isn't impossible. She found text messages and his condom stash (apparently they don't fuck anymore so she knew).

Granted the main reason she stayed is b/c at 48 Mom knows her SMV is in the basement and rationalized it away as "he's a good man/father" lol. My dad is 53, works out 3x weekly, doesn't drink/smoke and frankly looks like a man a decade his junior. He actually left and she begged him to come back.

And I can and will have it both ways: I want a son/family someday but I also want mistress too. I'll have homebody wife, the son in an all-boys boarding school, and I'll take "business" trips to Brazil and Thailand quarterly. I won't settle for less.

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Also, women are exceptionally sneaky. Women tend to find evidence of infidelity, men are more often left to agonize over suspicions. Who wants to live that way? [/quote]

I won't flaunt my lovers in her face. That's just rude.

It will be a tacitly understood thing. You might say this is impossible. And many guys think SNL's are impossible. A friend of mine told me don't day game parts of Queens b/c Asian girls hate Black guys.

Just being here puts us ahead of 80% of men. Why limit ourselves with Blue Pill think about women's intuition. They're not clairvoyant.

[Goldin Boy]

Respectfully disagree. Having seen the huge fights my parents had when my she caught him creeping with a co-worker I know it isn't impossible. She found text messages and his condom stash (apparently they don't fuck anymore so she knew).

And I can and will have it both ways: I want a son/family someday but I also want mistress too. I'll have homebody wife, the son in an all-boys boarding school, and I'll take "business" trips to Brazil and Thailand quarterly. I won't settle for less.

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Also, women are exceptionally sneaky. Women tend to find evidence of infidelity, men are more often left to agonize over suspicions. Who wants to live that way?

I won't flaunt my lovers in her face. That's just rude.

It will be a tacitly understood thing. You might say this is impossible. And many guys think SNL's are impossible. A friend of mine told me don't day game parts of Queens b/c Asian girls hate Black guys.

Just being here puts us ahead of 80% of men. Why limit ourselves with Blue Pill think about women's intuition. They're not clairvoyant.

[Mack Four]

(08-05-2013 09:01 PM)pump_and_romance Wrote:  

You're buying the feminist "Why is it ok for a guy to sleep around but not for a girl??" idea.

The reality is that there are differences between male and female sexuality. There are also differences between what their expectations in a married relationship.

I'm speaking from experience, my good man. Six years of marriage and a great many observations of adjacent marriages have taught me alot.

I think people get way to caught up in the morality and philosophy part rather than focusing on what works. I am a hardcore pragmatist. Not to start a political tangent, but Obamacare. Great idea from an ethical standpoint, but almost completely unworkable from a functionality standpoint.

It's great to have principles, and I applaud you for them. But you've got to be more realistic about what women actually are. They are reactionary, unreasonable and unstable under heavy emotional stress. She may hang on for awhile, but eventually she's going to talk to her friends about it and they're going to pour poison into her ear.

And again, who the hell wants all that stress of wondering. If you enjoy her company enough to marry her simply decide that you don't care and enjoy the time you spend together. In the end, isn't it about being happy?

[Mack Four]

(08-05-2013 09:05 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  

Respectfully disagree. Having seen the huge fights my parents had when my she caught him creeping with a co-worker I know it isn't impossible. She found text messages and his condom stash (apparently they don't fuck anymore so she knew).

And I can and will have it both ways: I want a son/family someday but I also want mistress too. I'll have homebody wife, the son in an all-boys boarding school, and I'll take "business" trips to Brazil and Thailand quarterly. I won't settle for less.

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Also, women are exceptionally sneaky. Women tend to find evidence of infidelity, men are more often left to agonize over suspicions. Who wants to live that way?

I won't flaunt my lovers in her face. That's just rude.

It will be a tacitly understood thing. You might say this is impossible. And many guys think SNL's are impossible. A friend of mine told me don't day game parts of Queens b/c Asian girls hate Black guys.

Just being here puts us ahead of 80% of men. Why limit ourselves with Blue Pill think about women's intuition. They're not clairvoyant.

Two things.

1. I'm not saying that having your cake and eating it too is impossible. I'm saying it's an exceptionally difficult trick to pull. On par with jumping the Grand Canyon on a motorcycle (RIP Mr Knievel).

2. You cannot know if your mother retaliated by cheating on your father. There is simply no way to know that for sure without a time machine, and that's the problem. I'd just as soon refuse to care as get caught in the suspicion trap.

[Menace]

A man can love a woman and bang other girls on the side. His "heart" is still with girl #1. This is of course not always the case, but it is eminently doable, especially by a man who understands the sexual dynamics of relationships. Once a girl decides to cheat on you, you are dead to her. Her "heart" is no longer with you. She can certainly make a good show of it, but inside it's over. This is how divorces often start.

Marriage is a challenge partly because it's inherent nature is both a bug and a feature: it is designed to promote stability, yet women actually crave (and need) a certain amount of instability. A roller coaster of emotions. They can't deal with calmness. They get bored easily. Maybe when they're post-menopausal they start to become more rational and less addicted to drama.

[pump_and_romance]

Mack Four:

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She may hang on for awhile, but eventually she's going to talk to her friends about it and they're going to pour poison into her ear.

For what? Note that I said:

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I'm not advocating that men cheat on their wives either.

Plus, Menace is correct; a woman cannot usually love/respect a man whom she is not being faithful to.

[Swooper]

Moral of the story: Don't wife up sluts lol. As for a banging marriage, it's not as hard as you guys think. In third world countries, it's standard for a successful married man with a faithful wife at home to have a mistress or girls on the side.

[Mack Four]

(08-05-2013 09:34 PM)Swooper Wrote:  

Moral of the story: Don't wife up sluts lol. As for a banging marriage, it's not as hard as you guys think. In third world countries, it's standard for a successful married man with a faithful wife at home to have a mistress or girls on the side.

But that's just it, I'm not talking about third world countries.

Now, if that's what you guys want to do then more power to you. I'm all for everyone finding their happy place. And for the record I'm not rooting against anyone either. I'm just trying to bring some perspective to bear about what marriage is really like.

[Teutatis]

Like Menace and others have said, men can love a woman and still sleep around with countless others, it won't make him respect her any more or less, but a woman who sleeps around with other men doesn't love and respect you.