[Tytalus]

A friend of mine is going through a bad spot right now and posting totally mangina comments on his face book like "nice guys finish last.... "

He doesn't go to clubs or try for 1 day lays. I read red pill and game stuff in the context of gaming my wife, not at all as a single guy. While I realize there's a bit of overlap... I'm not gonna fool myself either.

What is a good guide/ intro to women & day game that I can recommend to him? A book or website would be great.

[Tuthmosis]

Don't bother trying to "help" your friends. You won't change their mindset and they will end up hating or disrespecting you for the effort. They have to come to you, begging to learn after repeated rejections from you, before they're ready to accept the counter-intuitive realities of the red pill.

[WestIndianArchie]

(06-29-2013 01:43 PM)Tytalus Wrote:  

A friend of mine is going through a bad spot right now and posting totally mangina comments on his face book like "nice guys finish last.... "

He doesn't go to clubs or try for 1 day lays. I read red pill and game stuff in the context of gaming my wife, not at all as a single guy. While I realize there's a bit of overlap... I'm not gonna fool myself either.

What is a good guide/ intro to women & day game that I can recommend to him? A book or website would be great.

I could name a dozen good resources, (Day Bang and Bang by Roosh V would be my 1st *insert affiliate link*)

But the real issue here is a guy that is deeply embedded in our social system.

How do you get someone to take the red pill?

The Game doesn't seem to have a transformative book like
- the fountainhead for right wingers
- the communist manifesto for left wingers

Many avocations have these foundational type books - once you read them, you are forever changed.

Right now, Pick Up/Men's Rights/Manosphere/The Game - doesn't have that book.

The best we have is Strauss' The Game, but even that tame look @ what it's like to "date strategically" - and that convinced many, it's been so maligned and mis-interpreted that its pointless.

WIA

[RougeNoir]

(06-29-2013 01:43 PM)Tytalus Wrote:  

A friend of mine is going through a bad spot right now and posting totally mangina comments on his face book like "nice guys finish last.... "

He doesn't go to clubs or try for 1 day lays. I read red pill and game stuff in the context of gaming my wife, not at all as a single guy. While I realize there's a bit of overlap... I'm not gonna fool myself either.

What is a good guide/ intro to women & day game that I can recommend to him? A book or website would be great.

How do you feel since you've swallowed the red pill? I assume you became married prior to swallowing the red pill. Do you have any regrets? Do you think it's strengthening your marriage? If you would prefer, send me a PM.

[Sebastian]

a day game for a guy like that? hahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha

he is going to get crushed really hard and you will get blamed for it. I guarantee 100%.

[XXL]

if you really want to help him don't show him any kind of book or seminar or video etc. most likely he will label it as weird and will get much more defensive about the idea. instead...

- lead by example. show him personally it's not that hard to meet women. let him watch you.

- frame it as being go getter man who's confident enough to break the ice and spontaneous to do it without agenda. keep it vague and avoid details at all cost. you want your friend to view pickup not as picking up girls but just being social human being wanting to meet someone special [everybody wants that].

- avoid pua language

- don't force it. if he keeps resistant let go. he'll be probably very skeptic about it and remain like that until he sees some tangible benefits. expect token resistance.