[Roosh]

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An American woman was gang-raped Tuesday in the northern Indian resort town of Manali, police said.

The 30-year-old woman was picked up early Tuesday morning by men in a truck as she was hitchhiking back to her guest house after visiting a friend, police officer Sher Singh said.

The three men in the truck then drove to a secluded spot and raped her, he said. She went to police and they filed a rape case.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia...ml?hpid=z4

It must be said: what an idiot. This is what happens when you're raised in a culture to believe that you are not responsible for your personal safety. I'm a man with modest musculature and I wouldn't hitchhike into a car with three strange men.

Totally preventable and needless. She's lucky they didn't kill her.

[Travelsick]

Definitely poor judgment on her part.

But yet again a bunch of guys out of nowhere gang rape a woman just because they're presented with an opening.

There's so much wrong with indian society... stuff like this is just the tip of the iceberg. No quick fix either, there's a fundamental lack of respect for other human beings in india.

[The Patriarch]

Eat, pray, love the hard way.

30-year-old American woman should be busy nurturing her children, not getting together alone with dusty back alley strangers in remote and mountainous parts of India of all places.

Many of these western women travel on Asian Buddhist and Hindu trails to supposedly "find themselves" (under a watchful eye of her Facebook timeline of course) when real and natural finding involves no more than starting, nurturing and preserving a well-cared for family unit back home.

[Fredster]

As someone who has lived in India, I can definitely say that India has the most thirstiest men I have ever seen. The white knighting and feminism is extremely high.Also there are a huge number of beta males, even the alphas act all beta.

This isn't the first time I have heard this.

My cousin's son, a buff 6'2 young Indian dude with a handsome face, married a fat land whale....and his family is richer than her family...I almost puked. Could not believe this.This guy could pull amazing pussy from from the Ukraine.

[DBCooper]

(06-04-2013 06:50 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

It must be said: what an idiot. This is what happens when you're raised in a culture to believe that you are not responsible for your personal safety. I'm a man with modest musculature and I wouldn't hitchhike into a car with three strange men.

Totally preventable and needless. She's lucky they didn't kill her.

Precisely. The naivety is baffling. Even guys who can handle themselves are wary of strangers, more so in situations like this.

[Blaster]

The problem is almost certainly that when these men went to college they didn't attend seminars where they are taught not to rape. They just didn't realize that no means no.

[anamericaninbangkok]

(06-04-2013 07:16 AM)The Patriarch Wrote:  

Eat, pray, love the hard way.

30-year-old American woman should be busy nurturing her children, not getting together alone with dusty back alley strangers in remote and mountainous parts of India of all places.

Many of these western women travel on Asian Buddhist and Hindu trails to supposedly "find themselves" (under a watchful eye of her Facebook timeline of course) when real and natural finding involves no more than starting, nurturing and preserving a well-cared for family unit back home.

Eat, pray, and fuck.

Have you ever seen the chick who wrote the book? She's a crazy bitch.

[A War You Cannot Win]

This what happens when you a baby certain members of a population. They walk around blithely unaware, unconcerned about their own safety. I'm a pretty imposing guy with armed and unarmed combat experience and I still wouldn't hitch a ride with 3 dipshits I didn't know in some backwoods cesspool part of a strange country.

[Tuthmosis]

(06-04-2013 06:50 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

This is what happens when you're raised in a culture to believe that you are not responsible for your personal safety.

This.

Also, this is what happens when you combine the world's thirstiest dudes (especially for white girls) and the world's most delusionally girl-powered women in the world.

[The Fantasist]

(06-04-2013 07:16 AM)The Patriarch Wrote:  

Eat, pray, love the hard way.

30-year-old American woman should be busy nurturing her children, not getting together alone with dusty back alley strangers in remote and mountainous parts of India of all places.

Disagree.

Why should they not travel? Why do they have to settle down and raise a family at 30? That means that conversely you are implying men should be settling down with these women at 30. Women have as much right to go have adventures and seek knowledge as the rest of us.

What she should not be doing is not hitch hiking lifts in India and getting into lorries with three Indian dudes ( I'd be sceptical however of the truth in this - Indian media sources are notorious for putting spin on the story to preserve the nation's image - tourist industry ). Idiotic thing to do and despite her no doubt having suffered a horrendous ordeal at the hands of three IRTs a large part of me is thinking "what the fuck did you expect".

Lesson learnt and hopefully she did not contract the HIV that a huge percentage of truck driver's have in India from all the whores they bang on the road.

[Menace]

She did 4 big things wrong in combination: (1) travelling alone, (2) in northern India (the most backward part of India where all of these rapes are happening), (3) hitchhiked, (4) got into car with 3 men.

If any one of these things was missing, she might have avoided this fate. You almost have to be willfully stupid to get into such trouble.

[WanderingSoul]

(06-04-2013 06:50 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

It must be said: what an idiot. This is what happens when you're raised in a culture to believe that you are not responsible for your personal safety. I'm a man with modest musculature and I wouldn't hitchhike into a car with three strange men.

Totally preventable and needless. She's lucky they didn't kill her.

And If I was in the situation where I needed a ride that bad, I would be watching my back the entire time. I do that in the states, let alone in the backwoods of India.

A girl shouldn't even fuckin THINK about doing this. You can see it's a terrible idea from a mile away. It probably didn't even cross her mind that it was a bad idea until she realized "Oh shit, why are we turning off onto this dirt road?"

I feel bad for the girl, but she's a fuckin moron.

[el mechanico]

I'm understanding India less and less. Is there pussy to be had there or not??

The thing I notice about girls here is they have a magical idea of what India actually is like it's full of wisdom and spirituality. They may go and expect the people to be cool and trustworthy but in reality you're going to get..

As for Americans who put creep factor on a high priority of things they don't like I can't understand why they would travel in the white girl creepy worst case scenario...

But, the cobra is out of the vase now so India if you're reading..Kiss your white female tourists goodbye..

[Therapsid]

Eh, the media keeps playing up these rape stories in India. But if you look for cold hard statistics, there's no numbers to back it up. On any international survey India does not come out high in terms of rapes per capita. For that matter, the same is true for Arab countries.

Okay, you can say they're being undercounted in these countries. Fine, but that's just plausible conjecture, nothing more. I'd say be suspicious whenever a trend has been picked up the media. After the high-profile bus incident in New Delhi last year this has been a big meme. I say, show the statistics that this actually a major problem. I'd ask the same question whenever the U.S. media tries to play up white hate crimes, when most hate crimes are not even committed by whites.

[Tornado]

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It must be said: what an idiot. This is what happens when you're raised in a culture to believe that you are not responsible for your personal safety.

Totally preventable and needless. She's lucky they didn't kill her.

Completely agree. It reminds me of the three women that were kidnapped by Ariel Castro and imprisoned in his home for 10 years.All three women willing got into his car after he offered them a ride "home". I feel bad for what happen to them, but to say they are not responsible to what happen is false.

[Menace]

(06-04-2013 10:40 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I'm understanding India less and less. Is there pussy to be had there or not??

The thing I notice about girls here is they have a magical idea of what India actually is like it's full of wisdom and spirituality. They may go and expect the people to be cool and trustworthy but in reality you're going to get..

There is (effectively) no pussy to be had.

Western white girls are totally seduced by Hindu spiritualism, yoga, and all that crap. They will go India and live in some filthy ashram to study yoga from Sri sri sri Trollamangapuram.

There are certain villages/cities in India where people are dedicated to this stuff. For example, Auroville in Southern India. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auroville) I have been there. There is a temple there that looks like Epcot center. You line up to see some mystical experience but it is just a huge glass/crystal ball with a light shining on it from the ceiling in a dark room, i.e. bullshit.

In fact, I am amazed IRT's don't leverage their roots to use guru game...it's chick crack for a certain segment of their coveted white girl demographic.

Now, don't get me wrong, I actually like India despite all of its shortcomings, but I have a realistic view of the place. The people can be exceptionally kind and welcoming, the food is great (don't drink the water of course), and there is a lot to see and experience.

[Timoteo]

(06-04-2013 10:53 AM)Tornado Wrote:  

(06-04-2013 06:50 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

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It must be said: what an idiot. This is what happens when you're raised in a culture to believe that you are not responsible for your personal safety.

Totally preventable and needless. She's lucky they didn't kill her.

Completely agree. It reminds me of the three women that were kidnapped by Ariel Castro and imprisoned in his home for 10 years.All three women willing got into his car after he offered them a ride "home". I feel bad for what happen to them, but to say they are not responsible to what happen is false.

Herein lies the problem. After we get done showering the victim with sympathy, we refuse to publicly have this discussion. It's always decried as blaming the victim. Well...there were things the victim did to place herself in a situation where harm could come to her. If a woman is going to travel alone to certain places, there are certain precautions she should be taking. Hell, if she's going to travel ANYWHERE alone, she should be conscious of safety. It could be a teachable moment, but we waste it because we can't have an honest discussion.

[Muk]

and to even suggest personal responsibility is considered "omg blaming the victimz!"

[el mechanico]

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In fact, I am amazed IRT's don't leverage their roots to use guru game

If I was IRT I would play it to death then play it some more. Ironically it only really works on white girls.

[speeddemon]

Honestly, do you guys think this type of stuff is limited to India?

I have read quite a few stories of tourists (male and female) getting killed in forum hotspots like Columbia, Thailand and Brazil.

There is a even website dedicated to tourists who have died under suspicious circumstances in Thailand.

[Exactaking]

Indian intelligence is overrated as well. I know theres like a billion of them so obviously the left side of the bell curve is well represented, but how come Bombay, despite being a influenced by British rule like Hong Kong and Singapore, is a shithole, while the latter are probably the most developed and functioning cities in the world? Food for Thought.

[Sherman]

Where are the feminists to defend Indian women?

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4444810.html

[NY Digital]

its overrated because only the smart/wealthy ones get over to America.

[The Fantasist]

(06-04-2013 11:03 AM)Menace Wrote:  

There is (effectively) no pussy to be had.

Western white girls are totally seduced by Hindu spiritualism, yoga, and all that crap. They will go India and live in some filthy ashram to study yoga from Sri sri sri Trollamangapuram.

There are certain villages/cities in India where people are dedicated to this stuff. For example, Auroville in Southern India. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auroville) I have been there. There is a temple there that looks like Epcot center. You line up to see some mystical experience but it is just a huge glass/crystal ball with a light shining on it from the ceiling in a dark room, i.e. bullshit.

In fact, I am amazed IRT's don't leverage their roots to use guru game...it's chick crack for a certain segment of their coveted white girl demographic.

Now, don't get me wrong, I actually like India despite all of its shortcomings, but I have a realistic view of the place. The people can be exceptionally kind and welcoming, the food is great (don't drink the water of course), and there is a lot to see and experience.

Such a good point.

I used to meet western female tourists in India all the time who had 'Gurus' in Varanassi or Pushkar or Pune, it was hilarious. They came with this image of Indian's somehow being on another level spiritually and that any old rickshaw wallah had the keys to enlightenment. AND the gurus were banging these chicks! Stunning Israeli chicks or Swiss architecture students getting banged by some guy with dirty finger nails and shabby juti on their feet all because he could recite some poem from the Rig Veda and tap out a tune on the Tabla. Fucking unbelievable especially since I was struggling to get any pussy at times! I should have browned myself up a little.

As you said the guru path is the way to go for IRTs around the world. It's a winning ticket for fresh out of university chicks in search of enlightenment.

[Swooper]

Great posts guys. Yeah this pretty much falls under the "WTF Did You Think Would Happen?" category.