[WestIndianArchie]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazi...nted=print

Way too long to swipe.

Some choice quotes.

"Later, after her appointment, she told me that in fact she has orgasms pretty much every time she and her husband have sex — that wasn’t the problem. “There’s something that’s stopping me from wanting it,” she said. “I don’t know what it is. I can’t tell you what it is.” "

". Viagra meddles with the arteries; it causes physical shifts that allow the penis to rise. A female-desire drug would be something else. It would adjust the primal and executive regions of the brain. It would reach into the psyche. "

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The Hamster is strong throughout.

WIA

[Timoteo]

Great piece. I was actually impressed that there were women that stepped up and admitted that the problem with desire was theirs, and that it wasn't something their partner did that was causing the problem. They recognized a problem, and wanted to find a solution to make things better in their relationships.

These quotes struck me in particular...

Quote:

“Many couples confuse love with merging,” she writes. “This mix-up is a bad omen for sex. To sustain élan toward the other, there must be a synapse to cross. Eroticism requires distance.”

Women continually do this. They romanticize relationships to an extreme that simply isn't possible. I always tell people that when you marry, you become THREE, not ONE. You have your individual selves, and then you have the couple. You have to leave room for the individuals.

Quote:

"Tuiten didn’t openly acknowledge monogamy as the core of the desire problem, but he knew he couldn’t use single subjects who might well find new lovers during the course of the trials. Their results might have to be tossed out because, with or without chemical aids, new lovers bring surges of lust."

Ah yes...the thrill of new pussy/dick! When the one you're with starts to bore you, hunt down some strange...

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"Wiring women’s necks and forearms to what they are told is a polygraph machine while they fill out surveys about their sex lives, their answers then compared with those of women who aren’t wired up — and compared in turn with the responses of men. These are all attempts to see around or beneath the societal messages and cultural influences that may distort women’s sexuality and constrain its expression, even in our seemingly unconstrained times. (Yes, the lie detector had a much bigger effect on the women than the men, greatly increasing the number of partners women said they’d had sex with.)"

Yep...women lie about the notch count if they don't think you'll know differently. To be fair, a lot of dudes will inflate theirs...HA HA!

[Laner]

Champagne and blow seems to be the best "Viagra for women" that I know of. Makes them feel like a princess. A very important and smart princess.

[cardguy]

Just read about this in The Daily Mail.

Here is an interesting quote:

Quote:

A lack of libido is a common problem, with an astonishing 30 per cent of women claiming to have no sex drive at all, according to the Sexual Advice Association.

I wonder why women have such low sex drives? The figure given above may be lower than reality since alot of women are ashamed of their lack of interest in sex.

My instinct is to say it is Evolution's way of getting women to think more clearly about who to choose as the father of their kids.

Imagine if guys were not interested in sex? If you wanted to start a family - you would think do what girls do and pick the richest person you could find.

[MMM]

“Consider the lengths to which scientists go to try to understand the workings of female desire: Using a laboratory gadget that measures vaginal blood flow while women watch varieties of pornography. Having women wear headgear that tracks the precise movement of their pupils, hundreds of times per second, as they gaze at X-rated images. Studying female hamsters [Wait?! What?! What did I just read?! Hamster?!] and even arachnids mating as a way to glean insight into women’s sexual psyches.”

[Surreyman]

(05-23-2013 12:06 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

I wonder why women have such low sex drives?

Because they're surrounded by sexless betas, probably.

Look around you, most men are not exciting. Especially the middle aged types, whose interests are limited to spandex-clad cycling and single malts. That shit does nothing for women.

[Kabal]

The desperation that comes with hitting the wall and knowing you'll soon be sexually obsolete is nature's Viagra for women.

[Timoteo]

Another thing they touched on that absolutely kills passion, is familiarity breeding contempt. Just being near each other so much, getting on each other's nerves. You never get a chance to miss each other. Instead, you're looking forward to the opposite - getting away from them. And when you're away, you're not really missing them, but dreading going back. The smartest couples always do their own thing, some going so far as to take separate vacations, as well as vacations together. They give each other a chance to miss each other, and that can stoke the furnace.

[WestIndianArchie]

(05-23-2013 06:53 PM)Surreyman Wrote:  

(05-23-2013 12:06 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

I wonder why women have such low sex drives?

Because they're surrounded by sexless betas, probably.

Look around you, most men are not exciting. Especially the middle aged types, whose interests are limited to spandex-clad cycling and single malts. That shit does nothing for women.

^^Blaming men for lack of female interest.

[cardguy]

Actually I remember Louis CK making a similar point in one of his specials.

Still - I would trouble to have a sex drive with alot of the women stuck in long marriages. So - it works both ways.

But women still have lower sex drives since it is not like they are using vibrators and fantasizing instead. A third of them (at the very least) just switch off all together. Or never even had it in the first place.

Again - I think it is evolution at work. And evolution's way of trying to ensure responsible mothers. Just another reason why being a woman is so dull.

[Therapsid]

Women aren't supposed to have the same sex drives as men. Every survey of men and women reveals that the female gender thinks of sex much less often than men, is much less likely to have casual sex, is less disposed to consume pornography, and is more comfortable being celibate for extended periods of time.

Women have no evolutionary impulse to reproduce during nine full months of pregnancy. Imagine over the course of evolution how multiple periods of nine month sterility for each woman would impact female libido. It goes without saying that it'd be extraordinarily feeble compared to that of men, which is indeed what we observe.

[WestIndianArchie]

(05-23-2013 11:29 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

Women aren't supposed to have the same sex drives as men. Every survey of men and women reveals that the female gender thinks of sex much less often than men, is much less likely to have casual sex, is less disposed to consume pornography, and is more comfortable being celibate for extended periods of time.

^hasn't consumed the red pill.
^^never been near the secret society

WIA

[Therapsid]

(05-23-2013 11:42 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(05-23-2013 11:29 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

Women aren't supposed to have the same sex drives as men. Every survey of men and women reveals that the female gender thinks of sex much less often than men, is much less likely to have casual sex, is less disposed to consume pornography, and is more comfortable being celibate for extended periods of time.

^hasn't consumed the red pill.
^^never been near the secret society

WIA

You really think chicks have the same sex drive as men? Take a girl who just slept with a George Clooney-type alpha two seconds ago. Is she gonna wanna screw a new good looking dude the next second just because? Nope. But her male counterpart would be open to it. We'd bang new beautiful women until the point of physical exhaustion.

And males of every wild animal behave the same way. Male deer, lions, lizards, salmon etc. will fucking die trying to mate with as many females as possible. Meanwhile, the females will run away from and physically contest male advances until the best physical specimen, i.e. the alpha male, comes along.

[AnonymousBosch]

Quote:

“There’s a bias against — a fear of creating the sexually aggressive woman.”

Creating?



I feel like there's the women I meet on a daily basis, and this whole other race of women of the sort that the media constantly describes that I've somehow never managed to bump into.

You want to trigger sexual aggression from a woman? Put a desperate woman in front of a man far out of her league. That's all cougars are. The last woman I picked up for a date started feeling my biceps and rubbing my cock through my jeans before we even left her house in front of her teenage daughter, who was doing the standard eye roll thing, and said "Mum, you're being embarrassing!" in her best vocal fry. It killed any interest in claiming the notch. Train wreck family.

[Glock]

The question here is whether flagging female desire is caused by beta-ization of attached men or whether this is inherent and inevitable.

I believe it's because the guys become complacent and beta.

[Glock]

There's almost no information about how her man is behaving now that they're together, but the evidence strongly indicates that she is physically just fine but her drive is destroyed by her relationship -- which probably means he has become too beta to excite her.

[AnonymousBosch]

(10-02-2013 04:38 PM)Consul Wrote:  

The question here is whether flagging female desire is caused by beta-ization of attached men or whether this is inherent and inevitable.

I believe it's because the guys become complacent and beta.

I'd agree. I usually hear their boyfriend / husbands are 'boring' and 'don't excite them'. I read that as Feminised and Beta.

[iknowexactly]

I had a girlfriend i lived with and I stopped wanting sex with her. She was bitchy and so irritable that I couldn't talk to her about the irritability or it just started another bitching fit.

I think a lot of guys are stuck in situations like that if they're not players. The women have no insight into the fact their disagreeable personality and behavior is pushing the guy away.

No one can tell them anything. I know I just started sleeping in another room, and the bitch was too dumb to ask what she did wrong.

A lot of women just can't see that they're being bitches. Strong, Independent woman/bitch is supopsed to be an OK way of dealing with men in wealthy countries.

And about beta-ization-- I like being dominant with a woman that can accept it. I'm not going to waste the effort with a woman who's just a stone bitch and doesn't even like being spanked or being submissive. It's like speaking in a language she has no ability to understand.

[Gmac]

Women absolutely have the same drive as men, they just don't always act on it as often or in the same ways. My girl will straight up tell me she's feeling "frisky" a few times a week minimum. The difference is sex comes easy to women, it's just a matter of location, circumstance, and saying "okay."