[pitt]

Nice replies, i would be glad if someone could throw me some advise.

I tend to feel tired and weak when i dont work out for a day or two (it gets worse the less i work out), when i didnt work out years ago, i used to feel tired and weak most of the time, i wonder what is my problem.

I doubt that this is Low T because i am usually a very horny guy, so horny that i need to have sex everyday. If i dont have sex for a day, i masturbate and that shit fucks up my day because it gives me low energy and i don't become so productive. I used to blame part of the tiredness on masturbation but today i found it weird that i haven't masturbated in the last few days and i felt kinda tired and weak (today), maybe because i didnt work out today but i doubt a normal person will feel tired and weak because he didn't work out for a day.

Can anybody suggest me something? I really wish my level of energy was better.

[choichoi]

Im using mucuna pruriens, also known as velvet bean, in powdered from this ayurvedic herbs company. From what ive researched it has a host of benefits including testosterone improvements, muscle growth, bone density and better mood. Ive uses it for 3 days now and I feel alot more driven now. Dont know if its a placebo effect but we'll see as time progresses.

[Nascimento]

(05-25-2013 11:00 PM)pitt Wrote:  

Nice replies, i would be glad if someone could throw me some advise.

I tend to feel tired and weak when i dont work out for a day or two (it gets worse the less i work out), when i didnt work out years ago, i used to feel tired and weak most of the time, i wonder what is my problem.

I doubt that this is Low T because i am usually a very horny guy, so horny that i need to have sex everyday. If i dont have sex for a day, i masturbate and that shit fucks up my day because it gives me low energy and i don't become so productive. I used to blame part of the tiredness on masturbation but today i found it weird that i haven't masturbated in the last few days and i felt kinda tired and weak (today), maybe because i didnt work out today but i doubt a normal person will feel tired and weak because he didn't work out for a day.

Can anybody suggest me something? I really wish my level of energy was better.

Try and control your sexual energy. Try a month or two where your only way to release is through sex. So that might leave you days/weeks depending on your current situation without it.

Sexual energy build up is what you are looking for. This will give you increased energy, stronger workouts, and more intense sex.

[Orson]

(05-09-2013 08:28 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(05-09-2013 08:15 PM)Wayout Wrote:  

Been through this for many years and tried testosterone therapy. Basically it's not worth it! You get easily get testosterone prescribed and get it up into 900-1200 in about a week. See if you like it. Your body will stop naturally produce testosterone and starts producing estrogen instead. You will develop female tits if you continue using Testosterone. You will also absorb lots of it in your hair follicles and eventually start balding. Your skin will take a hit and you will look much older.
You body makes enough T. There is actually no NORMAL reading....everyone is different.
It's safe though to try it for a week or two.

Got a link to studies supporting your claims?

I see an internist who uses TRT on himself. He prefers HCG (Human Chorionic Gonandotropin) and compounded Testosterone gel, absorbed through the skin.

I tell men wondering "if I have low-T?" to do a month's trial on some herbal known to adjust Testosterone/estradiol levels first. (Weight lifting sites are filled with discussions about both how to diagnose and treat it - some of which may apply to you.)

For example, the bark called Tribulus Terrestris (sp?) can increase T.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribulus_terrestris
Buy it fresh at GNC, and take four times a day for a few weeks.

Likewise, Tongak Ali capsules can affect estradiol levels, thus increasing the positive T-levels profile. (Sourcing Tongak Ali can be dodgier, but I know a website that helps sort out the good and reliable from the bad, leading to the best prices.)

The point is that if you get a good benefit from OTC herbs like these, then you ought to go off them and find a doctor to test and treat your situation well. Otherwise, you're just wasting time and money with guess work.

[Acute Angle]

(05-28-2013 01:54 AM)Orson Wrote:  

... but I know a website that helps sort out the good and reliable from the bad, leading to the best prices.)

Link?

[dk902]

(05-10-2013 05:16 AM)Mark Minter Wrote:  

I have a book for you. I don't know to get it to you but we can work something out. The book is called [correction] The Hour Between Dog and Wolf and it is all about testosterone. It focuses on Wall Street traders and explains the biology that is going in their bodies as they undergo risk, have periods of success, and face periods of loss. The form is a RAR file that decompresses to an EPUB doc. Firefox has an add on that will read it straight from the browser. I used an online RAR decompression utility and it worked fine. I am reading the book right now.

This is an excellent book.

I am on my second reading of it. There's so much information to grasp the first time around, it's worth sitting on it for a few months then reading it again. The book is so interesting that this isn't a problem.

Whilst the backdrop is Wall Street for the story and how trading the markets affects human physiology, it is well-written so that even if you're not familiar with the workings of hedge funds and investment banks you still understand it.

What's more he applies the science behind it to various sports scenarios too.

The book gives a great insight into how the human body works, and how different parts interact via highly complex chemical reactions. You find yourself reading and getting many 'aha' moments when he explains the reasoning behind the many habitual things that we do on a daily basis.

Above all it did reinforce to me the notion of our brains becoming experts at certain subjects, provided it has enough experience in it - i.e. practice makes perfect. And why when you're on a winning streak it feels like you can never come down and vice versa.

Recommended reading for everyone.

[anamericaninbangkok]

I had a physical when I was around 46-47 and my testosterone was low. Since then I get a shot every three weeks. Costs me around $30 a pop. It makes difference and apparently receiving injections is better than taking testosterone tablets.

[anabolics]

Get into anabolic state bro.... stop reading tolle..

[heavy]

Bump...I did a morning testosterone test last week and sent it in. Got it back yesterday...75 pg/mL

The chart said it's low but normal, but if I'm understanding correctly, that's incredibly low. 75 pg/mL = 75 ng/dL.

WTF any input fellas?

Edit: If you look at me, you'd never think low T. I'm about as cut as they come naturally, and with lifting, I have muscle definition and the coveted V-look. (I'm speaking from a point of humility here, obviously I tested my T for a reason, and I'm admitting it's low, so my point is not to brag.)

Edit2: I've found in my life T levels are just like "alpha"...very situational (except for a small % of population). When I feel like I'm in-fucking-charge, I can feel the T pumping. I suspect my T levels are a sign of my life right now, which is at a job I don't like, sitting all day, which comprises 40 hrs of my life per week.

[Spectrumwalker]

I ordered some "Andro-Plus" that you see advertised on different blogs to be delivered to me here in Peru. I've started up crossfit again, and with the T gel, when it gets here, I'm hoping that will be the missing link. I need something, I still feel like an old ass man. I can only ever go one round a night with my girl. After I just want to sleep.

Anyone know anything about andro plus or tried it? I'm a bit skeptical but figured it's worth a try. Aside from a couple blog posts there's no mention of that company on any T or lifting forums or anywhere else I've looked.

[el conquistador]

This guy is an ex-navy seal and now a physician.He talks a lot about improving performance by improving sleep.

This video/podcast is about how not sleeping 8-9 hours lowers your testosterone.

I eat really well, lift and do supplements so I had tried most options to increase my testosterone. Since I listened to this podcast I've been going to bed a 10 every night.

[192]

Hi guys,

Don't wanna thread hijack but just got my blood work back and hoping someone can help me interpret the results.

Have tried using various conversion calculators on the net but still confused as fairly new to all this.

Context : Decided to get full blood work done on test, thyroid, kidney etc etc as a base line as I'm getting to the age where I shoukd keep an eye on these things.

Stats :

Age 39
Height 6'3
Weight 84kg
Bodd fat haven't measured but guessing around 15%, some visible definition but a belly that's hard to get rid of

Currently working out HIT style full body three times a week plus a couple of krav maga sessions.

Diet is reasonable, lowish carb and plenty of decent fats and protein.

Supplementing with vit d 2d 2000 iu per day plus around 50mg zinc.
Power stances a few times a day
Raw dog where possible :p

My test results:

Free testo (cal) 651 pmol/L

Testosterone 35.2 nmol/L

Now, when the do talked me thru this these results were bolded red as they were over current reference range, he actually warned me about hair loss....

I converted the free test online and it came out at 1015 ng/do which I think is pretty high?

I'm not sure what the 35.2 means?

I also read about something called SHBG that may effect this?

Anyone with expertise a heads up on the overall result would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

[Merenguero]

I recently had my testosterone levels checked. Total testosterone was 556 and I'm 37. The blood was drawn at 6:00 P.M., but I slept until about 1:00 P.M. on the day the blood was drawn and I ate a pretty big meal at about 2:00 P.M. on that day. I'm reading some conflicting things, but 556 appears to be about average for a guy in his 50's or 60's and a little low, although within the normal range, for a 37 year old. Because my level falls within the normal range, the doctor did not want to prescribe TRT, and that made sense to me. I would, however, like to to anything I possibly can to increase my levels. I have been doing hard cardio ever day since 2001 and have been lifting weights almost every day for a year and a half. I've also been getting as much sleep as I possibly can for the past year and a half. I take zinc, L-Argenine, and a testosterone booster (I know that there is some debate as to how effective testosterone boosters are), and just started eating Brazil nuts and almonds. I also eat a good amount of fish, chicken, and beef. I have a varicocele, which may reduce my levels somewhat. Does anyone have any thoughts?

[rdvirus]

Curious if anyone who has low testosterone has experienced ANY sort of head trauma at any point prior to blood work. Apparently there is a strong correlation between the two.. can elaborate more but curious if anyone has experienced both head trauma and low T.

[ThrustMaster]

(01-20-2015 01:06 AM)rdvirus Wrote:  

Curious if anyone who has low testosterone has experienced ANY sort of head trauma at any point prior to blood work. Apparently there is a strong correlation between the two.. can elaborate more but curious if anyone has experienced both head trauma and low T.

The most likely correlation is that your Hypothalamus and Pituitary are located in yer noggin. HPTA is king.

[civpro]

I got my first test recently. I am 30 years old.

268 ng/dl.

Yep.

[Gas]

Just got tested. 556 ng/dl. Late 20's.

As far as I understand 600 is average and as a young man in his 20's you'd want to be closer to 800-1,000, putting my levels at LOW.

Definitely don't want TRT at this age - will be trying to change up diet and exercise to lift this level naturally. Anyone got experience to share?

[CleanSlate]

I'm on TRT and have been for 2 months. My T was in the low 300s, and now my recent labs show it in the low 700's now. I take t-cyp 75 mg twice weekly along with HCG. HUGE difference. Prior to TRT, nothing worked - clean diet, exercise, supplements, nothing. Now I'm getting morning erections on a regular basis, and the "itch" is back.

Curious, anyone on peaktestosterone.com?

[TheWastelander]

So last Friday I got blood work done to make sure my cholesterol levels are good. I also had the doctor add testosterone to the lab request. Blood specimen was collected at 4PM. I am 28 years old.

Here's my result:

Testosterone

Range: 168 - 780 ng/dL
Value: 320.80

Is that good? Bad?

[Merenguero]

(01-29-2015 06:45 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

So last Friday I got blood work done to make sure my cholesterol levels are good. I also had the doctor add testosterone to the lab request. Blood specimen was collected at 4PM. I am 28 years old.

Here's my result:

Testosterone

Range: 168 - 780 ng/dL
Value: 320.80

Is that good? Bad?

It's real bad. I am lower than I should be for my age (37) and the range was still 241-827 back in November 2014. I think I have naturally increased my levels since then. Did the doctor talk to you about going on TRT?

[TheWastelander]

(01-29-2015 06:55 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(01-29-2015 06:45 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

So last Friday I got blood work done to make sure my cholesterol levels are good. I also had the doctor add testosterone to the lab request. Blood specimen was collected at 4PM. I am 28 years old.

Here's my result:

Testosterone

Range: 168 - 780 ng/dL
Value: 320.80

Is that good? Bad?

It's real bad. I am lower than I should be for my age (37) and the range was still 241-827 back in November 2014. I think I have naturally increased my levels since then. Did the doctor talk to you about going on TRT?

He's my GP. He said the results were excellent, which turned out to be true for the cholesterol but I guess that's not the case for the testosterone.

[TheWastelander]

I took Mike Cernovich's advice he wrote here: http://www.dangerandplay.com/2014/02/28/...one-level/ and ordered a male hormone panel through Private MD Labs last night. I took the requisition papers down to the lab this morning and got my blood drawn. When I get the results I'll let you guys know what's up.

[TheWastelander]

I got my test results back. This test was done around 7AM last Friday. Since then I've eliminated drinking from plastic bottles, I'm getting better sleep, I'm eating almonds and have started the No Fap plan. I'm getting morning wood again. Here they are below:



I'm not really sure why my lymphocyte counts are high, but it could've been from the TDAP booster I got a few days before this test. And what does it mean to have high free testosterone but average total testosterone?

[Checkmat]

(01-30-2015 08:40 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

I took Mike Cernovich's advice he wrote here: http://www.dangerandplay.com/2014/02/28/...one-level/ and ordered a male hormone panel through Private MD Labs last night. I took the requisition papers down to the lab this morning and got my blood drawn. When I get the results I'll let you guys know what's up.

How much did it cost you?

EDIT: Nvm, looks like it runs close to $200 :/
http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lab_tests.p...arch=#1033

[TheWastelander]

(02-07-2015 01:25 AM)Checkmat Wrote:  

(01-30-2015 08:40 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

I took Mike Cernovich's advice he wrote here: http://www.dangerandplay.com/2014/02/28/...one-level/ and ordered a male hormone panel through Private MD Labs last night. I took the requisition papers down to the lab this morning and got my blood drawn. When I get the results I'll let you guys know what's up.

How much did it cost you?

EDIT: Nvm, looks like it runs close to $200 :/
http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lab_tests.p...arch=#1033

It was $150 with discount code HEALTHY12. You can get the female hormone panel one for $50 that will measure test and what not.