[Prosal]

(07-12-2013 09:03 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Prosal - you are very well travelled my man, did I miss your list?

Admittedly, many guys here are much more well-travelled than me. I've been just in a few countries, but I have been there repeatedly, and my expertise pretty much stops at Brasil, Indonesia, very few parts of the FSU (just very few parts, FSU covering a sixth of the Earth's land surface), plus a few other places.

Anyway I wouldn't rate a city, but more a region. My choice would be a priori the Caucasus region for white-skinned brunettes, Russia (yes, I know it is vast)) and Central Asia (especially Uzbekistan) for all the types you can dream about, and, for girls with exotic features, Indonesia for asians and Cape Verde for mulatas. If you urge me to name three cities, I'd say Tashkent, Moscow and Moscow. ))

I would be curious to know what Vorkuta's opinion on this matter is.

[thegmanifesto]

(07-12-2013 06:07 AM)Eastbound Wrote:  

I am really surprised by all the praise Miami is getting. I grew up near there and that's simply not my impression. First of all, large swaths of the city are a ghetto. Yea, there are hot women to be found but the average is not good. Gold-digger mentality is everywhere. If you are drowning in cash, its a nice place to live but that applies anywhere. Imo, one of the most overrated cities in the world.

In all fairness, we are not talking about Opa-locka at 2 am.

Have you been to Miami recently?

Where do you hang out there? Bust out a list of bars, restaurants and clubs that you hang out in and I will steer you in the right direction.

Miami is kind of like Vegas in that most people do it up wrong.

Which in turn is beautiful for the people that do it up right.

[Vicious]

Prosal, what was your take on Miami?

[Prosal]

(07-12-2013 10:16 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Prosal, what was your take on Miami?

I've no real opinion, but being a guy who prefers beer to Dom Perignon and shashliks to lobster sushis, who doesn't wear linen suits with white loafers in clubs, and who has no particular interest in slutty and siliconed wannabe upper-class and money-hungry bitches, I just can say that Miami isn't really my kind of place ))

[thegmanifesto]

Miami is just one of those places that seems to get peoples emotions going.

Even my friends in California get all hyped up and exasperated with the mention of the place. I think it is because it destroys peoples world-view.

You either love it or hate it I think. The interesting thing is I have found that the people that hate it usually do for the wrong reasons.

The bar is pretty high, but once you are above it, it can be great.

I will put Brickell alone up against any nightlife district in South America. Hell, I was just recently in Polanco in DF and I thought I was in Brickell. I could have saved myself the airfare.

You want Latinas of all stripes? You have that in Miami.

You want EE and FSU girls of all stripes? You have that in Miami.

You want Montreal girls? You have that in Miami.

You want Models? You have that in Miami.

You want tourist girls from all over the world? You have that in Miami.

And you have it all with a backdrop of perfect weather and a warm ocean. And a liberal nightlife scene that is arguably one of the best in the world.

Where else do you get that?

I have asked before, if someone knows of another "Miami" that is cheaper, please let me know.

[WestCoast]

^ spots in polanco you recommend?

[Vicious]

Prosal, but I mean what places did you go to? The picture you're painting sounds like a caricature. I never saw something as black and white like that in Miami

[Prosal]

(07-13-2013 04:02 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Prosal, but I mean what places did you go to? The picture you're painting sounds like a caricature. I never saw something as black and white like that in Miami

In fact you are right, I admittedly caricatured. I've been just once in Miami, and it was seven years ago.

I could go to Miami, and in very very good conditions. One of my good friends, a Saudi (real) international playboy, former F1 powerboat driver, co-owner of a group worth - I think - a few billions of $$, ect (whose father was in the Forbes Top Five Most Wanted White-collar fugitives BTW lol), lives part-time there and has repeatedly invited me, but even this doesn't make me want to go back. I prefer my FSU shitholes.

[Kaizen]

G, tell me more about this Opa-locka at 2 am.
I don't always need the most beautiful women...maybe it's my Steeze

[tiggaling]

(07-12-2013 09:41 AM)Prosal Wrote:  

My choice would be a priori the Caucasus region for white-skinned brunettes

I would be interested in hearing about these brunettes Prosal! and which countries in the Caucasus you have explored! Maybe a new thread...

[Prosal]

(07-13-2013 08:02 AM)tiggaling Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 09:41 AM)Prosal Wrote:  

My choice would be a priori the Caucasus region for white-skinned brunettes

I would be interested in hearing about these brunettes Prosal! and which countries in the Caucasus you have explored! Maybe a new thread...

I've only been to Georgia, several times. I pushed to Sighnagi near the Azerbaijan frontier, but never further. I'd love to have the time to explore more, as I am very much into kavkaz girls and I am fond of kavkaz cultures.

Vorkuta made a fantastic Caucasus trip report (that should have had its own thread). His sense of adventure and his verve make other stories seem tame in comparison.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-20886-...#pid378997

[thegmanifesto]

Yeah, you will see that the people that hate Miami usually have never really been or hate it for the wrong reasons.

In fact, the negative aura Miami has around it is one of the best things it has going.

It keeps the ratios favorable.

[worldwidetraveler]

(07-13-2013 05:24 AM)Prosal Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 04:02 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Prosal, but I mean what places did you go to? The picture you're painting sounds like a caricature. I never saw something as black and white like that in Miami

In fact you are right, I admittedly caricatured. I've been just once in Miami, and it was seven years ago.

Didn't you just give another guy shit for over hyping Serbia? Hell, not just one time but continual passive aggressive comments.

[Prosal]

(07-13-2013 10:16 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Didn't you just give another guy shit for over hyping Serbia? Hell, not just one time but continual passive aggressive comments.

Well, when I read things like (ditto) "Belgrade is full of women, by some estimates there’s 7-1 women to men ratio", my BS detector rings, sorry. Yours should ring also.

About Miami, I have admitted that I caricatured a bit, but IMO there's still a bit of truth in the picture I painted. It's a place where I have absolutely no desire to go back. That said, as usual, to each its own.

[worldwidetraveler]

(07-13-2013 10:50 AM)Prosal Wrote:  

(07-13-2013 10:16 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Didn't you just give another guy shit for over hyping Serbia? Hell, not just one time but continual passive aggressive comments.

Well, when I read things like (ditto) "Belgrade is full of women, by some estimates there’s 7-1 women to men ratio", my BS detector rings, sorry. Yours should ring also.

Yeah, I agree.

The ratio comment reminds me of people saying the same thing about Russia and Ukraine. Maybe those guys just went to night clubs early in the evening. I don't know but the ratios are far from that ideal.

My point being... your comments about Miami set off alarm bells as well based on a extreme view.

[Tenerife]

(07-12-2013 03:34 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Miami is just one of those places that seems to get peoples emotions going.

Even my friends in California get all hyped up and exasperated with the mention of the place. I think it is because it destroys peoples world-view.

You either love it or hate it I think. The interesting thing is I have found that the people that hate it usually do for the wrong reasons.

The bar is pretty high, but once you are above it, it can be great.

I will put Brickell alone up against any nightlife district in South America. Hell, I was just recently in Polanco in DF and I thought I was in Brickell. I could have saved myself the airfare.

You want Latinas of all stripes? You have that in Miami.

You want EE and FSU girls of all stripes? You have that in Miami.

You want Montreal girls? You have that in Miami.

You want Models? You have that in Miami.

You want tourist girls from all over the world? You have that in Miami.

And you have it all with a backdrop of perfect weather and a warm ocean. And a liberal nightlife scene that is arguably one of the best in the world.

Where else do you get that?

I have asked before, if someone knows of another "Miami" that is cheaper, please let me know.

There are a lot of FSU chicks in Miami?

I just checked wiki and the non-hispanic white population is posted as 11.9 percent in Miami.

Are these girls plentiful?

The all-night nightlife is intriguing. What is cost of living? Can a normal dude do well there?

[The Fantasist]

(07-12-2013 09:41 AM)Prosal Wrote:  

Anyway I wouldn't rate a city, but more a region. My choice would be a priori the Caucasus region for white-skinned brunettes, Russia (yes, I know it is vast)) and Central Asia (especially Uzbekistan) for all the types you can dream about, and, for girls with exotic features, Indonesia for asians and Cape Verde for mulatas. If you urge me to name three cities, I'd say Tashkent, Moscow and Moscow. ))

I would be curious to know what Vorkuta's opinion on this matter is.

Here is a video showing photos of girls from the North Caucus republics. I would say that it is representative of what I saw there in terms of good looking women.

For quantity of hot women I would say Kiev and Moscow are almost impossible to beat. I have never been anywhere with such vast numbers of stunning looking women.

After that for my wild card I would say that Vladikavkaz was pretty special. There were not the huge numbers of stunning women walking about like in Moscow but the top women in the city were the match if not better than anywhere I have ever been including Moscow and Kiev. What I liked about Ossetia too was that the girls had a very nice nature to them, very sweet and a little conservative but not ridiculously so as in Ingushetia maybe. In other words ideal LTR material. My Ossetian police friends told me that they don't do anything in bed with their wives except missionary position! They said that they would never ask for a blow job as it was something you did with whores not with wives as to them it was vulgar. So I'm thinking there must be some very frustrated women there who are not getting what they want from their husbands.

A place I have never been to but where I have the belief the women are incredible is South korea. I know it is utterly ridiculous to make judgements about women based on music videos but the women in those Korea-pop videos are as attractive as any I have seen in the world. Light skinned Asian women with skinny bodies certainly do it for me.

You have certainly got me intrigued by Uzbekistan Prosal. I was looking at photos of the country and it's like a fairytale, Khiva, Bukhara, Samarkand...amazing places like something out of '1001 Nights'. I will have time for a trip sometime around November and Uzbekistan is definitely on my short list.

[Greek kamaki]

Kiev is overrated.When you first arrive in Kiev you wonder what the fuss is about.Later you change opinion due to constant stimulation.Prague, Bratislava, Stockholm on the other hand make immense impression on first arrival and this counts.

[thegmanifesto]

(07-14-2013 05:24 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  

There are a lot of FSU chicks in Miami?

I just checked wiki and the non-hispanic white population is posted as 11.9 percent in Miami.

Are these girls plentiful?

Yes.

I see more hot EE girls on a regular basis than I see in any of the EE threads on here.

Sunny Isles is called "Little Moscow".

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The all-night nightlife is intriguing. What is cost of living?

Lower than Monaco. But higher than most.

Similar to coastal Southern California. But can vary pretty heavily depending on how you do it.

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Can a normal dude do well there?

No, to be honest.

That is one of the reason you get so much bitterness towards the place.

"Normal dudes" go there and get schooled, then pass judgement on the place with out knowing what they are talking about.

You even see that happen on this forum about Miami.

[Hencredible Casanova]

The thing about Miami is, what can you really do in the day time? Also, don't you get tired of the nightlife after a few days? Most people I know that live there complain about that and also say how tacky it feels after a while. I guess it depends on how you're doing it out there. High end all the way and it's probably much different.

The weather during the summer is oppressive so day game that time of year isn't really ideal.

I think for day game, Socal gets top honors. Probably the best day time scene in the country. Great weather, beaches, markets, all kinds of places to get at chicks. They're laid back out west too so that's another bonus.

The more interesting question is nightlife and in that respect, you have to put Miami and NYC in the same conversation. The good thing is they have opposite schedules. December through Feb/March it's Miami all day since wintertime is brick in NYC. The rest of the year NYC probably has the upper hand (including the Hamptons).

Miami also gets points for logistics. You're only a 2hr plane ride from the Northeast US and you're practically in the Caribbean already. Latin America moves are all within easy striking distance. Those flights are usually easy on the pockets too so that can help make up for the ridiculously humid summers. Again, I think it all depends on what levels we're talking about.

I think Miami full-time only works well if you're talking high end or at least the mobility to exploit the logistics that it offers and being able to slide in and out when appropriate.

[InternationPlayboy]

G's pretty much spot on. Miami isn't for armatures. I pull well other places but Miami was a challenge. You may meet a girl and get her number. By the time you get around to calling her she already gave her number out to 6 other guys. Two of then have more muscles than you and two have a lot more money. It ain't easy. Dudes approach like machines out there. It's not like Denver where 80% of dudes won't approach, so if you do you're in the top 20% already just by opening your mouth. Down there everyone is approaching and a fine white girl will probably get approached 100 times in a week.

I can also confirm there are lots of FSU girls in Miami. More than anywhere I've been. One of the best looking girls in knew down there that I worked with was from Serbia (I know not FSU but EE). My boy who had some of the best natural game I've ever seen was dating a stunner from Russia. That kid was one of a kind. I once saw him take a married girl home from the club, went and banged her, came back to the same club, met another girl and banged her. That's some top notch game if you're doing that in Miami.

[rudebwoy]

(07-14-2013 01:28 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

G's pretty much spot on. Miami isn't for armatures. I pull well other places but Miami was a challenge. You may meet a girl and get her number. By the time you get around to calling her she already gave her number out to 6 other guys. Two of then have more muscles than you and two have a lot more money. It ain't easy. Dudes approach like machines out there. It's not like Denver where 80% of dudes won't approach, so if you do you're in the top 20% already just by opening your mouth. Down there everyone is approaching and a fine white girl will probably get approached 100 times in a week.

I can also confirm there are lots of FSU girls in Miami. More than anywhere I've been. One of the best looking girls in knew down there that I worked with was from Serbia (I know not FSU but EE). My boy who had some of the best natural game I've ever seen was dating a stunner from Russia. That kid was one of a kind. I once saw him take a married girl home from the club, went and banged her, came back to the same club, met another girl and banged her. That's some top notch game if you're doing that in Miami.

What I got from your post is that Russia has top talent, which I know and hope to confirm one day.
Also Serbia has top talent, which is why a few have put it on their list of top 3 places.
My thing is, if I fly to Miami and leave the airport. Am I going to break my neck from looking at all the talent?

[InternationPlayboy]

No I wouldn't say Russia has the top talent. For me it's the Latinas, and in Miami not necissarily from any one Latin country in particular. It's just a mix of top tallent from all sorts of Latin American countries. It's all preference though I suppose. Some like skinny white girls and some like curvey latina girls. I like the later. And you will be breaking your neck a lot. I don't care where you've been, Miami has top notch quality and if you say otherwise you're lying.

[jimukr104]

(07-14-2013 01:28 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

G's pretty much spot on. Miami isn't for armatures. I pull well other places but Miami was a challenge. You may meet a girl and get her number. By the time you get around to calling her she already gave her number out to 6 other guys. Two of then have more muscles than you and two have a lot more money. It ain't easy. Dudes approach like machines out there. It's not like Denver where 80% of dudes won't approach, so if you do you're in the top 20% already just by opening your mouth. Down there everyone is approaching and a fine white girl will probably get approached 100 times in a week.

I can also confirm there are lots of FSU girls in Miami. More than anywhere I've been. One of the best looking girls in knew down there that I worked with was from Serbia (I know not FSU but EE). My boy who had some of the best natural game I've ever seen was dating a stunner from Russia. That kid was one of a kind. I once saw him take a married girl home from the club, went and banged her, came back to the same club, met another girl and banged her. That's some top notch game if you're doing that in Miami.

I guess you never been to the tri state NYC area? new Jersey, NYC, and southern Connecticut has close to a million FSU immigrants you would think. Thats not counting the second and third generation ones.
Miami population is very small. In fact a lot of the FSU folks are seniors who moved from NYC to retirement communities.That being said South Florida including Miami does have thousands of them.My wife has a few friends who migrated from NYC there but they had professional jobs lined up.Boston and Philly also have "little Moscow" areas. Even Vegas and Dallas Texas does. philly might be the second largest population since they actually have Russian media there. But you cant compare with NYC where there are dozens of Russian papers, magazines, 3 Russian radio channels, and Russian television is big here. If you want the largest amount of FSU chicks outside of FSU go to Isreal though.That being said the NY ones are happy dating there own guys (us lol). They are professionals and don't need green cards.
As for Miaimi. Nice city. But it is full of so many wannabes. It is like everyone has to get a tan, work out, buy/lease an expensive car and have a great pad .Not a problem is you have dough but the economy isn't that great there so a lot of folks run up debt. My pops just bought 2 condo's there 2 YEARS AGO, short sale , for retirement due to the under water folks.

As for people hyping locations...lol.... they do that on all forums. The ratios are more close to 51-49% in these countries. But go to a province city where guys are to "manly" to dance of course you will see 3 -1 girls in the clubs. That includes the whores. Moscow had NIGHT FLIGHT and kiev RIVER PALACE. Anyone remember those ratios?
Go on lady's night, be first on line when men can enter and you will see 10-1 ratio for the next 20 minutes.

[thegmanifesto]

(07-14-2013 11:03 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

The thing about Miami is, what can you really do in the day time?

The Beach.

South Beach is also a workout wonderland of parks.

Depends what you like I guess. For me, taking a swim in the ocean, an occasional surf, and boxing is what I am looking for out of a day.

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Also, don't you get tired of the nightlife after a few days? Most people I know that live there complain about that and also say how tacky it feels after a while. I guess it depends on how you're doing it out there. High end all the way and it's probably much different.

Yeah, high end isn't tacky at all.

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The weather during the summer is oppressive so day game that time of year isn't really ideal.

I was there in June and surprisingly it wasn't bad at all. Also, I hear it is not bad now.

That basically leaves August as the only potential month for bad weather.

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I think for day game, Socal gets top honors. Probably the best day time scene in the country. Great weather, beaches, markets, all kinds of places to get at chicks. They're laid back out west too so that's another bonus.

Knowing both intimately, there is no where in LA, OC, or SD that compares.

Especially a comparable 23 block area.

The volume in South Beach can't be touched. Montreal either. I may do a Miami VS Montreal Comparison Data Sheet if there is some interest.