Simple Question.
I got laid before I learned game
Quote: (04-26-2013 08:47 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:
Simple Question.
I still got laid before I learned "game"--played a lot of sports in high school.
I read The Game freshman year of college (just a few years before the concept of "game" became entrenched in the public mind), so basically all of my adult life has been tainted by the forbidden fruit that is awareness of "game."
Sometimes I wonder if I ever truly "learned" "game," or have just improved my style, gotten more muscular, and approached more.
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I get laid about the same amount as I did before game, but the quality has increased.
I had 2 LTRs from ~17-19. Well the second one I was FWB for a while and I banged this chick I was internet friends with (she was kinda fat) before we were "official." I got most of my pre-game bangs after that we broke up around march and I banged 4 girls I think before school was out. These were all unintentional long-game kind of deals ie. social circle. They pounced on me as soon as they figured out I was single. Any cold approach I did was horrible (at one point on that st pattys day I walked for an hour with a chick who took 2 minutes to pull from the club, got mcdonalds then on the bus home I had no Idea what to do so I tried to cuddle up with her, she said she'd walk herself home and gave me a kiss ahahah)
That summer I started reading ask men, read a post about the "alpha male" then found roissy/roosh. From there I had an aha moment. Now I'm pretty decent when it comes to what to do and when to do it, being aloof etc, but my cold approach game is still not where I want it to be. If the approach is "warm" ie from the internet or I'm in a great mood and the girl is very approachable (ie at a small house party or beer garden) things are smooth sailing.
In short game made me hone my natural talent by learning the proper move in a given scenario. Game gives me more freedom and a clearer state of mind when dealing with women. The quality also increases too (I'd rather bang quality girls a few times than some alright looking girl once and drunk. I like the memories, call me a romantic)
I had 2 LTRs from ~17-19. Well the second one I was FWB for a while and I banged this chick I was internet friends with (she was kinda fat) before we were "official." I got most of my pre-game bangs after that we broke up around march and I banged 4 girls I think before school was out. These were all unintentional long-game kind of deals ie. social circle. They pounced on me as soon as they figured out I was single. Any cold approach I did was horrible (at one point on that st pattys day I walked for an hour with a chick who took 2 minutes to pull from the club, got mcdonalds then on the bus home I had no Idea what to do so I tried to cuddle up with her, she said she'd walk herself home and gave me a kiss ahahah)
That summer I started reading ask men, read a post about the "alpha male" then found roissy/roosh. From there I had an aha moment. Now I'm pretty decent when it comes to what to do and when to do it, being aloof etc, but my cold approach game is still not where I want it to be. If the approach is "warm" ie from the internet or I'm in a great mood and the girl is very approachable (ie at a small house party or beer garden) things are smooth sailing.
In short game made me hone my natural talent by learning the proper move in a given scenario. Game gives me more freedom and a clearer state of mind when dealing with women. The quality also increases too (I'd rather bang quality girls a few times than some alright looking girl once and drunk. I like the memories, call me a romantic)
I'm actually getting laid less since learning game. Where's that choice? This shit don't work. ![[Image: angry.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/angry.gif)
Quote: (04-26-2013 09:43 PM)ozzyyooo Wrote:
Dang that's not fair. I'm only 15!!!!!
Haha
Don't rush to get grown © Kanye.
But understanding the game now and what you need to do prepare for it, will be priceless.
At your age, I woulda been in the gym and teasing the cute chicks in high school - but only knowing what I know now. Prolly woulda got my Vietnamese flag back then..!
WIA
Game has made me a better all around person, but as far as getting laid goes I was just going with the flow of things before game, now I'm conscious of certain things, which bites me in the ass at times. Still a work in progress.
"What's the difference between us.
We can start at the penis.
Or scream I just don't give a fuck and see who really means it."
- Marshall Bruce Mathers III
I had a lot of women from the ages of 16-23 (for that age). Then I started learning about dry spells and how painful they could be.
I slumped hard for a while and the spiral was self fulfilling.
Things started picking up again around 25 and I jumped into a relationship with a great girl partly out of fear of the dreaded dry spell.
At around 30 I really started to figure shit out for myself and then suddenly the quality started going up and I cared much less for the quantity.
Now at 33 things come much more natural and I can maintain a higher quality, go for what I want, and get it (more or less). Now its me passing judgement on the women; the natural balance has been restored.
I slumped hard for a while and the spiral was self fulfilling.
Things started picking up again around 25 and I jumped into a relationship with a great girl partly out of fear of the dreaded dry spell.
At around 30 I really started to figure shit out for myself and then suddenly the quality started going up and I cared much less for the quantity.
Now at 33 things come much more natural and I can maintain a higher quality, go for what I want, and get it (more or less). Now its me passing judgement on the women; the natural balance has been restored.
Game is for pansy men who don't like women duh..
It's hard to to say exactly what counted as starting game, but I had slept with a couple girls before starting any systematic attempt at getting laid that involved conscious work.
For me, what really counted as starting game was little more than hitting on as many girls as possible until I hit the jackpot. What I consider starting out in "game" was the time when I had just recently broken up with my then girlfriend. I was in China at the time, and I had experienced difficulty meeting women there, so I just began hitting on as many girls as possible, going out as much as possible, while reading some info on the internet. I basically went into a frenzy, it was like an obsession. Looking back, I think I must have approached about 320-350 women in six months, and got eight lays from it. Later, after my return to Germany, I continued this while simultaneously sitting down and analyzing most of my approaches.
For me, what really counted as starting game was little more than hitting on as many girls as possible until I hit the jackpot. What I consider starting out in "game" was the time when I had just recently broken up with my then girlfriend. I was in China at the time, and I had experienced difficulty meeting women there, so I just began hitting on as many girls as possible, going out as much as possible, while reading some info on the internet. I basically went into a frenzy, it was like an obsession. Looking back, I think I must have approached about 320-350 women in six months, and got eight lays from it. Later, after my return to Germany, I continued this while simultaneously sitting down and analyzing most of my approaches.
Back when my dad was growing up, they didn't have pornos. So, Guys didn't know how to sex a lot of the time I think. My dad told me the first time he had sex he was around 15. Some girl just asked him to "put it in". He did this. He just put his dick in her pussy for 15 min without moving and then told her he was bored and went to play basketball. He didn't even know that he was supposed to thrust. This is in the early 1950s.
So Imagine that ignorance divided by an exponential amount and you get game today.
So Imagine that ignorance divided by an exponential amount and you get game today.
Game really isn't about getting laid, it's about having control over your life and thusly, your relationships. If you don't have it, women will walk all over you. It's that simple. I got laid plenty prior to coming across the miscreants that inhabit the manosphere about two months ago. I just turned 31, and spent the first period of my dating life until then white knighting it like a motherfucker. Had one too many chics reveal their inner character too myself, and now I am on this forum with you fucks. Luckily, I was born tall, blonde, and kind of handsome so I always did well.
@ Soup
I'll take the atmosphere of say 60s 70s California minus the hardcore porn of 2013 any day. Your dad missed out by only like ten years.
I'll take the atmosphere of say 60s 70s California minus the hardcore porn of 2013 any day. Your dad missed out by only like ten years.
Quote: (04-27-2013 12:29 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:
I'm actually getting laid less since learning game.
Tut is joking but I'm serious.
I got way more pussy before I learned game.
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-6480-p...l#pid90753
Honestly, my game was shitty in those days, but, it didn't matter, I had fame!
Game is a joke compared to fame.
I had girlfriends before Game, but they were in control of relationships and I wasted too much money on effort on them. I felt heartbroken when they told me it's over. I never had guts to end the relationship myself even if I know I should, because I feared being alone.
Now with Game I spend very little money and effort to girls and I can rederict all that effor and money to my pleasure and to increase my value. I also do not care about being dumped and perceive singleness as freedom rather then aloneness. I am in control in relationships and can make women do more things for me while doing less things for them.
Now with Game I spend very little money and effort to girls and I can rederict all that effor and money to my pleasure and to increase my value. I also do not care about being dumped and perceive singleness as freedom rather then aloneness. I am in control in relationships and can make women do more things for me while doing less things for them.
I did more before I found this forum and really started putting 2 and 2 together for "game". These are the reasons I can think of
- Sometimes I wasn't working and would just![[Image: troll.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/new/troll.gif)
around town looking for girls.
- I didn't give a fuck. I would try to touch and rub on a girl within minutes of talking.
- I was drinking and smoking a lot more which ties into I didn't give a fuck.
- I was more horny and my standards were lower. I would approach girls everywhere I went and while I was driving.
Now, I kind of think about shit with girls a little more than before which I feel like is hurting me. I was always a player and had my technique - Make girl laugh and smile, touch, kiss, try to fuck. Shit, I was doing my thing for 6 years before I found the forum. Knew who was attracted to me and moved on real quick if the girl wasn't into me. I never wasted time if the girl was acting like a bitch and not going along with everything.
- Sometimes I wasn't working and would just
around town looking for girls.- I didn't give a fuck. I would try to touch and rub on a girl within minutes of talking.
- I was drinking and smoking a lot more which ties into I didn't give a fuck.
- I was more horny and my standards were lower. I would approach girls everywhere I went and while I was driving.
Now, I kind of think about shit with girls a little more than before which I feel like is hurting me. I was always a player and had my technique - Make girl laugh and smile, touch, kiss, try to fuck. Shit, I was doing my thing for 6 years before I found the forum. Knew who was attracted to me and moved on real quick if the girl wasn't into me. I never wasted time if the girl was acting like a bitch and not going along with everything.
Your research will probably find that most of the long term players, were actually already banging "a few girls here and there".
True players are not made.
I came into this forum because I wanted to be part of a group that shared the same beliefs as me. If I had at least 2 friends here in the US that share that I would have never set foot in this website. There are a lot of players doing their own thing already. Most guys on here think that they were made players. I honestly believe that apart from drug addicts, we live the most stressful kind of lifestyles. While most men have their day and go home to a wife that will provide them with the necessary sexual pleasure, players like us must find every so often a women that will fulfill our desire sexually while still maintaining a "normal" lifestyle. However, most of us do keep a harem in rotation. This is the main reason why a lot of "wanna be" players quit this forum so fast. They think it is in them, but it is really not. Most guys that leave here fast is probably because they just wanted to get laid a few times. It gets harder the more bangs you collect. I have had my days where I think if it is all worth it. But as my username shows I will always be a slave to game.
"You are born a player, it takes the right amount of knowledge to bring it out. " Doulos2game
"If you find the road you're on too long, then it probably is not the road for you. Move over someone else is behind you." Doulos2game
True players are not made.
I came into this forum because I wanted to be part of a group that shared the same beliefs as me. If I had at least 2 friends here in the US that share that I would have never set foot in this website. There are a lot of players doing their own thing already. Most guys on here think that they were made players. I honestly believe that apart from drug addicts, we live the most stressful kind of lifestyles. While most men have their day and go home to a wife that will provide them with the necessary sexual pleasure, players like us must find every so often a women that will fulfill our desire sexually while still maintaining a "normal" lifestyle. However, most of us do keep a harem in rotation. This is the main reason why a lot of "wanna be" players quit this forum so fast. They think it is in them, but it is really not. Most guys that leave here fast is probably because they just wanted to get laid a few times. It gets harder the more bangs you collect. I have had my days where I think if it is all worth it. But as my username shows I will always be a slave to game.
"You are born a player, it takes the right amount of knowledge to bring it out. " Doulos2game
"If you find the road you're on too long, then it probably is not the road for you. Move over someone else is behind you." Doulos2game
A true player doesn't think about what he does or says.
He just does it or says it.
Saying that, I've always "had it". The only thing that has held me back during some periods of my life is some anxiety.
Really, I think every guy is born with "it". The only thing that fucks them up is anxiety and nervousness around women. If a guy is truly confident he will say whatever the fuck he wants and women are generally attracted.
Every girl?
No.
But more than enough.
Fuck, I got laid at 12 years old but didn't do shit in high school because I let a huge blow out fuck my confidence up.
If a guy is truly confident, not just trying to convey that he is, he will have zero problems with women.
He just does it or says it.
Saying that, I've always "had it". The only thing that has held me back during some periods of my life is some anxiety.
Really, I think every guy is born with "it". The only thing that fucks them up is anxiety and nervousness around women. If a guy is truly confident he will say whatever the fuck he wants and women are generally attracted.
Every girl?
No.
But more than enough.
Fuck, I got laid at 12 years old but didn't do shit in high school because I let a huge blow out fuck my confidence up.
If a guy is truly confident, not just trying to convey that he is, he will have zero problems with women.
Quote: (04-27-2013 08:26 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:
Fuck, I got laid at 12 years old but didn't do shit in high school because I let a huge blow out fuck my confidence up.
Yep, I was the same. I got laid once in high school (15 or 16) and then didn't get ass again until I was 19. Once I turned 21 I started to step up my game. Most of my friends in high school got a lot of ass and would give me a hard time for having huge dry spells. I always hung out with cute girls, and even dated a few, but they would never let me fuck. I was too nice. I would only get to finger them and mess around, but never fuck. The tables turned though once I started banging good looking girls. It took me banging one real good looking girl that made me gain a lot of confidence. After that I decided, shit, if I can bang her, I can bang lots of cute girls. Shortly after I found this forum. It definitely helped me step up my game and I got a lot of good info from many experienced players. Now a days, a lot of my friends who were banging left and right in high school and my earlier days wish they were banging the girls I am now. They compliment me now when they see the girls I'm banging. They are banging 5's and 6's, some even lower. Many of them lost their touch. How the tides can turn. Some of them though still have it, but now I can keep up.
Quote: (04-27-2013 10:56 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:
Quote: (04-27-2013 08:26 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:
Fuck, I got laid at 12 years old but didn't do shit in high school because I let a huge blow out fuck my confidence up.
Yep, I was the same. I got laid once in high school (15 or 16) and then didn't get ass again until I was 19. Once I turned 21 I started to step up my game. Most of my friends in high school got a lot of ass and would give me a hard time for having huge dry spells. I always hung out with cute girls, and even dated a few, but they would never let me fuck. I was too nice. I would only get to finger them and mess around, but never fuck. The tables turned though once I started banging good looking girls. It took me banging one real good looking girl that made me gain a lot of confidence. After that I decided, shit, if I can bang her, I can bang lots of cute girls. Shortly after I found this forum. It definitely helped me step up my game and I got a lot of good info from many experienced players. Now a days, a lot of my friends who were banging left and right in high school and my earlier days wish they were banging the girls I am now. They compliment me now when they see the girls I'm banging. They are banging 5's and 6's, some even lower. Many of them lost their touch. How the tides can turn. Some of them though still have it, but now I can keep up.
How did your boys lose their game?
Always searching for 35+ y/o players to see the long term.
The first time I got laid was when I was 18. I was 23 when I found out about this forum. I got laid mainly on looks more than game so I got a pass there but I found I wasnt getting laid much. Ive only banged 3 girls up until I found this forum. I was super beta as well before game. My girlfriends would dominate the relationship and you would see me giving roses to them every month or so.
Quote: (04-27-2013 11:04 PM)WestCoast Wrote:
Quote: (04-27-2013 10:56 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:
Quote: (04-27-2013 08:26 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:
Fuck, I got laid at 12 years old but didn't do shit in high school because I let a huge blow out fuck my confidence up.
Yep, I was the same. I got laid once in high school (15 or 16) and then didn't get ass again until I was 19. Once I turned 21 I started to step up my game. Most of my friends in high school got a lot of ass and would give me a hard time for having huge dry spells. I always hung out with cute girls, and even dated a few, but they would never let me fuck. I was too nice. I would only get to finger them and mess around, but never fuck. The tables turned though once I started banging good looking girls. It took me banging one real good looking girl that made me gain a lot of confidence. After that I decided, shit, if I can bang her, I can bang lots of cute girls. Shortly after I found this forum. It definitely helped me step up my game and I got a lot of good info from many experienced players. Now a days, a lot of my friends who were banging left and right in high school and my earlier days wish they were banging the girls I am now. They compliment me now when they see the girls I'm banging. They are banging 5's and 6's, some even lower. Many of them lost their touch. How the tides can turn. Some of them though still have it, but now I can keep up.
How did your boys lose their game?
Always searching for 35+ y/o players to see the long term.
Lots of different ways. A handful got into LTRs and dated the girls for a long time, became big time pussy whooped and got dumped. My high school best friend was such a pimp. He took half the hot girls in my class virginity. He got in a LTR with an average looking girl, maybe a 6 (She wore way too much makeup, when it came off def a 5 or 6, with it on a 7). His break up crushed him. They dated something like 7 years. Pretty sure he still isn't over it after 4 years of being broken up. Now he's banging bottom of the barrel girls.
Another one I just saw on facebook is dating a girl that had a crush on me in high school that I wouldn't bang on my dry spell. She was a HUGE slut. There was a party where there was a line going to the bathroom to get sucked off by this girl. She sucked at least 4 different dicks that night and fucked two dudes. My boy used to get a lot of ass. Same thing, got in a LTR, had a kid with the girl, girl cheated on him, and even worse, SHE BANGED HIS DAD!!!!!! Not even kidding bro. Pretty sure that fucked him up pretty bad.
Others, similar stories, or drugs. All sorts of reasons. A lot of the dudes who were killing it in high school became lame ass low lives. I'm glad I didn't stick around after high school or I might be in the same boat. A lot of them haven't even been anywhere other than Nevada, Cali, Utah, and AZ, all of which are less than an hour and a half from where we live(d). Another thing was we grew up in a small town outside of Vegas. Most of the good looking girls we grew up with went out of state for college. The others started venturing into Vegas and realized a lot of the dudes in our town were lame asses. Very few of my friends growing up went to college, many still live in the same town of less than 20k and are doing shit with their lives. I feel sorry for these guys when I go back home and visit. It's kind of depressing. Most of them are trying to bang girls we went to high school with. What a shitty deal for them.
I always wanted to start a thread called "committed LTR = decrease in game?" All these stories and personal experience yield the same answer. Yes. If a hardened player goes without chasing for a long enough time, the social changes move too fast so you can't adapt... Leads to failure.
The guys looking to find a wife on this forum are gonna hate me for this, but if you stay in a committed relationship without cheating on the side, your game will only decline.
The guys looking to find a wife on this forum are gonna hate me for this, but if you stay in a committed relationship without cheating on the side, your game will only decline.
Quote: (04-27-2013 11:39 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:
Quote: (04-27-2013 11:04 PM)WestCoast Wrote:
Quote: (04-27-2013 10:56 PM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:
Quote: (04-27-2013 08:26 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:
Fuck, I got laid at 12 years old but didn't do shit in high school because I let a huge blow out fuck my confidence up.
Yep, I was the same. I got laid once in high school (15 or 16) and then didn't get ass again until I was 19. Once I turned 21 I started to step up my game. Most of my friends in high school got a lot of ass and would give me a hard time for having huge dry spells. I always hung out with cute girls, and even dated a few, but they would never let me fuck. I was too nice. I would only get to finger them and mess around, but never fuck. The tables turned though once I started banging good looking girls. It took me banging one real good looking girl that made me gain a lot of confidence. After that I decided, shit, if I can bang her, I can bang lots of cute girls. Shortly after I found this forum. It definitely helped me step up my game and I got a lot of good info from many experienced players. Now a days, a lot of my friends who were banging left and right in high school and my earlier days wish they were banging the girls I am now. They compliment me now when they see the girls I'm banging. They are banging 5's and 6's, some even lower. Many of them lost their touch. How the tides can turn. Some of them though still have it, but now I can keep up.
How did your boys lose their game?
Always searching for 35+ y/o players to see the long term.
Lots of different ways. A handful got into LTRs and dated the girls for a long time, became big time pussy whooped and got dumped. My high school best friend was such a pimp. He took half the hot girls in my class virginity. He got in a LTR with an average looking girl, maybe a 6 (She wore way too much makeup, when it came off def a 5 or 6, with it on a 7). His break up crushed him. They dated something like 7 years. Pretty sure he still isn't over it after 4 years of being broken up. Now he's banging bottom of the barrel girls.
Another one I just saw on facebook is dating a girl that had a crush on me in high school that I wouldn't bang on my dry spell. She was a HUGE slut. There was a party where there was a line going to the bathroom to get sucked off by this girl. She sucked at least 4 different dicks that night and fucked two dudes. My boy used to get a lot of ass. Same thing, got in a LTR, had a kid with the girl, girl cheated on him, and even worse, SHE BANGED HIS DAD!!!!!! Not even kidding bro. Pretty sure that fucked him up pretty bad.
Others, similar stories, or drugs. All sorts of reasons. A lot of the dudes who were killing it in high school became lame ass low lives. I'm glad I didn't stick around after high school or I might be in the same boat. A lot of them haven't even been anywhere other than Nevada, Cali, Utah, and AZ, all of which are less than an hour and a half from where we live(d). Another thing was we grew up in a small town outside of Vegas. Most of the good looking girls we grew up with went out of state for college. The others started venturing into Vegas and realized a lot of the dudes in our town were lame asses. Very few of my friends growing up went to college, many still live in the same town of less than 20k and are doing shit with their lives. I feel sorry for these guys when I go back home and visit. It's kind of depressing. Most of them are trying to bang girls we went to high school with. What a shitty deal for them.
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