[Gaston]

And America takes another one up the ass.

"... it would be a milestone event in American pro sports. There has never been an active openly gay player in a major American team sport..."

(and especially football at that

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/report-gay-...--nfl.html

And if you think there's something wrong with that, you better believe it you have a problem.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/5593...r.html.csp

Manosphere men all over the world continue to wonder:

what the hell happened to America?

... knowing very well how and why the jig is up.

[Excelsior]

[Hades]

We had a gay rugby player on the team. He wasn't a huge flamer or a deadbeat player so it wasn't an issue. He probably scored a fourth of our tries and was faster than nearly everybody else on the team despite indulging a pack a day habit. The effectiveness of our backs have suffered since he has left. I have had other gay friends and they were all cool.

I think that the biggest problem here is that the gay rights movement was hijacked by feminists and lesbians so every little gay accomplishment becomes some kind of victory against the patriarchy. This is unconscionable considering that nobody in the entire history of mankind ever gave much of a shit about lesbianism. It was permitted in Nazi Germany, and all the very conservative Islamic dudes I have talked to overseas thought (in their words) that women getting it on with each other was "awesome", even in the case of fairly ugly bulldykes, while gay men should get imprisoned or murdered. I don't like that gay men have allied themselves with feminists but we haven't given them a lot of other options. Feminists in turn have used gay men as a weapon against regular men, shaming their squeamishness with accusations of latent homosexuality and insecurity and touting their progressive viewpoints with their supposed tolerance. Now you get feminist hipsters who are so "secure in their masculinity" that they dress up like giant fags and have no issues tooling straight guys by touching or groping them. It's sickening.

I don't like how this dynamic works and think that we should adopt male homosexuality (but not flaming faggotry) as an aspect of masculinity ("The Way of Men", "Fight Club", and tons of other great pro-masculinity books were written by gay men). A lot of badass gladiators and Alexander the Great were gay. I think that a big aspect of masculinity is appreciating competence and ignoring the unimportant details, so if this guy is a good (or great) football player, isn't a flaming sissy, and can behave normally in the locker rooms then he should be allowed to compete without issue. Otherwise, much like how a guy who sucks at life is called a pussy, this guy is a faggot.

[Katatonic]

Why would anyone give a shit(especially a member of the manosphere) if some random athlete was gay?

[WesternCancer]

(03-25-2013 06:31 PM)Hades Wrote:  

I think that the biggest problem here is that the gay rights movement was hijacked by feminists and lesbians so every little gay accomplishment becomes some kind of victory against the patriarchy.

This.

Does it affect his ability to play the game? No. So why should anyone care.

[Kickb]

[Screwston]

Nobody even cares. All these people want you to be so offended and talk shit so they can say "See, we need more rights. People hate us and don't accept us".

[Hannibal]

Yeah, I'm really getting tired of shit like this that becomes news somehow.

Not so terribly long ago, men fucked each other casually and no one really pigeonholed them in any specific group.

It stands to reason that it became immoral because men were less dependant on women for their sexual needs and society needed men to work to provide for their families (the wife being the sexual outlet).

Seriously, the level of offended that some women routinely get now if you use words like "faggot", "retard", "tranny" and others doesn't even make sense. I read somewhere that they get more offended than the groups it targets.

I'm cool with gay people if they don't act like gigantic flamers and constantly make it a point to wave their queerness in everyone's faces like "Look at me! I'm thstill not thstraight yet!".

[pitt]

(03-25-2013 06:33 PM)Katatonic Wrote:  

Why would anyone give a shit(especially a member of the manosphere) if some random athlete was gay?

Exactly

As Miller also said ''you can play football or you can't''. I dont think his sexual orientation should dictate his stay on NFL. Then again his sexual orientation doesn't need to be disclosed to the public, he could easily keep that shit to himself and avoid public embarrassment. Why does he feels the need to tell everybody that he is gay?

Should a company think less of a highly productive employee because of his sexual orientation?

Let the guy live his own life, if he likes to take it in the ass, thats his own business.

[Blaster]

Quote:

Then again his sexual orientation doesn't need to be disclosed to the public, he could easily keep that shit to himself and avoid public embarrassment. Why does he feels the need to tell everybody that he is gay?

True but he really shouldn't have to hide it, either.

[NYJ]

(03-25-2013 06:33 PM)Katatonic Wrote:  

Why would anyone give a shit(especially a member of the manosphere) if some random athlete was gay?

Especially when the gay population has been said to represent 3% of America.

[BIGINJAPAN]

You guys will care when your team is fined or favourite player suspended for ripping on him and the special treatment he gets.

[Screwston]

Gay people and gay right activists or whatever they're called don't seem to understand that the majority of people don't want to hear about their orientation or "lifestyle". They could care less about what you're doing behind closed doors. It annoys me when these people start saying you have a problem or something is wrong with you if you don't 100% accept them though. I can't understand how or why a straight man would stick up for these groups and shame you if you're not backing up the gays.

[Screwston]

(03-25-2013 07:55 PM)Blaster Wrote:  

Quote:

Then again his sexual orientation doesn't need to be disclosed to the public, he could easily keep that shit to himself and avoid public embarrassment. Why does he feels the need to tell everybody that he is gay?

True but he really shouldn't have to hide it, either.

He doesn't have to hide. Don't get mad or surprised when people are talking shit about you though. It would be like all of us announcing to everyone we meet that we try to fuck barely legal girls. Have common sense and share shit with people who have similar views.

[dragnet]

(03-25-2013 06:31 PM)Hades Wrote:  

We had a gay rugby player on the team. He wasn't a huge flamer or a deadbeat player so it wasn't an issue. He probably scored a fourth of our tries and was faster than nearly everybody else on the team despite indulging a pack a day habit. The effectiveness of our backs have suffered since he has left. I have had other gay friends and they were all cool.

I think that the biggest problem here is that the gay rights movement was hijacked by feminists and lesbians so every little gay accomplishment becomes some kind of victory against the patriarchy. This is unconscionable considering that nobody in the entire history of mankind ever gave much of a shit about lesbianism. It was permitted in Nazi Germany, and all the very conservative Islamic dudes I have talked to overseas thought (in their words) that women getting it on with each other was "awesome", even in the case of fairly ugly bulldykes, while gay men should get imprisoned or murdered. I don't like that gay men have allied themselves with feminists but we haven't given them a lot of other options. Feminists in turn have used gay men as a weapon against regular men, shaming their squeamishness with accusations of latent homosexuality and insecurity and touting their progressive viewpoints with their supposed tolerance. Now you get feminist hipsters who are so "secure in their masculinity" that they dress up like giant fags and have no issues tooling straight guys by touching or groping them. It's sickening.

I don't like how this dynamic works and think that we should adopt male homosexuality (but not flaming faggotry) as an aspect of masculinity ("The Way of Men", "Fight Club", and tons of other great pro-masculinity books were written by gay men). A lot of badass gladiators and Alexander the Great were gay. I think that a big aspect of masculinity is appreciating competence and ignoring the unimportant details, so if this guy is a good (or great) football player, isn't a flaming sissy, and can behave normally in the locker rooms then he should be allowed to compete without issue. Otherwise, much like how a guy who sucks at life is called a pussy, this guy is a faggot.

I completely agree with this comment and expressed a likeminded opinion over at Roissy's sometime ago:

Quote:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/06/2...ent-256317

What 12-year old boy would choose to be bullied, ridiculed and called a faggot? It’s just absurd on it’s face. Besides, homosexual mating behaviors have been observed in nearly 1500 species, many of them vertebrate mammals so I really don’t see why it’s all that weird that a small percentage of humans would also be born gay.

The truth is that women view ALL men in utilitarian terms. We are ALL expendable (except the alphas) for all they care. As far as I’m concerned, when it comes to gender relations gay & straight men would be on the same team if the homos hadn’t formed a (somewhat understandable but nonetheless disastrous) cultural alliance with institutional feminism."

I have no problems with gay men---two of my best buddies are gay. It's the flamboyant-types/flamers I can't stand and don't want to be around.

[speakeasy]

What's happening is the media right now is in a feeding frenzy over gay issues. They are clutching at any little thing that might push gay tolerance is front line news. And it's at a relentless fever pitch. They are totally trying to turn this into 1965 Montgomery, Alabama. Difference is, whites were hanging blacks from trees and making them drink from separate water fountains. In 2013 nobody really gives a fuck about what gays do in their bedroom anymore.

I feel like going out and buying 20 Chic-fil-A sandwiches right now.

[Blaster]

(03-25-2013 09:14 PM)houston Wrote:  

He doesn't have to hide. Don't get mad or surprised when people are talking shit about you though. It would be like all of us announcing to everyone we meet that we try to fuck barely legal girls. Have common sense and share shit with people who have similar views.

Can't argue with that.

[kdolo]

I have no problems with gay men---two of my best buddies are gay. It's the flamboyant-types/flamers I can't stand and don't want to be around.
[/quote]


Bullshit !!

NO and I mean NO straight man is "best buddies" with not one but two gays !

So either you are a liar or are gay yourself and trying to "normalize" it here.

[kdolo]

Remember even gays are being used here.

This has little to do with them because thay are a really really tiny part of the population.

This is about the Controllers - those who control society and social policy.

They want homosexuality normalized and want everyone to engage in it ?? WHY ??

homosexual sex does not result in procreation: this is about population control and breaking down the nuclear family.

furthermore - male homosexual sex is by far the #1 way to contract AIDS - so the more who engage in it, the more who get it and die - this is about EUGENICS.

[Screwston]

[Hannibal]

(03-25-2013 10:03 PM)kdolo Wrote:  

Remember even gays are being used here.

This has little to do with them because thay are a really really tiny part of the population.

This is about the Controllers - those who control society and social policy.

They want homosexuality normalized and want everyone to engage in it ?? WHY ??

homosexual sex does not result in procreation: this is about population control and breaking down the nuclear family.

furthermore - male homosexual sex is by far the #1 way to contract AIDS - so the more who engage in it, the more who get it and die - this is about EUGENICS.

I like to think that the political parties long ago figured out that they can screw everyone else longer and harder if they constantly jerk us around a couple different issues. Issues such as abortion, gay rights, immigration laws, gun control policies, and decriminalization of drugs could have been figured out long, long ago and forgotten about already if they didn't have any incentive to grind on those issues for the last couple decades and drastically increase the size of the government in the process.

There's an incentive to support feminism in the government because feminism wants to replace the husband of the nuclear family unit with the government, which naturally increases government size, revenue, and jobs because the government has more responsibility with all the social programs and the blatant fucking over of men in the judicial system. They also get to employ all those worthless majors with government jobs and the cycle continues.

[Fredster]

I think the gov and feminist would want women to indulged in lesbianism as a form of population control because there is no inherent male or female shaming against it, us guys find it hot and even pop culture and porn promotes it.So it is just that much more easier. I am against this because it is clear manipulation by feminists and gov .

Where as straight women and straight males do not get off to gay porn, straight men shame against it, women use it as an excuse to justify why a guy is not attracted to them ...basically the Men' right's movement and manosphere should accept gay guys in and show appreciation of gay guys so we can get more gay guys form the feminists over to our side.

And we all know gay guys are immune to female mind tricks because they are not attracted to them in the first place. What great weapons they will make against feminist,lol.

[TheRookie]

I think this guy in the Telegraph summed it up best a couple of weeks ago:

Quote:

Gay marriage is now the issue through which the elite advertises its superiority over the redneck masses

Most middle Americans I know don't hate gays, they just find the lifestyle distasteful and don't want their noses rubbed in it. I agree with them.

[speakeasy]

(03-25-2013 10:34 PM)TheRookie Wrote:  

I think this guy in the Telegraph summed it up best a couple of weeks ago:

Quote:

Gay marriage is now the issue through which the elite advertises its superiority over the redneck masses

Most middle Americans I know don't hate gays, they just find the lifestyle distasteful and don't want their noses rubbed in it. I agree with them.

Interesting article. That's an angle I hadn't read before.

Here's a thought experiment to give to your liberal friends. Ask them this:

"Do you have any preference that your child be born straight? Of course I realize that you would be completely accepting if your kid were born gay, but if you could choose, would you have any preference to have a straight kid?"

A good liberal will say something like, "I don't care! What does it matter?"

Then you can retort, "Suppose it was a choice between your kid being born a hermaphrodite or being born sexually normal?" The hamster wheel will spin so fast you'll see sparks flying. They may get angry and storm away at this point.

I think what divides liberals from conservatives when you scratch the surface is that they feel that homosexuality is normal, natural and healthy. That nature intended for some to be gay and some to be straight and no sexual orientation is any preferable than the other. It is 100% equal to heterosexuality. The fact that penis and penis don't fit together has no bearing. It's about how you "feel" inside. Conservatives tend to come from a position that something is wrong with gays. Either mentally wrong, morally wrong or biologically wrong. That it is definitely not NORMAL or desirable behavior. Something we may tolerate, but not promote as equal in every way to heterosexuality. Now I wouldn't say it's morally wrong. In some cases it may be mentally wrong such as extreme feminists that decide to become lesbians because they hate men so much. I think a case can be made that is biologically wrong. Research seems to be leading to the conclusion that homosexuality is caused by too much estrogen in the uterus during pregnancy. Women that take diet pills for example are more likely to have gay kids as it fucks with their estrogen levels. Lesbians are produced when a female gets under the amount of estrogen she needs.

At some point in the future modern medicine may be able to correct estrogen levels in the womb and eradicate homosexuality. I bet the liberals will throw a hissy fit over it and compare it to Nazi eugenics.

[Therapsid]

(03-25-2013 09:39 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

What's happening is the media right now is in a feeding frenzy over gay issues. They are clutching at any little thing that might push gay tolerance is front line news. And it's at a relentless fever pitch. They are totally trying to turn this into 1965 Montgomery, Alabama. Difference is, whites were hanging blacks from trees and making them drink from separate water fountains. In 2013 nobody really gives a fuck about what gays do in their bedroom anymore.

I feel like going out and buying 20 Chic-fil-A sandwiches right now.

This is such an astute comment, that it blows away everything written about gay issues in the mainstream media.

Gay rights are being pushed in a kind of full-court press by the media right now. If Rip Van Winkle had fallen asleep just ten years ago and had woken up now, he'd be fucking flabbergasted that every sitcom and romantic comedy not only has gay characters, but gay protagonists who are "married" and have adopted kids. He'd be surprised that suddenly fag jokes were equivalent to using the n word. Of course we don't have to imagine such a scenario because many men returning from abroad in Asia, Eastern Europe, or Latin America will experience such a revelation upon returning stateside.

Homosexuality is being used as a battering ram to emasculate men in this country and to eviscerate traditional gender roles.

In a way, we might invite the successful conclusion of the farcical gay civil rights era of the 2000's. If the original civil rights era is any precedent, the issue will die down to some extent once gay marriage is constitutionally protected and the Republican Party jettisons any residual opposition to the normalization of homosexuality.