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The power of having a mentor
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The power of having a mentor

For the past 3 months or so, I have been deeply focused on the game of pool. I have always loved the game, but it was after reading this blogpost from Robert Greene a couple of years ago that i really got fascinated with the game of pool.
http://powerseductionandwar.com/angles-h...d-suckers/

I could not have dreamed of being on the level I am at today, if it wasn't for an older friend and colleague of mine, who is 27 year old. He is a living strategist, and actually a former hustler. In his younger days, he was selling drugs, and broke into homes, and was in a gang of criminals. He has been playing pool for the last 10 years in bars all around Copenhagen. He is not a master, but he has a keen eye for the table, and he is on a very high level.

I came into this as a sucker, but after 3 months of really listening to every single word of his, and trying to emulate his way of playing, i have really gained some skills. First of all, i observed his game. I looked at how he held the cue stick. I looked at how he made his bridges. I looked at his stance. I emulated all that, and now I'm trying to figure out the whole game of spinning the ball. I watch him, and i listen.
Of course i could've been stubborn, and try to figure it all out by myself. But i opened my mind, and deeply observed, instead of letting my ego get away with me. I acknowledged, that I was dimensions behind him in this game, and that he was the one who could teach me. I could have figured these skills out myself, but i would've needed 6 months instead of 3. I listen to this guy, as i listened to my father when he taught me how to drive a bike. Eagerness to learn, and deeply dependent on him to learn the essentials.

Many people are to proud to just open up, listen and pay attention to someone who are better than themselves. Thier egos are too fragile to admit, that someone else shines brighter than themselves. I see a lot of guys that wont listen, because they feel inferior if they are not good enough themselves. Also - few are willing to really ask for help.

How does this relate to game?(be aware, that the above mentioned friend, is another person than the one in the text below)

When I found David Deangelo, Mystery and Neil Strauss for the first time in 2009, i had fucked 2 girls. I read a lot of game books, and failed misarebly. I really failed with girls, after one long term relationsship of comfort, when i was 14 and 15 year old (I first had sex at 14). Then i sought out some players, to teach me the deal.
I was lucky that i found the best player in my little town. I was 17 and he was 21. His freinds claimed that he had a 100 notches, and of course, i didn't really believe them. He had a hot girlfriend, and he was kind of cold, and rough with a tattoo on his neck. I was a little scared of him to begin with. How could a guy, that was 5,8 like myself, have such a hot tall girlfriend?
A new friend from my highschool, introduced me to these guys, and invited me to a party, where this player dude was. Somehow, I had a good chemestry with this guy, and one day I boldly asked him to help me, and mentor me. I did this in a long facebook message, and he happily agreed to help me. I couldn't believe it at the time, as my self-esteem wasn't good. he helped me with my 3rd notch, which was a girl with a boyfriend, who had practically friendzoned me. My new mentor proved his legitity by guiding me into her pants. 1 month, and I had made the biggestt turnaround of fortune in my life, thanks to him.
Since I asked him to be my mentor in the summer of 2010, i have collected 45 notches. I listened with all of my body, when i was around him. I absorbed his attitude, and to be honest, some part of me, became him, and still is. First of all i could see that my timidity around women dissapeared slowly. I had seen him in action, because we began to go out together, and he was completely free. He grabbed girls, grabbed thier asses, grabbed thier boobs, and they seemed totally enslaved by him. I could only see this on the surface. My eyes weren't yet trained to see all the nuances of his interactions. He guided me to a lot of notches, and as soon as last new years eve, he gave me a notch, as he physically took me and a girl, and put us together in a room. I would have gotten nowhere if it wasn't for him. He is my best friend to this day, and hopefully a life long friend. I started out as a younger, inferior guy, but now an equal friendship has evolved in the past three years. 4 days ago, he fathered a daughter, and thereby, he completed his biological purpose in life, to survive long enough to reproduce.

When in the field, you can absorb your mentors actions, his attitude, his vibe etc. Maybe what you thought was impossible, now seems realistic and real. When I hang out with my player friend, i still get amazed after 3 years of knowing him. He moves my boundaries of what is possible and his social freedoom is so inspiring that it pushes me out of my shell.

I believe that the book "The game" is also about this mentor-Apprentice relationsship between Erik Von Markovic and Neil Strauss. Neil soaks up the game of Mystery, and has a relatively short learning process. You can always discuss the amount of truth in that book. But i do believe that Mystery gets a lot of hot girls, and i think that Neil is a great writer. Really Enjoyed his book about Motley Crue.

Pocket science:
Our brains are evolutionarily designed to immitate others, and learning by observing. Babies have this openess of the mind, so they can learn language, motorics etc. They are totally fragile, and totally open for influence. The older we grow, the more stubborn we can get. We close our minds, and stop paying attention. Maybe things get to trivial, or we get so confident on our own beliefs and methods, that we stop learning from others.

Our brains are equipped with some special kinds of neurons called mirror neurons, and they eneble us to empathize, to mimic, to learn language, and to decieve each other. Our brains are designed to learn through repetition, and through obervation of others. As we are social animals, we have this this innate power to absorb the attutide, and the knowledge of others. It's a kind of learning by osmosis, and it is in my opinion the ultimate way to gain skills in any department of life.

Historical examples.

Mentor: Sigmund Freud. Apprentice: Carl Jung.
Mentor: Aristotle. Apprentice: Alexander The Great.
Mentor: Socrates. Apprentice: Plato.
Mentor: Dr. Dre. Apprentice: Eminem.
Mentor: Lenin. Apprentice: Stalin.

Those examples speak for themselves. If one reads a little history, it is easy to find examples all through out history.

Reversal:
All the nights I went out alone, were so valuable because it gave me self reliance, and it was a kind of an emotional deathground. For 3 months when i moved to the big city, without knowing anybody at all, I could only rely on myself for pussy. It forced my mind to be creative and focused. I litteraly had no friends. The power of trying out things on your own, and forcing yourself to action, is extremely valuable.
Actually I think it was Thomas Edison who didn't really have a mentor. He was purely self made.

My questions to you guys:

Who taught you game?

Do you have a mentor, and if not, why don't you have one?

To some of the true players out there, do you have an apprentice?

This is my opinion:
The ulitimate way of having balls, is to admit ones own shortcomings, and ask for help. You don't turn to others out of weakness, but out of strength.
I believe that the internet is full of wise men with invaluable advice. But, all the nuances of learning from a person to person interaction is lost through the internet. The mirror neurons simply needs real life experiences to learn in the best possible fashion.

You can discuss. Let us hear some of your mentor-apprentice relationsships.

Further reading:
http://artofmanliness.com/2009/02/15/mentors-for-men/
http://artofmanliness.com/2009/06/02/30-...-a-mentor/


My mentor:
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Me:
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The girl i slept with last night. She is one of those few danish girls that treat my like a man, and who never have opinions, who is kind, loving and caressing. Her personality is just what i love in a woman. She is a human lie detector though. She is even more sweet than my half polish, half danish ex-girlfriend. Wouldn't have slept with her for the last 1 and a half year, without my mentor:
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The power of having a mentor

I agree with the power of mentors. I haven't been able to get going on it as well as I wanted, but I had an idea on how to foster Red Pill groups in real life, not just on the internet.

Part I: the need for it http://alphaisassumed.wordpress.com/2012...-morpheus/

Part II: expansion on I
http://alphaisassumed.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/zion/

Part III: nuts and bolts
http://alphaisassumed.wordpress.com/2013...a-society/

Part IV: postscript
http://alphaisassumed.wordpress.com/2013...ta-rising/

My biggest hurdles to getting this going are time and technical know-how. I've had a couple of people express interest thus far, but not enough to begin in earnest. However, if anybody's interested, please let me know (especially if you think you could help with the computer stuff).

Anyhow, thanks for calling attention to a very important and under-recognized part of game.

PS: Socrates apprenticed Plato, who in turn apprenticed Aristotle (who I think was actually the best of the three).
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The power of having a mentor

I wish I had a mentor growing up. I didn't even have a father. Everything I learned in life was the hard, long way. I try to be a mentor whenever I can. It's the primary reason I am on here but as my last post tells, this can be complicated too.
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The power of having a mentor

Quote: (03-17-2013 01:05 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

I wish I had a mentor growing up. I didn't even have a father.

Nomad77,

It some ways it was better for you to not have a father. My father was so beta that I learned negative game from him.

I saw my father get played by my mother, who after cheating on him left him for no particularly good reason. My father, bottom line, was too beta to keep that marriage together. After that, my father got in to a marriage where he is completely pussywhipped and gives her all of the control.

I learned absolutely no game from him; he taught me blue pill BS like "there is the one and only for you", "always do what the woman tells you to do", "just be yourself to find a woman", etc.

As a result, I had no game whatsoever. I wasn't just beta--I was omega. If there was a letter after Omega in the Greek alphabet, I would have been it.

Instead of enjoying my 20s, I was in a perpetual state of pathetic, emotionally very painful oneitis with girls who gave me attention but were not sexually interested in me. I would be crying and crying over some random chick for six months then within a couple of years finding some other chick who I repeated the same oneitis cycle with.

Back in college, there just were not Red Pill communities out there. Before the Internet was around, finding a mentor for a beta to become an alpha just did not happen. Even with the early Internet, there weren't alt.fan.rooshv Usenet groups out there where blue pill people could take the Red Pill.
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The power of having a mentor

This is basically the premise of his latest book "Mastery."

Here is his basic formula: talent/desire + Shit ton of work (i.e. 10,000 hour rule which he mentions in his book) + Proper mentorship = Mastery
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The power of having a mentor

@Placer No, my father was a player. I didn't grow up with him but I he was around later in my life.
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The power of having a mentor

Quote: (03-17-2013 10:25 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

my father was a player

Did he teach you any game?
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The power of having a mentor

Nope, he was too old by then.
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The power of having a mentor

Great post.

Feminists like Peggy Drexler who attempt to minimize the impact of fathers on the lives of their sons are deliberately attempting to keep boys from having mentors. All the better for the boys to be indoctrinated into being useful idiots by the blue-pill feminist schools and media.

Now, more than ever, mentors are needed. I spent a lot of time in my life mentoring someone and thinking I wasted my time. But I checked in recently and it turned out he's now living much like I did at his age and is doing really well -- a far cry from the prison future everyone imagined for him. Sometimes it takes years for this stuff to pay off.
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The power of having a mentor

Quote: (03-18-2013 12:37 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

Nope, he was too old by then.

The old ones are often the best players.
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The power of having a mentor

Too busy getting drunk and wasted.
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