[jammer]

If you are the guys in this position, would you choose the golddiger route? Some of these dudes come off as beta, but at least some of them had enough game to marry a hot chick not some mediocre looking cougar trophy wife.

[j r]

There is absolutely nothing to be gained by going the sugar daddy/simp route. These guys can smile and show off for the camera, but none of these marriages will last. Basically these guys are spending millions of dollars for a few years of sex and arm candy. It's a terrible investment. They'd be better off with actual whores.

Pussy is a depreciating asset. If you're going to commit serious resources and years of your life to a woman, it should be for better reasons.

[scorpion]

Wow. Pretty sickening. Straight up wealth porn. All of those girls are one sucker removed from working the pole for a living, and not one of them realizes it.

The worst though is that car dealer. Dude is loaded and has the alpha look, but is beta to the core for that chick, who is a dolled up 7 at best. Promoting your 28 year old trophy wife over your 31 year old son and letting her boss him around is some shameful shit.

This is basically what you can expect when you have money without game. You'll get hustled into marriage with an 8 or 9, and she will proceed to spend as much of your money as possible, boss you around and generally be a complete pain in your ass with her attitude of entitlement. She'll have your kid after a few years, then hit you with the divorce papers after she's ready to move on.

To top it off, I bet those dudes are hitting that pussy once a week, at best.

Money without game is a recipe for disaster. It's like putting a 16 year old kid behind the wheel of a Ferrari. The women you attract at that level of wealth will run circles around any guy without strong game. A beta chode is a beta chode regardless of how much money he's got in his bank account. These chicks smell blood in the water when they see a simp with money.

[Merenguero]

(03-05-2013 11:50 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

The worst though is that car dealer. Dude is loaded and has the alpha look, but is beta to the core for that chick, who is a dolled up 7 at best. Promoting your 28 year old trophy wife over your 31 year old son and letting her boss him around is some shameful shit.

The silver lining is that I can tell that the car dealer's son thinks his dad is a complete Beta and that he will never make the same mistake.

[bacon]

the common theme is that these guys are on their 3rd or 4th marriage. so if you ask me they cant be with a woman for any small period of time without getting hitched(beta recognized). these guys are also 40-50 plus so their parents generation stayed married for life so they probably still think that marriage is the only route to take in relationships.

[Merenguero]

(03-05-2013 11:55 AM)bacon Wrote:  

the common theme is that these guys are on their 3rd or 4th marriage. so if you ask me they simply cant image being with a woman for any small period of time without getting hitched.

Also, girls like that see guys like that as easy prey when they know they have been married and divorced three, four, or five times.

[presidentcarter]

These women are just the highest paid personnel on the guy's payroll. Outside of their businesses, these guys require a mother figure to organize their lives, order them and their kids around, decorate the house, and keep their beta sexual appetite at bay. They're Super Betas outside of their business. I've seen it in real life...a self-made guy worth millions that's with a waitress and she runs his life. Sells his exotic car without him even knowing because "he doesn't need it and doesn't take care of it" and decided that they needed "matching Range Rovers" instead.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-05-2013 12:28 PM)presidentcarter Wrote:  

These women are just the highest paid personnel on the guy's payroll. Outside of their businesses, these guys require a mother figure to organize their lives, order them and their kids around, decorate the house, and keep their beta sexual appetite at bay. They're Super Betas outside of their business. I've seen it in real life...a self-made guy worth millions that's with a waitress and she runs his life. Sells his exotic car without him even knowing because "he doesn't need it and doesn't take care of it" and decided that they needed "matching Range Rovers" instead.

Yeah, they would be better off with a couple of maids and a rotation of hookys.

[j r]

$60Gs a year, plus expenses can get you a cute 24yr old personal assistant to organize your life and flirt with you to make you feel like you're somebody. Shit, even if your assistant ends up ripping you off, it will cost less than a gold-digging ex wife.

These guys are doing it all wrong.

Here's the real question: would you do business with guys? How could you trust that they're not completely incompetent?

[Merenguero]

It would be funny as hell if all of these guys' houses were under water, all of their cars were overfinanced, none of their businesses were making any money, and all of the goods which they are "buying" for these women were all paid for credit cards which have multi-million dollar balances. In that case, I would have to say that these guys actually have great game and at least are not Beta, naive, or stupid in the least. It wouldn't surprise me one bit. The more material possessions I see, the more suspicious I get.

[porscheguy]

She doesn't like the car dealer's kid because she sees him as an obstacle. He's the father's voice of reason. She see's it and will do anything to damage that relationship. Like the father pointed out, he's the best salesman, and yet his wife is there saying he ought to be fired. But I blame the old man for placing her in a position over the son if the old man thinks the son is perfectly capable of taking over the business that very day.

[MikeCF]

(03-05-2013 01:28 PM)j r Wrote:  

Here's the real question: would you do business with guys? How could you trust that they're not completely incompetent?

Competency is contextual. A guy who is good with business may be bad with women and vice versa.

Would you do business with the same guys you kick it with? I know a lot of deadbeat players...

[Veloce]

Those chicks aren't even that hot. Dime a dozen in L.A. Take off all the makeup and lets see what they look like in the morning.

You can find much hotter girls, broke and fresh off the boat from Michigan, working as hostesses or waitresses all over this city. Restaurant game isn't easy, but it's free.

[j r]

(03-05-2013 02:33 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 01:28 PM)j r Wrote:  

Here's the real question: would you do business with guys? How could you trust that they're not completely incompetent?

Competency is contextual. A guy who is good with business may be bad with women and vice versa.

Would you do business with the same guys you kick it with? I know a lot of deadbeat players...

It's not about being bad with women. I'd sooner do business with a low-key beta who's married to a homely woman than with one of these guys. Any dude who drops quarter of a million dollars on his wife's shoe collection is either a fool or is playing a fool. I'm wary of both.

[RASER]

LOL, 3rd & 4th marriage and they still not have learned anything

They deserve to be wallet raped

"Lifes about, shooting your load"

[jammer]

(03-05-2013 04:30 PM)j r Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 02:33 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 01:28 PM)j r Wrote:  

Here's the real question: would you do business with guys? How could you trust that they're not completely incompetent?

Competency is contextual. A guy who is good with business may be bad with women and vice versa.

Would you do business with the same guys you kick it with? I know a lot of deadbeat players...

It's not about being bad with women. I'd sooner do business with a low-key beta who's married to a homely woman than with one of these guys. Any dude who drops quarter of a million dollars on his wife's shoe collection is either a fool or is playing a fool. I'm wary of both.

IIRC thats the guy who is a billionaire. At this point nothing she can do can hurt his wallet so he doesn't care.

[Matt3B]

Oh God, toxic beta body language coupled with the money grabbing, plastic and vacant death stare from these women is too much for me. I couldn't even last 2 minutes watching that video.

First bitch said she was 27, I would've put her in mid 30s and you just know she's fucking the South American pool boy and the European gardener. Her acting when she said "third time's a charm" made my soul hurt.

Stupid cunts, they deserve what's eventually coming to them.

[Matt3B]

(03-05-2013 02:46 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

Those chicks aren't even that hot. Dime a dozen in L.A. Take off all the makeup and lets see what they look like in the morning.

You can find much hotter girls, broke and fresh off the boat from Michigan, working as hostesses or waitresses all over this city. Restaurant game isn't easy, but it's free.

It's not that bad.

There's always that one constant in these types of stories and it's that the broads aren't even that hot. The blonde one with fake tits and a cleavage like the parted Red Sea isn't, never was, and won't ever be a trophy wife. What's that saying, you can polish a piece of shit but at the end of the day it's still a piece of shit.

I bet these women don't even let their husbands see them in the mornings without their make up on.

Not exactly a great poster for the young, wannabe entrepreneurs. Make a billion dollars and you're still a bitch.

[MikeCF]

(03-05-2013 04:30 PM)j r Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 02:33 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 01:28 PM)j r Wrote:  

Here's the real question: would you do business with guys? How could you trust that they're not completely incompetent?

Competency is contextual. A guy who is good with business may be bad with women and vice versa.

Would you do business with the same guys you kick it with? I know a lot of deadbeat players...

It's not about being bad with women. I'd sooner do business with a low-key beta who's married to a homely woman than with one of these guys. Any dude who drops quarter of a million dollars on his wife's shoe collection is either a fool or is playing a fool. I'm wary of both.

Im curious...How old are you?

I know so many people just a few years older than me who drop that kind of cash on hos.

250K on shoes might seem like a lot when you're 18 or even 25. But if you live in a rich place like LA or SF....It's really not that shocking.

Dropping cash like that says nothing about their professional competency. In fact the opposite is true. They only have all that money to blow precisely because they are good at running their businesses.

[MikeCF]

(03-05-2013 04:39 PM)RASER Wrote:  

LOL, 3rd & 4th marriage and they still not have learned anything

I know guys like in that vid. I've had these conversations.

They do know. They just don't care.

It's hard to explain how rich guys are just, "Fuck it" when it comes to money and women.

A 250K shoe collections seems like a lot to you and me.

But when I go to the Whole Foods hot bar, that would have been a lot of money to my college-aged self.

To those guys, buying shoes is like going to the WF hot bar.

Getting a divorce might be a few million, but to them it's like what going on vacation is to us.

There is so much wealth...When you have a lot you tend to just not give a fuck as much.

When you stack cash paying money to fly women out and even sometimes marrying them is just...whatever. "Charge it to the game."

Hell, even look at this forum. How often do you hear older guys asking about "cost per notch" or whatever? Older guys tend to have more cash and just don't worry about that shit as much.

I'm not even rich, but I have enough that I'm not doing the math on bar tabs and drinks bought in order to get a notch. Due to a logistical problem, once the difference between getting a bang and not was getting a hotel on the spot. Was that beta? What if I ordered some room service? Am I being played like a chump?

Now I know it's fun for us to look down on those guys, especially when they have so much more money than us. Shitting on them gives us a way of feeling superior to them. And I'm not trying to be a buzz kill and end the hating party.

But the reality is that they have so much money that they just don't care about what they spend on cars, planes, and women.

It might be a better idea to find out how to get rich rather than trying to feed our ego's that we are better than they are.

[MikeCF]

(03-05-2013 02:29 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

She doesn't like the car dealer's kid because she sees him as an obstacle. He's the father's voice of reason. She see's it and will do anything to damage that relationship. Like the father pointed out, he's the best salesman, and yet his wife is there saying he ought to be fired. But I blame the old man for placing her in a position over the son if the old man thinks the son is perfectly capable of taking over the business that very day.

Also the son is riding his daddy's coat tails.

One thing nice about being from a poor family is I never had to suck up to mom or dad.

When you see rich kids, you think they are lucky. But they kiss a lot of ass to stay in their family's good graces. Mom and dad manipulate them. It's not easy money.

If some bitch came into my office with that cunt's attitude, I'd walk out of the job.

So the son is prostituting his dignity to be paid above market wages from daddy. He is being a whore to some cumslut rather than his own man.

In a lot of ways, that son is worse than his dad's wife. The woman is just doing what she evolved to do. The son is being a bitch by choice.

He should start his own gig and be his own man. That or get used to kissing red-soled shoes.

I know what I would do.

[j r]

(03-05-2013 08:54 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Dropping cash like that says nothing about their professional competency. In fact the opposite is true. They only have all that money to blow precisely because they are good at running their businesses.

Or they're living entirely outside of their means in an attempt to create the illusion that they are more successful than they really are.

[MikeCF]

(03-05-2013 09:07 PM)j r Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 08:54 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Dropping cash like that says nothing about their professional competency. In fact the opposite is true. They only have all that money to blow precisely because they are good at running their businesses.

Or they're living entirely outside of their means in an attempt to create the illusion that they are more successful than they really are.

It's nice to think that. But you don't get a black card by being broke. Black card requires minimum spend of 250K a year and is invite only and requires some verification of assets. If a guy has a black card, chances are he's doing OK.

It's hard to see someone has more money in a year than we might have in our entire lives. We get what's called "status anxiety." We want to find a way to put ourselves above them. So we say that those guys are chumps or that they are living beyond their means.

But the truth is that in places like LA, SF, nd NY, there are people minting money.

The "pain" of spending is always measured based on percentage of income. If you're raking in tens of millions a year, what's 250K in shoes?

I personally would never get legally married again, but then again I'm not filthy rich.

A lot of money gives many guys a, "Fuck it, I'll get screwed but who cares," attitude.

[j r]

(03-05-2013 09:15 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 09:07 PM)j r Wrote:  

(03-05-2013 08:54 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Dropping cash like that says nothing about their professional competency. In fact the opposite is true. They only have all that money to blow precisely because they are good at running their businesses.

Or they're living entirely outside of their means in an attempt to create the illusion that they are more successful than they really are.

It's nice to think that. But you don't get a black card by being broke. Black card requires minimum spend of 250K a year and is invite only and requires some verification of assets. If a guy has a black card, chances are he's doing OK.

It's hard to see someone has more money in a year than we might have in our entire lives. We get what's called "status anxiety." We want to find a way to put ourselves above them. So we say that those guys are chumps or that they are living beyond their means.

But the truth is that in places like LA, SF, nd NY, there are people minting money.

The "pain" of spending is always measured based on percentage of income. If you're raking in tens of millions a year, what's 250K in shoes?

I personally would never get legally married again, but then again I'm not filthy rich.

A lot of money gives many guys a, "Fuck it, I'll get screwed but who cares," attitude.

Right. And everyone on reality TV flashing a black card and claiming to be a billionaire is being absolutely honest. There are no people in this world living outside of their means. Everyone is exactly who they say they are.

Those are all nice thoughts I, but I guess I'm just a cynic.

[MikeCF]

(03-05-2013 09:22 PM)j r Wrote:  

Right. And everyone on reality TV flashing a black card and claiming to be a billionaire is being absolutely honest. There are no people in this world living outside of their means. Everyone is exactly who they say they are.

Those are all nice thoughts I, but I guess I'm just a cynic.

Your'e not a cynic. You're just uninformed.

To get a black card you need to spend 250K a year with Amex. That doesn't mean you run a credit card bill, as Amex requires you to pay your statement.

So at the very least a guy is able to run 250K (and pay it back with cash money) on a card. That's on top of housing, cars, and other stuff you can't put on a card. How much cash does a guy need to earn a year to do that? Quite a lot.

You also have to be "invited" by Amex and Amex does an verification and full credit history.

If someone has a black card, it is highly unlikely that they are a job loss away from poverty.

Again, I know what you're doing. You don't want to believe that his life is so much better than yours.

I don't know those geeks and dont' care whether they live or die.

I just think the sentiment here sometimes gets a little negative and hatery.

Far too much attention is spent trying to shit-talk "chumps" rather than finding out how to get our own hustle on.