[RCron]

I don't normally do a lot of night game but when I do I've experienced this a few times. I'll isolate a woman, be talking with her and from out of nowhere a pack of 3-4 amogs will steamroll in and just start talking to her as if she were alone. Typically these guys will already know her in some distant way or have already opened her earlier in the evening. They're loud, very aggressive and most likely drunk.

I'm fairly low energy in my approaches but am pretty quick on my feet and can handle a single smog but when these packs come in it knocks me out of frame and I'm not sure how to stay in control.

Since I always roll solo what can I do in these situations when I'm clearly outnumbered?

[alphanov]

You better build enough attraction before something else captures her attention. For me it's easy, because I'm a foreigner from a weird country, so as soon as I open my mouth, they're already curious about my accent. If somebody starts cockblocking, she often introduces me to them, then I'm in a position to socialize with the entire group.

[TheWolfHowls]

That's a hell of a tough situation. At that point, i'd just reinitiate conversation and then try to isolate her as if you stay there and try to compete, it'll be tough since you got 4 other guys to worry about. If she doesn't do it, she might not had been that attracted in the first place.

[RCron]

Thanks guys. In those few times where this has happened to me it was very early in the interaction and not much of a connection had been established. I basically treated the situation as a simple rejection, on par with a woman turning her back on me since her attention was diverted to the guys moving in.

[Yano]

I'm a sophmore in Uni now and deal with AMOGs frequently. I usually give them a compliment. This disarms them. In other words, make pseudo allies with the AMOG.

For a group of AMOGs that come up to the girl I've been macking on at a house party, I will usually give the most alpha one a compliment with something like "Dude, sick (whatever item of clothing/accessory). You are going to get so much poon tonight."

The other AMOGs will all look at whatever you complimented and 2 things usually happen:

1) The other AMOGs will begin to brood thoughts of insecurity. Game over.

2) The AMOGs that weren't complimented will begin to either lower the complimented AMOG's value or try to qualify themselves in front of the girl that you are with.

Either way, you display the highest value.

[Jaylow]

The times this happened to me one of the guys (almost always the smaller one) started talking shit and insulting me. I just become more aggressive but I am also bigger than the average dude. I still think this would work for anyone though as long as you don't show any fear and dominate the shit talk. Its a dance just like picking up a girl is.

One thing you have to understand about dudes at bars is that 98% of the time they are putting on a show to impress a girl and if you call them on their bullshit they will back down. Almost no one wants to get into a fight, and a group of 4 dudes, at least 2 of them are pussies. The ones you got to watch out for is the solo guy that gets in your face or a duo. They don't act boisterous and over aggressive, they are always calm and stare you down. They don't swear or call you names, they just verbally get in your face. Those are the dudes you actually have to be afraid of because they know how to fight and have been in this situation so many times before which is why they are so calm.

One more thing I will add is that if anyone interrupts me they are going to hear about it. If 4 dudes roll up on me and a solo chick I would tell them they are being rude and have no social skills. Most of the time one of them will say something on the lines of "ok man go ahead" kind of sarcastically and then I will just talk for as long as I possibly can with no break in the conversation. If you give a chance for the girl to speak as they wait the guy will interrupt her so give no one a chance say a word. Ive had 2-3 dudes sit there waiting on me multiple times for a few minutes before they just walked away.

[ChocolateCockOfZeus]

I'm not BS'ing when I say this: If it's just random dudes, pick her up, and carry her away from them. Or just take her by the hands and pull her away. Be ready to perform block outs too. Blow outs happen, but it's better to be blown out by the girl than pushed out by a pack of chodes.

If it's her friends: disarm them like the guys above said.

The low energy approach in night game is part of the problem. Some dude is probably looking at you thinking you're boring the poor girl to death and it's his job to save her. One thing I've learned in gaming is to go into mixed sets and talk to everyone and ask how they know each other. You'd be surprised how many guys are: gay friends, LJBF guys, and guys she just met there. After awhile you can just tell who's what. I still try to be cool about it and show some courtesy, but some guys just say fuck it.

Easiest ways to spot a non-bf/guy she's not fucking: There's no touching going on. She's looking around like she's checking "things' out. He's standing there with a beer to his chest looking like he's drawing a blank. There's no touching going on. He might be drinking a girly drink with umbrellas and shit. She's NOT laughing. Eye contact is piss poor. His looking around because he doesn't know what else to do while she's playing on her phone. They're having a safe, non-threatening conversation at the bar. She doesn't look like she's in danger of being fucked.

Those are perfect times to jump in and do your thing. Do you do any of those things? If so: STOP! Get physical fast.

[Greek kamaki]

Position is very important.You have to have excellent position to block the other guys with your body.If they approach from a different angle do not abandon your position.Stay where you are and engage the girl later.They will try to push you out of your advantageous position usually by pushing or sandwiching you to come close to the girl.

Classic tricks to avoid the AMOG interference:
1.Get the phone number early before the AMOGs come
2.Wait for the AMOGs to finish their conversation and reengage the girl (she will be happy that you saved her from them if you handle the situation good enough.Calibration of the AMOGs plays great role)
3.Confuse the AMOG about your real capabilities. He has not to realise that you are a player otherwise he will confront you straight physically or take the girl from the arm
4.Never let other dudes hear what you tell a girl.Not even see your lips.I often talk in languages the nearby dudes do not understand (if the girl speaks German and is out of her native country talk to her in German and not in English.If she is from Poland and is outside Poland talk to her in polish.If you are among Russians talk in English and if you are outside FSU talk in Russian).

[RCron]

Thanks again guys, I think the main issue for me as I mentioned before was not having much of a physical connection established already and therefore not being able to lead the girl out of the situation. I could also stand to tighten my game and up my energy level so that her body language shows interest instead of indifference thereby inviting an interloper.

[King Solomon]

tase them