[Every10GivesMeA10]

MisterFresh,

Any tips for non-French speakers in Paris?

[MisterFresh]

Learn French?

or stick to one of the 18 million tourists that visit each year

[thegmanifesto]

(03-01-2013 12:44 PM)MisterFresh Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 12:01 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

MisterFresh -

Thanks for the info.

You seem to have a little venom and negativity underlining in your posts.

How about positiving it up a little?

Bust out some concrete data. Which bars, restaurants and nightclubs are best?

Which nights?

Which is the best hood to get an apartment in?

etc

You are right that I have a sweet-and-sour feeling towards my birthplace. However I have lived in other cities which were generally easier, and I think everything I say is grounded in reality. In general, on this forum you will find people that are not fully satisfied with their home, orelse would they have such a strong urge to travel? See what DC natives are saying about DC for example... I'll say that the few American girls that I've met where nice and rather good looking. The grass is always greener, etc.

Nights : Thursday, Friday, Saturday. When I tried to go out on other days, it was empty /closed. On Sunday everything is closed like in a small provincial town. Thursday is student parties.

Afterworks have become trendy in the past few years. This is where people go straight from the office, usually on thursday.

Best spot to get an appartment : ideally, near a metro station, inside the Périphérique, not far from your preferred nightlife cluster.

Paris is a huge city with over 10 million people so you have several nightlife clusters, each of which cater to a specific demographic. I think it's better to think in these terms than in terms of specific location (which will be more or less good depending on the night). So you have in the following areas a few streets with high concentration of bars and clubs:

- Rue Mouffetard area : students.
- Rue Oberkampf area : hipsters. Ex : Alimentation Générale (gotten less good recently)
- Arc de Triomphe / Champs Elysées : upper class, posh clubs, bankers. Ex : Duplex (ok on saturday), Queen
- Odéon : bars for educated people. Ex: Eden Park.
- Pigalle : alternative, immigrants.
- Bastille : students, hipsters.
- Montparnasse : middle-class, students. BackUp is ok on student nights.
- Marais : gay.
- La butte aux cailles (metro corvisart): lots of restaurants and small bars with students.

Sorry for not putting more names but yes Paris is huge and part of the problem is finding the right spot. I've been here for years and I don't pretend to know all the good spots. For each of the areas I mentioned you could write ten pages.

So which is best?

[LostGringo]

(03-03-2013 09:16 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 12:44 PM)MisterFresh Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 12:01 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

MisterFresh -

Thanks for the info.

You seem to have a little venom and negativity underlining in your posts.

How about positiving it up a little?

Bust out some concrete data. Which bars, restaurants and nightclubs are best?

Which nights?

Which is the best hood to get an apartment in?

etc

You are right that I have a sweet-and-sour feeling towards my birthplace. However I have lived in other cities which were generally easier, and I think everything I say is grounded in reality. In general, on this forum you will find people that are not fully satisfied with their home, orelse would they have such a strong urge to travel? See what DC natives are saying about DC for example... I'll say that the few American girls that I've met where nice and rather good looking. The grass is always greener, etc.

Nights : Thursday, Friday, Saturday. When I tried to go out on other days, it was empty /closed. On Sunday everything is closed like in a small provincial town. Thursday is student parties.

Afterworks have become trendy in the past few years. This is where people go straight from the office, usually on thursday.

Best spot to get an appartment : ideally, near a metro station, inside the Périphérique, not far from your preferred nightlife cluster.

Paris is a huge city with over 10 million people so you have several nightlife clusters, each of which cater to a specific demographic. I think it's better to think in these terms than in terms of specific location (which will be more or less good depending on the night). So you have in the following areas a few streets with high concentration of bars and clubs:

- Rue Mouffetard area : students.
- Rue Oberkampf area : hipsters. Ex : Alimentation Générale (gotten less good recently)
- Arc de Triomphe / Champs Elysées : upper class, posh clubs, bankers. Ex : Duplex (ok on saturday), Queen
- Odéon : bars for educated people. Ex: Eden Park.
- Pigalle : alternative, immigrants.
- Bastille : students, hipsters.
- Montparnasse : middle-class, students. BackUp is ok on student nights.
- Marais : gay.
- La butte aux cailles (metro corvisart): lots of restaurants and small bars with students.

Sorry for not putting more names but yes Paris is huge and part of the problem is finding the right spot. I've been here for years and I don't pretend to know all the good spots. For each of the areas I mentioned you could write ten pages.

So which is best?

This is the best;

Book a room at the Hotel Crillon

Take your evening drinks at the Bar du Crillon.

Then, solo or with your new friend, move next door to the Buddha Bar. Take a seat at the bar, select vintage or NV from the extensive champagne list........ and hold court.

When you meet the model of your choice, take her to Laurent - two Michelin stars - for lunch or dinner the next day. You can walk from the hotel.

Dress very well.

[MisterFresh]

(03-03-2013 10:33 PM)LostGringo Wrote:  

Book a room at the Hotel Crillon

Take your evening drinks at the Bar du Crillon.

Then, solo or with your new friend, move next door to the Buddha Bar. Take a seat at the bar, select vintage or NV from the extensive champagne list........ and hold court.

When you meet the model of your choice, take her to Laurent - two Michelin stars - for lunch or dinner the next day. You can walk from the hotel.

Dress very well.

aka Fat Saudi Game

[LostGringo]

(03-04-2013 04:54 AM)MisterFresh Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 10:33 PM)LostGringo Wrote:  

Book a room at the Hotel Crillon

Take your evening drinks at the Bar du Crillon.

Then, solo or with your new friend, move next door to the Buddha Bar. Take a seat at the bar, select vintage or NV from the extensive champagne list........ and hold court.

When you meet the model of your choice, take her to Laurent - two Michelin stars - for lunch or dinner the next day. You can walk from the hotel.

Dress very well.

aka Fat Saudi Game

Heh, heh. I was going to say Rich Poser Game.

[brucebanner]

I've taken 22nd to the 1st of April off and I am heading to Paris - most probably - for an extended weekend, then if I can Lyon. I am rolling solo from London. Based on what you said, I might end up staying in: Odéon, or Montparnasse / Rue Mouffetard area. Question: Where would you stay?

"Afterworks". Please expand.
I will post my findings.

And I agree, negative remarks should be kept to a minimum. Experiences are very subjective unless it's a sure thing–who likes working with someone who is constantly complaining? Thanks for the info.

[thegmanifesto]

(03-03-2013 10:33 PM)LostGringo Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 09:16 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 12:44 PM)MisterFresh Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 12:01 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

MisterFresh -

Thanks for the info.

You seem to have a little venom and negativity underlining in your posts.

How about positiving it up a little?

Bust out some concrete data. Which bars, restaurants and nightclubs are best?

Which nights?

Which is the best hood to get an apartment in?

etc

You are right that I have a sweet-and-sour feeling towards my birthplace. However I have lived in other cities which were generally easier, and I think everything I say is grounded in reality. In general, on this forum you will find people that are not fully satisfied with their home, orelse would they have such a strong urge to travel? See what DC natives are saying about DC for example... I'll say that the few American girls that I've met where nice and rather good looking. The grass is always greener, etc.

Nights : Thursday, Friday, Saturday. When I tried to go out on other days, it was empty /closed. On Sunday everything is closed like in a small provincial town. Thursday is student parties.

Afterworks have become trendy in the past few years. This is where people go straight from the office, usually on thursday.

Best spot to get an appartment : ideally, near a metro station, inside the Périphérique, not far from your preferred nightlife cluster.

Paris is a huge city with over 10 million people so you have several nightlife clusters, each of which cater to a specific demographic. I think it's better to think in these terms than in terms of specific location (which will be more or less good depending on the night). So you have in the following areas a few streets with high concentration of bars and clubs:

- Rue Mouffetard area : students.
- Rue Oberkampf area : hipsters. Ex : Alimentation Générale (gotten less good recently)
- Arc de Triomphe / Champs Elysées : upper class, posh clubs, bankers. Ex : Duplex (ok on saturday), Queen
- Odéon : bars for educated people. Ex: Eden Park.
- Pigalle : alternative, immigrants.
- Bastille : students, hipsters.
- Montparnasse : middle-class, students. BackUp is ok on student nights.
- Marais : gay.
- La butte aux cailles (metro corvisart): lots of restaurants and small bars with students.

Sorry for not putting more names but yes Paris is huge and part of the problem is finding the right spot. I've been here for years and I don't pretend to know all the good spots. For each of the areas I mentioned you could write ten pages.

So which is best?

This is the best;

Book a room at the Hotel Crillon

Take your evening drinks at the Bar du Crillon.

Then, solo or with your new friend, move next door to the Buddha Bar. Take a seat at the bar, select vintage or NV from the extensive champagne list........ and hold court.

When you meet the model of your choice, take her to Laurent - two Michelin stars - for lunch or dinner the next day. You can walk from the hotel.

Dress very well.

Is that an example of best?

Or most expensive?

[Bad Hussar]

Mister Fresh

What is Paris like for meeting Russian girls? Is it true that Paris, and France, is the preferred destination for rich Russians who want to travel and live outside Russia for a while? I understand that even in the cold War France and Russia, or rather Soviet Union, had cordial relations. It sounds to me like Russians would take quite easily to Paris. In my mind the mentality is similar.

[LostGringo]

(03-04-2013 01:06 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 10:33 PM)LostGringo Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 09:16 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 12:44 PM)MisterFresh Wrote:  

(03-01-2013 12:01 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

MisterFresh -

Thanks for the info.

You seem to have a little venom and negativity underlining in your posts.

How about positiving it up a little?

Bust out some concrete data. Which bars, restaurants and nightclubs are best?

Which nights?

Which is the best hood to get an apartment in?

etc

You are right that I have a sweet-and-sour feeling towards my birthplace. However I have lived in other cities which were generally easier, and I think everything I say is grounded in reality. In general, on this forum you will find people that are not fully satisfied with their home, orelse would they have such a strong urge to travel? See what DC natives are saying about DC for example... I'll say that the few American girls that I've met where nice and rather good looking. The grass is always greener, etc.

Nights : Thursday, Friday, Saturday. When I tried to go out on other days, it was empty /closed. On Sunday everything is closed like in a small provincial town. Thursday is student parties.

Afterworks have become trendy in the past few years. This is where people go straight from the office, usually on thursday.

Best spot to get an appartment : ideally, near a metro station, inside the Périphérique, not far from your preferred nightlife cluster.

Paris is a huge city with over 10 million people so you have several nightlife clusters, each of which cater to a specific demographic. I think it's better to think in these terms than in terms of specific location (which will be more or less good depending on the night). So you have in the following areas a few streets with high concentration of bars and clubs:

- Rue Mouffetard area : students.
- Rue Oberkampf area : hipsters. Ex : Alimentation Générale (gotten less good recently)
- Arc de Triomphe / Champs Elysées : upper class, posh clubs, bankers. Ex : Duplex (ok on saturday), Queen
- Odéon : bars for educated people. Ex: Eden Park.
- Pigalle : alternative, immigrants.
- Bastille : students, hipsters.
- Montparnasse : middle-class, students. BackUp is ok on student nights.
- Marais : gay.
- La butte aux cailles (metro corvisart): lots of restaurants and small bars with students.

Sorry for not putting more names but yes Paris is huge and part of the problem is finding the right spot. I've been here for years and I don't pretend to know all the good spots. For each of the areas I mentioned you could write ten pages.

So which is best?

This is the best;

Book a room at the Hotel Crillon

Take your evening drinks at the Bar du Crillon.

Then, solo or with your new friend, move next door to the Buddha Bar. Take a seat at the bar, select vintage or NV from the extensive champagne list........ and hold court.

When you meet the model of your choice, take her to Laurent - two Michelin stars - for lunch or dinner the next day. You can walk from the hotel.

Dress very well.

Is that an example of best?

Or most expensive?

Well, my best friend lives in Paris, though he's from Dijon. He's flithy rich on account of being one of architects of the bluetooth wireless standard.

He introduced me to both the bar upstairs at the Crillon, and the Buddha bar next door. They are filled with stunning women. They are also very cool bars. I like bars - these are BARS.

I have been to Laurent a couple of times. Its not the best restaurant in Paris, but I defy you to find a more beautiful spot - a 100 meters off the Champs, in a park like setting.

If I had his kind of money - thats how I'd spend it.

MF is wrong on one account, the rag heads prefer to stay at the Ritz, as it owned by one of their own - Al-Fayed. He's right in that your competitors will not be amateurs when it comes to cash..........

[MisterFresh]

(03-04-2013 01:53 PM)Bad Hussar Wrote:  

Mister Fresh
What is Paris like for meeting Russian girls? Is it true that Paris, and France, is the preferred destination for rich Russians who want to travel and live outside Russia for a while? I understand that even in the cold War France and Russia, or rather Soviet Union, had cordial relations. It sounds to me like Russians would take quite easily to Paris. In my mind the mentality is similar.

Well I did meet a Russian girl in Paris, and she was pretty hot. She was a tourist. I also met younger Russians in a bar in Mouffetard (Erasmus students from St Petersburg). And a 2 set in the suburban train. Oh and another with which I practiced Russian for about 2 months. Keeping in touch with them through Facebook in case I go to Russia. Come to think of it, you are probably right. The fascination between France and Russia is mutual and has lasted for a long time.
I don't hang out where the Rich Russians go, but I was looking for a job, and saw many ads for Russian speaking salesmen for luxury products boutiques, so that seems to confirm your theory.

[MisterFresh]

(03-04-2013 02:42 PM)LostGringo Wrote:  

MF is wrong on one account, the rag heads prefer to stay at the Ritz, as it owned by one of their own - Al-Fayed. He's right in that your competitors will not be amateurs when it comes to cash..........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B4tel_...#Ownership

Sadly half of Paris is owned by oil princes. They are amongst the very few who can afford the best of French luxury.

Even the Paris football team has been bought by the Qatar Emir.

[LostGringo]

(03-04-2013 03:51 PM)MisterFresh Wrote:  

(03-04-2013 02:42 PM)LostGringo Wrote:  

MF is wrong on one account, the rag heads prefer to stay at the Ritz, as it owned by one of their own - Al-Fayed. He's right in that your competitors will not be amateurs when it comes to cash..........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B4tel_...#Ownership

Sadly half of Paris is owned by oil princes. They are amongst the very few who can afford the best of French luxury.

Even the Paris football team has been bought by the Qatar Emir.

The Beckham transfer now makes complete sense.........

[MisterFresh]

(03-02-2013 06:37 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

Sorry for the sidetrack. But I want to ask something.

How does being an artist in France work? MisterFresh touched on this in his post. How does the government sponsor art? Do you have to be a member of the Academy - and then you get paid a wage? Or does the government just buy whatever you make for a flat fee per item?

I was reading about it in a book but it didn't go into any specifics. And I have tried using google to find this information - with no success.

Here in the UK - the free market reigns. If you can't sell your art at auction. You are fucked. Unless you have rich parents. Having said that - I guess alot of artists double up as writers and teachers. So that must help.

From what I read - this means the contemporary art scene is more vibrant in the UK than it is in France. It is more dynamic since there is no safety net provided by the government.

Anyway - I would be interested to know more since it it is curious that France and the UK fund art in such different ways.

For artists there is a special type of work contract, "intermittent", which means you can work for 3 months and the state will pay you the remaining 9 months of the year. I'm not sure about the exact terms but that's the concept.
Having rich parents is a big asset here as well. Especially having connections in order to get subsidies for your art project.
In fact many theaters are surviving financially because of state subsidies instead of ticket sales. This has big negative side effects. If you go see a play, it will very likely be post modern remake where actors engage in homo erotic behaviour and wear goth make up (for example). Anything to say "f*** you" to the audience... I've seen at least two "shows" which were deliberately insulting to the audience. So in a way I think the market has its advantages.

[Greek kamaki]

Pick up artistry counts as art in France?

[cardguy]

Cheers for the response. It enabled me to track down the following:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul...s-benefits

[MisterFresh]

(03-05-2013 02:47 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Pick up artistry counts as art in France?

Funny I was just watching old French movies. In the first few minutes of "Les Enfants du Paradis" , you can see some old school street pickup in the streets of Paris. Makes you think how hard it was back then : impossible to number close, required to insta date or set a date right away.

   

Also someone asked for French girls pictures. So here is Carole Bouquet in "That obscure object of desire". I liked that movie, it's very red pill but still open to different interpretations. I think Bouquet is a great example of what a hot French girl tends to look like : thin, and therefore small boobs and small ass, refined face features, dark blond / light brown hair, light makeup, pale skin, a little cold, classy.

   

[Mumbojumbo]

Man I think Paris is underrated!

Just 8 hours after landing I had 3 numbers and 2 upcoming dates without any pipelining!

Opening was a pleasure and talks were lovely. All were very beautiful. It seems Paris has a huge pool of 7s and 8s in the 30-40 age range. Less so below that.

Girl 1 - luggage belt - lovely white girl 32??
Girl 2 - subway, black beauty with relatives from Atlanta, late 20s
Girl 3 - Brasserie - dark complexion, beautiful girl 35???

Note my French is minimal - seems English is finally really proliferating here...

Love this place! Now on to closing

[viajero]

(03-01-2013 08:20 AM)MisterFresh Wrote:  

It has happened to me that I was in a club (Rex), opened 10 sets, and all of them were foreigners. Not sure there even was one French in the whole club.

Thoughts on Rex? Looking for clubs in Paris that combine fun/chance to pull/not overly expensive or difficult at the door.

(03-02-2013 05:58 AM)gadabout Wrote:  

^ nonsense. You could say that about anywhere. Paris has a healthy alternative scene with many student bars and clubs.

gadabout you got any recommendations on spots that fit this kinda scene? Especially nightclubs, bars are easier to find I think.

Thanks

[Pilgrim37]

Is it true there's a shit load of gypsies trawling the tourist spots scamming and robbing tourists these days.??!!

[Sherman]

When I was a college student, I spent a few months in Saint Placide, a section of Paris, and went to the Alliance Francaise to take French lessons. I met a lot of chics there from different countries in Europe.