[lavidaloca]

santiago is large of african descent. I haven't gone there nor would I but not for that reason. It's said to be a violent culture and there are extreme issues there at the moment after the hurricane which left many many families homeless.

camaguey i've been a couple times. There aren't tourist pre-paid packages to camaguey. You'd be getting flight only or staying in Santa Lucia beach in which you could make a long trip into camaguey city which from what I recall was 1.5-2hours but this is a few years ago I did the trip. In Camaguey there are very few tourists comparatively as the city itself doesn't have an all inclusive. I haven't been clubbing there. I have been there during carnival and didn't see much or anything quality.

santa lucia - 4 hotels all AI"s. The entertainment staff and hookers renting places nearby all go to party at a disco after the shows. Hence, there are some very attractive woman at times...but if they there you should be asking yourself why are they there. Many are going there specifically to meet a foreigner. Which could be gold. I saw some kid who was with his dad and he must have been all of 16 or 17. Kid had an equisite 18 or 19 year old ballerina with him at the beach the next day after I saw him with her at this disco.

holguin is my bread and butter. The city has a vast majority of white and mixed race. There is a set schedule where basically people go every week to the same discos. I.e. Nocturno Tuesday / Saturday, Casa de la Musica Friday, Pico Cristal Sunday. That part is nice. But during the day time there is nothing to do. And I mean absolutely nothing. At every LEGAL accomodation you will have to register any girl who comes into the house. Hence, this is a large pain. Some guys just run around with hookers to illegal places but the hookers really aren't up to par with the elite ones in havana as the best ones simply go to havana!

The guys who do best in Holguin are Cubans from abroad without a doubt. English is not widely spoken here. Less touts. Less scams. Issue: Same people are the ones who go out every single night. Hence, it's not so anonymous. If you want to run a rotation you have 2 issues. 1) Girls have to register and only one can be registered at a time hence, you cant have 1 one night another the next. 2) Anywhere you go you will be caught. You won't last a day if you have another girl as a foreigner.

Ciego de avila is beautiful the best casa particular ive ever stayed in was here. Absolutely wonderful for only 20 dollars a night. I plan to explore more here this summer as I have only been to 1 disco here and spent 1 night.

Cayo Coco - pretty beach. No Cubans though that aren't workinng / staying in the hotel. Hence, its basically an all inclusive dive 120km'a from Ciego de Avila.

Moron, is boring as hell. I wanted to go to a disco. I ended up at an El Rapido. (For those of you who have been to Cuba you will get that joke.)

Trinidad, is pretty but hot as hell. Like scorching hot. I really don't know a ton about here though. Casa de la musica seems to be the popular club.

Sancti Sprinctus: I was here for carnival and didn't even get a glance. heck i didn't see a hooker. Conclusion: this place could be good. Counterintuitive I know but I saw quite a few quality girls during the night time at carnival. the same can't be said for Camaguey where I thought the quality was approaching dreadful.

Las Tunas - Everyone I talk to has a different vibe about this place. One guy claims it his golden palace the next guy says its filthy. Personally I haven't been, I have been with a girl from Las Tunas though and she was exquisite. From driving through this place it looked like one big shithole to me.

Matanzas - Haven't been.

Baracoa - Haven't been..not sure there are even flight packages here.

Guantanamo - Haven't been...why the hell would I go here.

Pilon - Crowd of locals go to party in a street where theres a live show every weekend. Nothing really of noteable quality. I can't imagine someone spending more than a night here.

Cienfuegos - the most beautiful city in Cuba. Hands down. Beautiful. Homes to stay in are wonderful. Ocean front for 20 bucks a night. Unfortunately, the disco I went to seemed to be a hooker extravaganza. But in fairness I was there I believe on an offnight I.e. Tuesday or Wednesday. Perhaps I need to show this place some more love and check it out. I did have milfs with there children follow me and a mexican friend a few hundred meters after leaving there children with someone and flashing us there everything trying to make some money. I found this very strange odd I'm guessing business isn't so good there. Especially considering that at no time did we show / have interest in them.

End Result: In terms of quality girls Havana has the highest potential undoubtedly. The downside is it comes with many negatives in terms of an overwhelming amount of prostitution combined with a high cost of living.

Holguin, I do the best in but thats where I spend the most of my time.

I suspect the typical forum member would enjoy most Havana, followed by Cienfuegos. But thats just my opinion and I could be way off.

[lavidaloca]

I could write massive reports on holguin / havana but the reality is it would aid next to 0 people. Those who are going I've always addressed via pm. The amount of people truly visiting these places though on the forum is next to nothing. I think I've only ever actually talked to one forum member who actually went and another who had previously gone to put things in perspective despite posting on here a couple years.

[lavidaloca]

To put things in perspective I am I guess you would say early / mid-20s / white with an advanced degree, large bankroll although I don't necessarily use it beyond whats needed and spend roughly 5 months a year in Cuba. I am there for pleasure and don't work in Cuba. I am happy as I've said previously to meet up with forum members when they are there if we cross paths. I am shocked with all the Canadians that are on here that there aren't more posts about Cuba but I imagine that's because you pay the same for an All Inclusive as you do for flight only to Cuba and hence, nearly everyone 99 stay at AI's which happen to be tourist filled.

The guys who I find do best are not typically the younger guys. I've spent so much time there that it's different. But the guys who have the best lookers are usually mid 30's to mid 40's. That is Cubans and foreigners alike. Dating older is normal. Hence, I my one buddy is 26 and his gf is 16. (Cubans) This is perfectly normal in their culture. (For foreigners its illegal however barring marriage, special circumstances).

One thing I find that is extremely important in Cuba is how you dress. Don't dress in shorts and / or tank tops. I don't care how jacked you are or how beautiful you think your skin is. I see this all the time. Look around at the Cuban guys who have real hotties...they aint wearing shorts. After going to a local gym I found out the vast majority of the guys there are poor and without a chick despite having bodies better than 99% of North Americans. The trainer at one of them who looks like hes in competition shape at all times has a wife who is humongous. Hence, I'm not sure how much being a meat head helps here. I would say very little, as its typically poorer guys who have the meat head look. Being in good shape certainly helps though. But it certainly isn't the advantage it is in North America.

I haven't really seen much suited down persay here. But it is certainly a viable option especially in Havana. I would say in the provinces you may be going over the top if you do this but one could certainly make it work. I actually brought a suit last trip but none of my gf's were willing to let me put it on in the summer. Granted it was scorching hot. They seemed to prefer the coloured dress shirt look with designer jeans / w or w/o a vest.

Lots of gold bling from the Cubans it seems to be a status thing and also a sign that you are a pimp / part of the underground in many cases. I tried this and noticed constant attention from attractive woman. My date a model told me it was 5 years out of style. In fairness I was going for a scarface esque look that night. So I can't really comment on this dress strategy. Obviously I would never recommend one buy large gold chains...just buy gold filled /plated and they will look the same for a month or so if you are going to try this.

There is a lot of economic hardship in Cuba hence you will see quite a few girls dating guys who are far past there expiry date. Those girls are always part of the poor class. Extreme dating differences are not occuring amongst the young, beautiful woman.

One issue ppeople will find with Cuba is everyone you talk to will give you a different take. Part of that is there are so many different strategies, likes that guys have that go there.

For example, Italians seemingly and this is notorious there like very dark skinned woman. Hence, santiago attracts a lot of Italians as well as Old Havana.

Some guys who you talk to will be into meeting girls on the street for a price. Other guys go to high end discos for a price.

Other guys go to restaurants, museums looking for dates.

Other guys, (Myself) go and talk to the entertainers after the shows and transition it into a date.

One guy who likes to meet girls on the street likes to wander old havana, the next siboney, two very different areas.

That is in part why you get one guy who says Cuba is loaded with talent and then another guy who will say this place is filthy.


For me the best results come when I meet them via there work (dancer or model, occasionally waitresses, or through friends).

[jariel]

(03-10-2013 10:41 PM)A CLOCKWORK TRADER Wrote:  

He spoke Spanish. Full on sentences and broken Spanish with the girls. One of them knew English. If I remembered correctly he was talking to the pimp, cop, and hotel lobby guy in Spanish only. He was understood. I'm not sure you saw the documentary. There were two videos. One was 15 minutes long the other was 30 minutes long.

I'm the one here who started the thread with a link to the documentary, so to challenge whether or not I saw it, is completely off base.

I am also a native speaker, and understanding someone who's speaking poorly, but you get the jist of what they're trying to say, is not the same as them speaking the language. As a native speaker yourself, I would imagine you could distinguish between a non-native speaker who has studied the language and can speak it fairly correctly, and one who maybe learned a few phrases, but has clearly not studied the language on any meaningful level.

In that video, Travelbum is the latter, not the former.

[lavidaloca]

As a last post before I go to bed.

Cuba is not a great place for someone who wants to change girls frequently that are not hookers. I.e. a one week tourist is not going to go 7/7 or even 3 for 7 unless hes banging prostitutes in all likelihood. In large part this is due to the registration policies and girls willingness. Also the fact, that normal girls are not going partying on Wednesday nights. They probably only go out Saturdays! Of course guys chasing prostitutes this doesn't apply to.

In the provinces expect to have 1 girlfriend. Maybe 2. More than that and you'll have lots of difficulty.

Havana, is the only place where you can really run a harem persay as in casa's girls don't have to registered. Hence, you can have Susana over in the afternoon and Helen in the night.

Cuba is a good place for people who are long term tourists or very frequent visitors, and for those looking for a girlfriend. A 1 or 2 week tourist will not be running the rounds with highly attractive cuban girls that aren't prostituting. Its kind of like what I read about Colombia all the time...the tourists may get the 7's and maybe some 8's but the 9's and 10's are off limits. This is the reality for short term visitors in Cuba.

Now, I actually have to go to bed. I will try to post again this week if anyone has questions/ commentary.

[pitt]

I have been told that is very hard to find a place to stay in Santiago, is this true lavida? And do you know if you can talk to locals there without being harassed by the police?

In terms of cost of living, i keep on hearing different things. I met this cuban cat in DR who told me i would live like a KING if i was making 1000 dollars per month in Cuba. I have also been told by other foreigners that i will need at least 2500 dollars per month in cuba to live average or good. This cuban friend told me he could hook me up with an apartment for 50 dollars per month. I am confused in terms of what are the living costs in Cuba.

Is Cuba heaven when comes to big butts?

Thanks for all the nice info.

[A CLOCKWORK TRADER]

(03-11-2013 01:09 AM)jariel Wrote:  

I'm the one here who started the thread with a link to the documentary, so to challenge whether or not I saw it, is completely off base.

I am also a native speaker, and understanding someone who's speaking poorly, but you get the jist of what they're trying to say, is not the same as them speaking the language. As a native speaker yourself, I would imagine you could distinguish between a non-native speaker who has studied the language and can speak it fairly correctly, and one who maybe learned a few phrases, but has clearly not studied the language on any meaningful level.

In that video, Travelbum is the latter, not the former.

There is no point in going back and fourth with the whole language issue. The video isn't even up anymore to verify. It's been deleted for well over a year now. It's fair to say he got the job done with the level of Spanish he had.

On a serious note, I think he deleted the videos because they accused him of 'sex tourism' with 'underage prostitutes'. One of those Florida Spanish channels did a whole show defaming him. That's probably why he shut down all the videos.

[lavidaloca]

Pitt, 1000 dollars a month is if you stay in a house that doesn't have a license to rent which can cause you problems. I.e. you can be booted from the middle of the night and/or if you get robbed your SOL. But 1000 dollars a month is not going to allow you to live well in Havana thats for certain. Although if you just want to drink in the street and you rent illegally as your buddy suggested he could do for you it's possible. The MAIN ISSUE with doing this is you may be asked not to return to Cuba forever or for a period of time. But 1000 will not get you anywhere near the very attractive woman.

I wouldn't say Cuba is a big butt paradise. From what I've seen Dominican is far more that type. In fact, from what I've seen the dominican woman are on average better looking and there are less legal pains preventing you from talking to them.

I am certain its easy to find a place to stay in Santiago. At 50 dollars a month being a foreigner it won't be easy to find a place though as that is far less than the taxes someone legally renting pays a month.

The reason you hear a difference in budget is because of different paths tourists take.


An example is, are you going to take a Cuban girl on dates or out...because you certainly will pay for everything.

Then theres, the where you stay place. In the provinces I get a nice place and basically get an independent apartment for 450 a month in the summer, 600 in the winter on shorter stays. In Havana there are places that can be easily found for 450 that are more trashy, but its just as easy to find places for 900 a month or more in some cases 1000's and 1000's a month.

How often do you like to club is another question. Do you like to just go to bars or do you like to go to discos as the latter undoubtedly costs far more in Cuba. Are you into higher end clubs or not? Again the difference in cost can be substantial. A lower end club likely has a cover of 1 dollar. A higher end club a cover of 5-50 dollars.

Do you need a car? These run atleast 60 dollars a day without gas included.

So you see, 1 tourist could just as easily say you need 1000 as you need 6000.

Personally, the lowest budget of anyone I know there is around 1000 a month but he is married and lives with his wife, doesn't go out partying by any means or even eat out for that matter.

I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND GOING with a 1000 a month planning to be gaming. That is a very and I mean very low budget for a foreigner. Those that claim to be doing that are probably married or live an exceptionally boring existence.

There are no options for very cheap housing legally. I've never heard of less than 360 a month for a legal place.

Another issue to me with staying in illegal places is the security levels are far lower. In casa particulars they have minimum requirements hence you will usually find gated doors. Since, I've known my girlfriend twice people have tried to rob her house at night by climbing through the windows. A popular restaurant I go to was also ransacked in December.

I'd be extremely nervous about being robbed but not from the money perspective but of if I woke up during it.

As to chicas not wanting to talk to foreigners in santiago. I don't know whether thats the case. I haven't had a problem with this anywhere but have heard accounts from people who have. Granted, I've never been to Santiago.

Personally I wouldn't recommend a budget of less than 2500 a month to anyone. Barring you want to go live in a small town thats different.

One problem tourists have is "working there." There is no work there for foreigners. You get the job from back home.

If you want to do internet work the only place I've been with wifi in some hotels is Havana and it is incredibly expensive. Think, 10 dollars an hour. With prices scaled down for the number of hours you buy. I believe I saw 200 hours from 500 dollars. But they limited the time frame you could use it to something like 2 months. Beyond that, I'm not sure one could / or would want to work out of a hotel internet service in a lounge.

If it weren't for the connections and friends I've built up over time in Cuba, I'd personally go to DR.

[phoenix101]

There is a young guy on an Italian board who claimed to have made the huge leap to move to Santiago. A couple of details I remember off the top of my head were that he lives on just under €400/month, but that he got a deal on an apartment. Now if a few of those board members who might visit him that might give a tour to spot him a little gift of money that's another story, I don't know. He has posted a lot of message regarding Santiago, regarding good and bad buildings/areas etc and responded to a question of mine regarding certain technical things.

[lavidaloca]

He doesn't live on 400 Euros a month lol. Be real here. Okay maybe if he lives with his girlfriend. That is international wussy type money to live in Cuba. I met one of these guys. A German kid whose mother happened to be Cuban. He told me he lived on 60 dollars a month. I asked him what he did on weekends he said I go out sometimes and buy a 1 dollar bottle of rum and sit on the malecon. Then I asked him if he had been with any cuban girls. He said no, I have a gf back home. I asked him how he travelled around, he takes the bus. Yes, the bus. The bus was about 4 cents vs. a 40 cent cab ride. It took about 1.5 hours to get to nightlife vs. 10 minutes. Look, you can live on extremely low amounts if one has the desire but the lifestyle would be absolutely ridiculous. After drinking I asked him how he got home. He told me he often had to leave really early at like 12 or had to stay out till 6 AM outside waiting for a bus or maquina. This is the level of living someone on 400 euros a month has. Remember this guy had his housing and all his food paid for by virtue of living with his mom.



This is the type of guy who lives on 400 dollars a month. Eating at home every meal, no nightlife, no hot girls.

Don't be fooled. People post goofy stuff like this all the time, retire to Asia for 500 dollars a month type stuff, Then guys actually go to these cities and are like huh?

I'm not saying 400 euros is impossible. I'm saying youd be living a lifestyle similar to someone in poverty in Canada. Is that really desireable?

The type of guy who can do this type of living is
a) married
b) super boring

Even my Cuban friends from abroad who come back are all on atleast 1000 euro a month budgets an they have housing provided for them and own motorcycles.

I'm sure there are people living in Canada and the US on 600 dollars a month. It doesn't make it desireable. At that point I dont know why that guy didn't just stack cash for 2 or 3 years heck just doing that he could've atleast doubled his monthly budget.

Even the poor pension guys I meet down there are all on atleast 1500 canadian a month budgets...AND THESE ARE GUYS IN THE PROVINCES!

I did meet a few students who were studying spanish on 1000 dollar budgets a month. The general gist of what they did is rent an illegal apartment for around 100-150 a month, They didn't go out except on possibly saturdays in which case they would go out but not to an expensive club. But likely to a house party which was with other foreigners. Days would be spent eating street food because its cheap. There are tons of ways to get your costs down. But why would anyone want to move there to get to this level of living. The one thing they all had in common is they weren't hitting any cuban tail.

If you are going to move there you are going to want to live better than you can abroad.

One member on NaughtyNomad forum was there recently and he didn't have a Cuban girl by the soundns of it and was on a budget that seemingly was pushing 200 dollars a day. 15 dollars a day when you have to buy food and rent????

[lavidaloca]

The other reason living on 450 euros a month is highly unlike/ indesirable that as an Italian he has to leave Cuba every 2 months assuming hes not married. He has to fly to another country. So assume cancun is he really getting return tickets for less than 200 euros?

On top of that everytime he leaves Cuba he has to pay a 25 dollar departure tax. Also after 1 month he has to pay 40 dollars to extend his visa a second month. Then when he flies to and from the airport he has to get a taxi as buses don't go there.

[Julio]

Im just back from 10 days spent in La habana.

I met with LaVidaLoca, big thanks to him, he is the man there, knows really well the island and he helped me a lot, without him it would have been harder. Really cool guy IRL. See you soon there!

There is already a lot of info on this forum about Cuba, Im no expert after 10 days but here are my impressions below.


Quick background
I was travelling alone from Spain while I met there with 3 friends from Paris. I arrived 1 day before them and left 3 days after (I should have left 1 day after them but I fell ill and had to change the return flight).
Now my friends wanted to get laid ASAP so they basically went for the P4P option while I tried to go hunting for "normal girls" and that's where LVL helped me a lot.

The logistics
We rented a house in Miramar, a nice 4 bedrooms house with swimming pool. The price was quite high for Cuba (100USD per person and per night) but we were there for only one week so we didn't care.
Now you can rent nice places for 25USD a night and LVL knows places for 100USD a month or even lower.
We were in Miramar but close to el Vedado, I would avoid being far west Miramar or Siboney as the taxi rides will be more expensive.
We usually paid 5-6$ from our house to old Habana. A little bit more by night. You always have to negotiate as the taxis will ask for 10-12$. Don't take official taxis (yellow ones) as they are usually more expensive.

The girls
I was positively impressed by Cuban girls. Now Cuba is famous for its P4P scene and it's obviously present. When the average salary is 20-25 USD /month, it's normal to find that.
You can find everything there: white girls, mulatas, big bootys chick, slim chick, perfect ass, etc...
Some "normal girls" will probably ask you for a little help after you banged them, it happened to me once. You can give them something or tell them to STFU and leave. But there are also nice girls (fewer) who won't ask you a $, you will only have to invite them at a restaurant/bar.
The cuban flag is one of the best I had (equals brazil in my book).

The places
What's important there is to go to the right places on the right night.
We went for example at a disco called "Don Cangrejo" in Miramar on Thursday and it was hookers night. We went back on Saturday and it was really cool with a live band and normal girls. So you'll need someone there to tell you where to go to avoid the P4P scene! Things change fast so I just can mention where we saw normal girls: Sala Atril (Miramar) on saturday. Don Cangrejo on saturday. la Maison on Thursday.
Avoid Salon rojo, la Cecilia: hookers 100%.
It would be meaningless to give a detailed list as it all depends on the night you are going, if there is a special event that night.

Day Game
I tried to talk to some girls during the day but they are too scared of the police. I saw they weren't answering back even when I was asking for direction. Maybe in the old part it's a bit different but I don't think so.
I haven't been to the university campus though, it should be the only place where you can daygame.

Food
I didn't particularly liked it and I fell ill. Some kind of food poisoning or stomach virus. I lost 3 days and I even had to go to the Hospital (i was tested for Cholera!). I had to chang my return flight as I was unable to stand the day I had to leave. I spent the last 2 days in bed or at the hospital... My tip: don't use the ice they give you in clubs.

Spanish
I really don't know what you could expect there if you are not at least intermediate in spanish. I haven't met a girl speaking good english (except the hookers who went to talk to me). Being fluent spanish is definitely a big PLUS.

Beaches
We usually took a cab to the beach at the Tropicoco hotel. It's a 40min ride. Our chauffeur would wait for us and would charge us 35USD the day.
Being 4 it's really cheap. They can also bring you to Varadero but it's a 2h ride.
While at the beach, it's easier to game. I started making out with a girl while I was in the water as she was sending strong signals. As she started talking about money I didn't go further than that. We also met a 9 at the beach (my friend went for her once I opened her and her group). This tropicoco beach was full of normal cuban girls chilling and some tourists too. It was during the week but during the weekend I heard it was packed.

What I learnt
First, in a one week time it's hard to get 9+. I banged 4 girls, all 7-7.5, 8 max.
But it's really easy to open 9+, they are not as bitchy as in Europe. LVL helped me introducing me a nice girl he knew. She took me to the hospital and never asked for a $. I liked girls there and being back in Europe is a bit depressing now when you see again that bitchy attitude plus their smartphone dependance. At least in Cuba there is no 3G, no whatsapp, no Facebook, no twitter. I really enjoyed that.



I wish I could stay there at least 1 month. I'm sure I would be able to crack the Cuba nut better. LVL knows how to approach the salsa dancers in clubs, amazing body, amazing face... The way they dance just made me sick. The only drawback is time. You need to go out with them a few times, they won't give it to you that easily.
Having a cuban cellphone is also a must. I met a nice 18yo girl, 1m83 (6'), 8.5 easily, she gave me her number but she never picked up when I called with my spanish cellphone due to the roaming price.

There are few places in the world like Cuba. I think I will go back there and try to hit the 2nd tier cities (like Holguin). It should even be easier.

[pitt]

Julio do you think local guys can approach girls without problems? Are girls more likely to talk to a local guy than to a foreigner? If you could pass as a local, would it be easier for you to make street approaches?

I don't want to be in a city where i can't approach.

[Sonsowey]

Julio can you provide a quick breakdown of how you met the girls you slept with?

Was it at the beach, a performer at a show, a friend of LVLs, etc?

Looking forward to this info, as I hope to go this summer and meet up with LVL too, who has been incredibly helpful via PM.

[Julio]

Yes the problem is when the police spot a girl talking to a foreigner, they think she is a hooker making some business so they may ask for her ID and even taking her back to the police dept. Ultimately they may send her back to the city she is from...

But if you look cuban the police won't bother you I guess, as cubans can talk to girls without problems.

There is no way I can look cuban so girls knew right away I was a foreigner.

Also, if you go to the university campus, you shouldn't be bothered by the police.

[Julio]

(06-09-2013 10:44 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

Julio can you provide a quick breakdown of how you met the girls you slept with?

Was it at the beach, a performer at a show, a friend of LVLs, etc?

Looking forward to this info, as I hope to go this summer and meet up with LVL too, who has been incredibly helpful via PM.

The first one was quite random.
The afternoon I did the checking at the house we were renting, I saw a girl in the street staring at me while I was waiting outside. I thought she was a hooker so I didn't talk to her. Then we went out with LVL and we went back to see if my friends had arrived around 3 am, the same girl was here talking with our housekeeper. Turns out she was a family member of the cubans renting the house. She was obviously interested in me and I had the SNL. I had to kick her out the following day though as she wanted to spend the whole week with me and started bringing her stuff in my room.

2nd notch was kinda lucky. We were going out of our house and saw 2 girls walking by. We called them and invited them to some drinks. They were 2 sisters. My friend went for 1 and I went for the other. SNL too and I spent another night with her as I was ill.

3rd notch is a girl I met in a club but she asked for $ so I wouldn't count this one.

Last one was a friend of LVL. The nicest girl of the week.

[Sonsowey]

(06-09-2013 11:02 AM)julio26 Wrote:  

2nd notch was kinda lucky. We were going out of our house and saw 2 girls walking by. We called them and invited them to some drinks. They were 2 sisters. My friend went for 1 and I went for the other. SNL too and I spent another night with her as I was ill.

Chevere. Como las llamaste, las chiflaste o algo asi, o algo sencillo como "Oye nenas, que mas?"

Where was your house, if you don't mind? I would love an area where "normal" girls are walking around and available like you describe.

Thanks a ton

[Julio]

(06-09-2013 11:17 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

(06-09-2013 11:02 AM)julio26 Wrote:  

2nd notch was kinda lucky. We were going out of our house and saw 2 girls walking by. We called them and invited them to some drinks. They were 2 sisters. My friend went for 1 and I went for the other. SNL too and I spent another night with her as I was ill.

Chevere. Como las llamaste, las chiflaste o algo asi, o algo sencillo como "Oye nenas, que mas?"

Where was your house, if you don't mind? I would love an area where "normal" girls are walking around and available like you describe.

Thanks a ton

Sure, I was staying in Miramar, calle 6 close to 3rd Avenue.

We were going out of the house and I had a bottle of rhum in my hand, I just told them "oye chicas, os apetece una copa?" and they went inside.

If I had to go back again I would choose a place close to the university in El Vedado, around Avenida 23. Where I was living I didn't see that much cute girls walking by.

[Sonsowey]

(06-09-2013 11:26 AM)julio26 Wrote:  

(06-09-2013 11:17 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

(06-09-2013 11:02 AM)julio26 Wrote:  

2nd notch was kinda lucky. We were going out of our house and saw 2 girls walking by. We called them and invited them to some drinks. They were 2 sisters. My friend went for 1 and I went for the other. SNL too and I spent another night with her as I was ill.

Chevere. Como las llamaste, las chiflaste o algo asi, o algo sencillo como "Oye nenas, que mas?"

Where was your house, if you don't mind? I would love an area where "normal" girls are walking around and available like you describe.

Thanks a ton

Sure, I was staying in Miramar, calle 6 close to 3rd Avenue.

We were going out of the house and I had a bottle of rhum in my hand, I just told them "oye chicas, os apetece una copa?" and they went inside.

If I had to go back again I would choose a place close to the university in El Vedado, around Avenida 23. Where I was living I didn't see that much cute girls walking by.

Si LVL me recomendó que yo me queda alli donde dijiste, pero igual, no te iba mal para nada...

I'm gonna use "os" there and see how they like it. Latin Americans always crack up from shit like "Como estaís"?

[Julio]

(06-09-2013 11:30 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

Si LVL me recomendó que yo me queda alli donde dijiste, pero igual, no te iba mal para nada...

I'm gonna use "os" there and see how they like it. Latin Americans always crack up from shit like "Como estaís"?

Claro porque esta cerca de la Uni y alli vi chicas "interesantes" jajaja Y estas cerca del Malecon tambien y el paseo me encantó.

I use "vosotros/as" but they only use "usted /ustedes" like in Latam. All the girls there asked me about my spanish and why I was speaking it as I don't look like spanish at all.

[pitt]

Julio have you ever been to DR? Can you compare DR and Cuba?

[Ath1est]

It's a long way off but I plan on ringing in NYE in Havana...for those who don't know, the Cuban Revolution ended on January 1 (1959) so I'm thinking things will get #prettywild


Ath1est

[Julio]

(06-09-2013 02:44 PM)pitt Wrote:  

Julio have you ever been to DR? Can you compare DR and Cuba?

Unfortunately no Pitt, I've never been to DR.

[Pokerbaby]

I just came back from a week long trip to Cienfuegos. I also checked out Trinadad and Santa Clara.

Basically, there seemed to be two types of women in the clubs: Actually, it would be more accurate to say, there are two types of prostitutes in the clubs.

The first type are flat out up front about what they want and what they are going to do and how much they will cost. A strict P4P which I am not into and I'm sure few guys on this site would be into.

The second type of prostitute is a little more discreet. She talks to you for a while, strikes up a friendship, you take her home, fuck her but afterwards she asks you for money. They always seem to want money. But this is a little more hush, hush, casual and easygoing.

The second type of prostitution doesn't seem to be a big deal to me. There are guys that will say "I'm not paying for it, no matter what", but In Cuba there is a different context - the girls are not "whores" but simply born in the wrong place at the wrong time and don't really have much of a choice. There has to be some breaking point where any guy would be willing to pay for it. Suppose you went to a club and picked up a girl who looked like Kate Upton and she said she'd bang you but needed 10 bucks for cab fare to go home. There's a breaking point. In Cuba, there are girls much hotter than than the average PRO willing to fuck for a lot less money than what it would cost in the States.

Trinidad had way more tourists and there were no locals in the club. Went to the underground cave club on a Thursday night.

[rudebwoy]

Cuba and DR are pretty similar, both are poor countries with one being communist and the other being democratic.

I find the women look similar and anything can be had for the right price, both countries I have only been once because that "scene" is not for me.

Not sure why you don't consider these girls to be whores, they are selling their pussy. Don't try to justify it, I heard far too many Toronto chumps try to do that already.