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South Korea Data Sheet
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I returned from living in Korea for 2 years and thought it'd be good to share some of my experiences /opinions.

I am 24 years old about 5'9" Korean ethnicity but fully "Westernized" growing up almost entirely out of the Seattle area. I'd consider myself above average but not stunning in terms of physical attractiveness. I definitely stood out though in terms of muscular physique (rugby player). If a girl didn’t notice me by my face, they likely would after I took off my coat simply because of how scrawny most Korean guys are in comparison.

For those who don't already know, Korea isn't exactly a "pussy paradise". I would not recommend someone to visit for that primary reason (even though imho, Korean girls are the most attractive Asian women), especially if you aren't loaded like G or have Advanced World Game.

Due to relatively cold winters that discourage night activities and humid summers, the best times to visit would be spring or autumn timeframe. Winter game isn’t too bad though if you’re specifically targeting Hongdae, as mentioned by others in the past. Korean students have a lot of stress and will not be deterred by chilly weather from letting off some steam in the bars/clubs.
Language barrier isn’t a significant concern. They’re raised learning English in school pretty young nowadays. I spent several months teaching privileged 9-10 year olds English. I’d suggest approaching in Korean with a basic greeting and if you physically appeal to her, she will make an effort to communicate with you in English.

Korea is amongst the safest places in the world. To be fair, I blended in and probably felt extra safe, but nonetheless I never had fears about being attacked from behind or going down dark alleys. Don't be overly careless, but a visitor should expect to be safe and unharmed throughout their trip. Korean people are also very friendly in general. If you're respectful, it's very likely they will be too.

Transportation:
Public transportation here is amongst the very best in the world. The subways are highly efficient and inexpensive, open about 18 hours a day. Taxis are also readily available (Prices get jacked up late at night and sometimes they won’t even take you if you’re not going far. My Korean friends got pissed about this a few times because they aren’t supposed to discriminate based on estimated cab fare). Buses are about as efficient as subway but much more complex to understand the scheduling and routes; I took the route going into the opposite direction of where I wanted to go a couple times. Avoid buses unless you’re with someone that is fluent in Korean or highly familiarized.

Day game:
There are malls in every major city, and these will undoubtedly be loaded with bangable girls at most times. Ratios will be good and finding a target won’t be much challenge. Cold approaching in Korea, however, is strongly discouraged most of the time. People in public almost never acknowledge the presence of others even in crowded areas. If you do try to approach during the day, I’d suggest following Day Bang tactics but with a noticeable increase in showing the cat that you mean no harm. Personally, I think it’s best if logistically feasible, to make a solid 5-7 min impression and just leave with the number. Let her calm down from the approach, judge you as safe, and then text her the next day.

Night game:
I definitely would not consider myself an expert at gaming at night, but I’ll share what I experienced. Bars are heavily seated environments with girls out alone very rare. Sets of two aren’t difficult to find though, and just from body language alone, one can usually tell they’re open to being approached. Of course, chances are slim of SNL due to the difficulty in isolating them from each other. Again, getting a number isn’t a terrible result as your competition is generally light and while their egos are high, they won’t likely have many actively pursuing them.
One of my discoveries near the end of my trip was these special restaurant/bars where people literally go for the primary purpose of hooking up. A Korean national took me and I think they purposely don’t share this with foreigners; there were zero foreigners in the two that I went to. I remember waiting in line around midnight and groups of people would walk out and my friend would confirm my suspicion that they’re likely going to a “love motel” or another bar to escalate. I was shocked due to how visibly obvious what was happening in these types of bars. This was one of the very few places I saw where Korean men would approach tables with women and charm/invite them to their table.

Online game:
I used online game and while reply rates weren’t sky high, most I got replies from I got dates from. I never experienced last second flakes. About half my first dates resulted in bangs, and they were always open to developing a relationship although they didn’t always expect it to happen. When I’d text them in a couple days, usually they thought it was just a ONS and seemed to accept that.
All of my online dates were expats. Each date was at least a 7.5 out of 10. Surprisingly, every time I met someone in person, she always was more attractive than the pictures portrayed them as. I used OKCupid. The talent level isn’t great, but there are plenty of 7-8.5 on that site, particularly in the Seoul area.

The Cities:
Seoul – This city gets a lot of interest from foreigners / travelers, and rightfully so. There’s a lot to do here and several “neighborhoods” that are conducive to gaming and living a upper level lifestyle. Korea isn’t like the US where there’s several major cities and based on your career field, you have some choices. Koreans almost unanimously grow up with hopes / plans to live in Seoul. The social / business elite in other cities may not even make the top 20% in Seoul. This makes the egos there high and significantly lower in other cities. For example, the three top schools “SKY” (Seoul U, Korea U, and Yonsei U) are all in Seoul.

Busan – This is the go to city for Beach activities. Only 3 hours away from Seoul by convenient train (although you should reserve your seat at least a few days in advance or you’ll stand some or most of the way), some people go to and from weekly to see family, etc. I really liked the architecture and city layout for some reason of Busan in ways that I can’t particularly explain. The hookup scene seemed much weaker here, but to be fair I was in a LTR with a older girl here so I can’t say with certainty.

Jeju – I did a 4 day weekend here. This is the foremost Island destination for Koreans that don’t leave the country. It’s only about an hour flight from Seoul. The beach was mediocre at best, but I did enjoy the highest mountain in South Korea here. Not too difficult, I literally ran up most of the mountain due to a self-challenge. There are several 4-5 star hotels here to comfortably stay at while visiting. Definitely worth checking out if you’re in Korea for at least a few weeks.

A couple lay reports:
Korean flag – I got my first Korean girl actually in Busan while visiting even though I wasn’t living there. She was the hostel owner at the place I was staying at and we just chatted alone later in the evening on my first day in the city. She was a 7, age 27, large natural tits for a Korean girl with a cute face. After we had a relatively intense conversation for an hour or so, I asked her if she wanted to take a walk with me, go out and enjoy the fresh air. She resisted slightly at first but agreed. This was the city she grew up in and she guided us straight to the main bar area nearby. We went into a crowded bar with loud music and people playing darts. We got a drink and left soon afterward. The beach was right there so we got a couple of beers from a convenience store and walked for a while. After walking a couple miles back and forth, I asked her if she wanted to go somewhere private with me. I really was not looking for the lay, but it seemed like the natural next step after we had been holding hands for a while. She was clearly into me and her face was flushed with embarrassment. She told me she didn’t want me to think she was easy and of course I told her I wasn’t there to judge her, which was true. After a while, she started guiding us towards a somewhat shady area that turned out to be “love motels”. We split the cost (around 40 USD). I was surprised how quickly it was happening and didn’t believe it was going to until we started walking up the stairs. Later, she told me she hadn’t been with anyone in over a year and also that her birthday had been the week before and she spent it alone. We transitioned the next day naturally into her showing me the sites and we spent the rest of my time down there together. I ended up in a LTR with her for several months.

Girl from Chicago – I messaged this girl, mid 20s, about 5’1” 7.5 on OKC with a simple message and in it guessed she was from Illinois or Michigan. She made a huge deal out of this, how I could possibly know and asked me to guess which city. I guessed right and somehow it just flowed into a few messages back and forth until an agreement to meet. She lived 45 minutes away so I took a bus to her location. We met a 5 minute walk away from her apartment at a Western-influenced bar. We both had a few beers and she talked almost without pause, about 90% of the “conversation”. I basically just sat there trying to be interested and keep giving her material to talk about. I’m not a very talkative person anyway so it worked for me. After a couple hours of her talking, I suggested we leave, planning to go to another venue but she started walking back to her place. She then said something to the effect of “I don't know where you're going, but I'm going home.” It took minimal effort to convince her to let me go home with her; there had been zero physical contact up to that point. We watched some American movie and I went for the kiss after about 30 minutes inside her place. It took HOURS to get the bang, she clearly did not want me to think she was an easy lay. She said "I will not have sex with you tonight" about a dozen times, but I could tell by how she said it that she did not want me to stop trying. Eventually, I got tired and said "Let's just go to your bed and sleep", which I meant. Of course, after about 5 minutes of laying there I figured why not try one last time. She asked me if I had a condom, and from then on she didn't resist at all. I texted her a few days later and she agreed to a follow-up but I flaked cause I was with a couple other girls at the time.

This is basically the routine I followed. I usually went to her area or meet in the middle, and try to venue change once and transition to her place. One Chinese Canadian girl that took me back to her place I got down to panties only but I rushed her cause I had an early day the next day and I think she felt dirty (we hadn't drank any alchohol) and texted me later that she didn't want to see me again. I'm certain I would have got this bang if I had taken my time [Image: dodgy.gif].

This is getting kinda long, so I'll stop. Any specific questions, feel free to post them. I miss Korea a lot more than I expected now having returned to the States. I really don’t see how a person couldn’t enjoy a few week visit to the country even if only getting one or two new notches, especially if one hasn’t been to Asia before.
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Great post my friend. I am heading out to Incheon at the end of the month. I am assuming I will do at least 2 years.
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Quote: (02-09-2013 07:11 AM)sylo Wrote:  

Great post my friend. I am heading out to Incheon at the end of the month. I am assuming I will do at least 2 years.

Cool dude. Yeah, I think you're going to have a blast over there. PM me anytime if you have questions specific to your situation.

Make sure you get the app "Kakao" if you haven't already. Most everyone uses that to text / group chat instead of simply texting through their phone number.
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After Skyping with a close friend back in Korea, it made me reflect on how different their lives are to those of us on this Forum. I am going to write a short biography of two of my best friends in Korea. This information isn't as much something that once learned can be used to "overcome the competition" but rather cultural knowledge specifically more valuable to those that will live in Korea.

Friend 1:

Born and raised in a 3rd tier city in Korea, he grew up with two older sisters (who were both surprisingly very attractive) and his two parents. Highly intelligent, he was accepted into arguably the 2nd best University in Korea (6% admittance rate). In Korea, when one applies to a school, one also applies for the major as well. To give himself the best chance possible, he chose Biotechnology. He does not have much interest in this field, and halfway through his sophomore year, he added Fashion Design to be his second major. He is not gay.

When I met him he was nearly finished with his 2 years of mandatory military service. He worked as a KATUSA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KATUSA . Most Korean men satisfy their service requirement at 20-25 years old, and so the ratios of women in that age range are quite good. Not only is he a virgin at the age of 23, but he has yet to have a girlfriend or kiss a girl. Because I cared for him, I tried to help him stop overvaluing girls, but he thought they were all innocent little flowers as they are portrayed by the k-pop celebrities all Koreans idolize. He thought sex was meaningless without love, and could not accept it as simply physical pleasure. This was a young man that women would describe as "adorable" but not hot. Right before I left he had been flirting with this one girl, but she turned out to just be playing him and he took it pretty hard. Someone I'd never heard swear, he called her a bitch. He volunteers now in a traveling club that spent a couple months in Cambodia recently. He tries to attract the women in this club and use the club as DHV for other women, but it has been unsuccessful.

Friend 2

Raised in Seoul, he was born into a relatively poor situation with little hope of rising in class status. He had one younger brother that he described as intellectually lacking. Although worthless to his aspirations of being a pharmacist, he went to foreign language high school, studying French. He went to a mid-tier University and finished his education to become a pharmacist.

He went to Europe for two months after finishing college and shared his experience. He went to Paris and then spent most of his time across Germany drinking the various beers (he admittedly was an alcoholic. When I questioned the value of drinking so heavily for his life, he stated he hated philosophy). He had a girlfriend before he went on his trip so did not attempt to have physical relations with anyone in Europe (his girlfriend went to Europe alone the year before, and I doubt she had been as loyal). This is the only girlfriend he has ever had. They dated for years and broke up a while back; neither of them would be described as attractive. He lives a similar life to many of my friends in Korea: moderately-high income, work long hours, tries to find "the one" and get married before 30.
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I have a close relative living in Korea and have been to visit once for a week. The average full time corporation worker gets 3 or 4 days vacation per year. These dudes are worked to the bone. I think that's a big factor on why everyone gets absolutely obliterated when they go out. I talked with some of the guys having a hard time finding women, seemed like they were stuck in the passed, patriarchal mindset, and the women were moving forward. Kind of like over here in the west, but a bit different. Seemed like the men were the ones that wanted to settle down and get married fats, and the women were the ones saying they didnt want to get tied down.

On a side note, I highly recommend the korean style spas. Its a small entrance fee for the entire day, literally 24 hours, and you don't have to leave cause they have everything in there. Multiple saunas, whirlpools, cold room, oxygen room etc.. restaurants, nap room, internet, movies. Plus, your likely to have the biggest dick in the place!!

If you're in Incheon, check out Spa Rex in Bupyeong
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Great write up, Hallasan. I wrote a Data sheet on Seoul a while back and I just got back from 10 days there this past Sunday. I worked in Seoul in 03-04, and it was definitely "pussy paradise" for Korean Americans (and to a lesser extent, Americans) although as you said, it's not nearly like that anymore.

I got a good kick out of reading some of your tactics, as I was on the same wavelength the past two weeks. However, I ended up sort of stumbling on a new type of game: room bang girls. Although they're all hot as fuck, most of them are only used to dealing with middle aged men during their hostessing duties. Granted the barrier to entry is steep (I think my friend paid almost 2 million won from his company expense account) but after that first night, it was almost too easy.
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Quote: (02-21-2013 03:10 AM)booshala Wrote:  

Great write up, Hallasan. I wrote a Data sheet on Seoul a while back and I just got back from 10 days there this past Sunday. I worked in Seoul in 03-04, and it was definitely "pussy paradise" for Korean Americans (and to a lesser extent, Americans) although as you said, it's not nearly like that anymore.

I got a good kick out of reading some of your tactics, as I was on the same wavelength the past two weeks. However, I ended up sort of stumbling on a new type of game: room bang girls. Although they're all hot as fuck, most of them are only used to dealing with middle aged men during their hostessing duties. Granted the barrier to entry is steep (I think my friend paid almost 2 million won from his company expense account) but after that first night, it was almost too easy.

Yeah, the heavy foreign presence in Seoul has decreased the appeal for Americans. I remember when I was there 10 years ago, people would straight stare at me when they found out I grew up in America and spoke English without the Asian accent. I rarely got that same sort of stare the last time I was there.

Do you live in America now? You were visiting friends/family for the 10 days or was it a business trip?

I'm unfamiliar with that type of game. It's not really my style but props anyway for the discovery. I definitely think there are a few levels of "hidden" gaming that I never even heard of because I'm not a resident of SK.
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Quote: (02-21-2013 08:26 AM)Hallasan Wrote:  

Quote: (02-21-2013 03:10 AM)booshala Wrote:  

Great write up, Hallasan. I wrote a Data sheet on Seoul a while back and I just got back from 10 days there this past Sunday. I worked in Seoul in 03-04, and it was definitely "pussy paradise" for Korean Americans (and to a lesser extent, Americans) although as you said, it's not nearly like that anymore.

I got a good kick out of reading some of your tactics, as I was on the same wavelength the past two weeks. However, I ended up sort of stumbling on a new type of game: room bang girls. Although they're all hot as fuck, most of them are only used to dealing with middle aged men during their hostessing duties. Granted the barrier to entry is steep (I think my friend paid almost 2 million won from his company expense account) but after that first night, it was almost too easy.

Yeah, the heavy foreign presence in Seoul has decreased the appeal for Americans. I remember when I was there 10 years ago, people would straight stare at me when they found out I grew up in America and spoke English without the Asian accent. I rarely got that same sort of stare the last time I was there.

Do you live in America now? You were visiting friends/family for the 10 days or was it a business trip?

I'm unfamiliar with that type of game. It's not really my style but props anyway for the discovery. I definitely think there are a few levels of "hidden" gaming that I never even heard of because I'm not a resident of SK.

Yeah I'm based out of LA but I head to the motherland once or twice a year, mostly to see friends and to check the "water quality" of females there.

There's this new type of club in hongdae and gangnam where they only play 90's Kpop, kinda similar to 80's nights here in the states. Lots of older, slutty girls, and I had the time of my life.

What was the vibe at the pickup bars/clubs that your native friends let you in on? I'd be interested in hitting that up when I'm back in a few months.
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Quote: (02-22-2013 01:21 AM)booshala Wrote:  

Quote: (02-21-2013 08:26 AM)Hallasan Wrote:  

Quote: (02-21-2013 03:10 AM)booshala Wrote:  

Great write up, Hallasan. I wrote a Data sheet on Seoul a while back and I just got back from 10 days there this past Sunday. I worked in Seoul in 03-04, and it was definitely "pussy paradise" for Korean Americans (and to a lesser extent, Americans) although as you said, it's not nearly like that anymore.

I got a good kick out of reading some of your tactics, as I was on the same wavelength the past two weeks. However, I ended up sort of stumbling on a new type of game: room bang girls. Although they're all hot as fuck, most of them are only used to dealing with middle aged men during their hostessing duties. Granted the barrier to entry is steep (I think my friend paid almost 2 million won from his company expense account) but after that first night, it was almost too easy.

Yeah, the heavy foreign presence in Seoul has decreased the appeal for Americans. I remember when I was there 10 years ago, people would straight stare at me when they found out I grew up in America and spoke English without the Asian accent. I rarely got that same sort of stare the last time I was there.

Do you live in America now? You were visiting friends/family for the 10 days or was it a business trip?

I'm unfamiliar with that type of game. It's not really my style but props anyway for the discovery. I definitely think there are a few levels of "hidden" gaming that I never even heard of because I'm not a resident of SK.

Yeah I'm based out of LA but I head to the motherland once or twice a year, mostly to see friends and to check the "water quality" of females there.

There's this new type of club in hongdae and gangnam where they only play 90's Kpop, kinda similar to 80's nights here in the states. Lots of older, slutty girls, and I had the time of my life.

What was the vibe at the pickup bars/clubs that your native friends let you in on? I'd be interested in hitting that up when I'm back in a few months.

That sounds very interesting. I've never heard of / noticed any of those. I can definitely see how those properties would make it an excellent place to go game.

The two that I went to were on the eastern part of town, near Jamsil. They were easy to spot because there was a huge line outside the building (made me wonder why more business-people didn't try to start up some competing establishments). I suppose if you knew the general area to look, you'd find them without too much difficulty.

Most everyone was in tables of men or women. The ones that I saw that were mixed, I'm sure did not arrive as such. It was a restaurant type environment basically where people ate decent quality "Korean-style bar foods" and drank. This was one of the very few places I saw where a Korean guy or guy + wingmen would approach a table of girls and attempt to charm them and ask them to come sit at their table. If the men were successful, the girls would leave their table and join the men. You could feel the hook-up desires from everyone in that place.
NOTE: If I remember correctly, if the girls did join the men, they expected the men to pay for the food and drinks the girls had been having beforehand. Also, I wouldn't say the success rate was high in getting girls to move; there were still girls waiting to get approached by men later into the night / early morning.
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Great post, Hallasan. I have met a few Korean girls while traveling in SEA and I really like them. Now I am considering spending a couple of month or even more in South Korea. It will probably be in winter because I am into mountain skiing too. I am guessing Korea is not a cheap place. What kind of budget do I need (excluding skiing)? BTW, is being a white dude pro or con in Korea?
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Quote: (07-14-2013 01:21 AM)Northern Wrote:  

Great post, Hallasan. I have met a few Korean girls while traveling in SEA and I really like them. Now I am considering spending a couple of month or even more in South Korea. It will probably be in winter because I am into mountain skiing too. I am guessing Korea is not a cheap place. What kind of budget do I need (excluding skiing)? BTW, is being a white dude pro or con in Korea?

Thanks man.

It gets pretty cold during winter there and some people avoid going out, not the best time to go for gaming.

I assume you'll go to Seoul; it's not as expensive as other global top-tier cities. There are high-end areas though that you'll want to hit up and those are as luxurious as it gets anywhere.

I wouldn't say being white is a disadvantage but there will be girls, particularly upper class girls, that will not consider outsiders in a short period of time due to societal reasons.

Some girls may give you an extra minute to converse out of curiosity but otherwise it's up to you to game them. And a lot of them do not speak English or will be way too shy to attempt it and risk embarrassment. At the very least you should approach in Korean if you attempt approaching during the day.
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Nice. I spent 5 weeks in Seoul back in 2010. Before I landed in Korea I didn't even like Asian girls, but after walking around Gangnam for 5 minutes that quickly changed... If you want to see hot Asian girls you should walk around Gangnam for a few hours. I never actually went out to the clubs in Gangnam, but it's a great day game spot (in terms of the quantity of attractive girls walking around by themselves). My favorite area at night was Hongdae. I got my first Korean lay in Hongdae. It was pretty effortless though.. she approached me, and I was totally her type (I'm white, and at that time I had a very muscular physique). Seoul isn't exactly an easy city to get laid though.. I literally counted this.. I approached 120 girls before I finally got laid. (But keep in mind that my game was absolute shit back then and I didn't have much self-confidence).

Overall I'd say that it's worth going to Korea, but I doubt I'll ever go back. As a white guy, I experienced a lot of xenophobia (I hear it's worse for black people), and English is horrible. The food was amazing though.
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Quote: (07-14-2013 08:19 PM)travolta Wrote:  

Nice. I spent 5 weeks in Seoul back in 2010. Before I landed in Korea I didn't even like Asian girls, but after walking around Gangnam for 5 minutes that quickly changed... If you want to see hot Asian girls you should walk around Gangnam for a few hours. I never actually went out to the clubs in Gangnam, but it's a great day game spot (in terms of the quantity of attractive girls walking around by themselves). My favorite area at night was Hongdae. I got my first Korean lay in Hongdae. It was pretty effortless though.. she approached me, and I was totally her type (I'm white, and at that time I had a very muscular physique). Seoul isn't exactly an easy city to get laid though.. I literally counted this.. I approached 120 girls before I finally got laid. (But keep in mind that my game was absolute shit back then and I didn't have much self-confidence).

Overall I'd say that it's worth going to Korea, but I doubt I'll ever go back. As a white guy, I experienced a lot of xenophobia (I hear it's worse for black people), and English is horrible. The food was amazing though.

Holy fuck! 120 approaches in that many weeks?! Man, you must have grown a shit ton after that in terms of game ability. How did these girls react to you? Were they harsh rejections or more polite but not interested?

Yeah, Korea is not the best place to go for increasing your notch count.
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haha yeah it was intense. I wasn't working or anything, so I'd just hit it HARD every day.. I'd walk around for 4-6 hours a day just approaching girls. (I could never do this now.. I'd rather spend most of that time working). It wasn't easy.. first you have to find the girls who speak English, then you have to find the girls who are actually interested in you. I don't think I got many harsh reactions. Most of the time the girls were just terrified. Korea is a frustrating place to learn this stuff.
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Quote: (07-15-2013 12:18 AM)travolta Wrote:  

haha yeah it was intense. I wasn't working or anything, so I'd just hit it HARD every day.. I'd walk around for 4-6 hours a day just approaching girls. (I could never do this now.. I'd rather spend most of that time working). It wasn't easy.. first you have to find the girls who speak English, then you have to find the girls who are actually interested in you. I don't think I got many harsh reactions. Most of the time the girls were just terrified. Korea is a frustrating place to learn this stuff.

That's impressive, you've got quite a bit of determination and perseverance.

Yeah, I very rarely daygamed in Korea. Girls there are not getting hit up by strangers during the day, guys or girls, so it freaks a lot of them out. Sometimes I'd chat up some gringas and surprise them when I approach in English.
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Hallasan- The highest Mountain in South Korea and the best report on here about the country next to the Gorbachev posts. Cheers man! I've been here three years now- anyone considering doing their military tour, teaching English or just traveling here should take your write ups to heart. I can Imagine it's not easy being a Gyopo sometimes but it's enviable to be able to see the foreign and Korean perspective all at once...

Would like to add my words and affirmations to yours in the hopes that they're of help to readers. Do correct me if I'm wrong.

Climate: Agreed on the weather- summer is like a sauna. 30 celsius and rain 4 days a week is the norm. Winter is like the interior of Northeast America or Canada. Not nearly as much snow though. The best weather is in October imho.

Location/transportation: Seoul isn't everything, but in Korea, status IS everything, and saying you live there or went to uni there is enviable for all Koreans who haven’t had the privilege. The city is easily accessible within most of Gyeonggi-do (the national capital area: Sudogwon) But yeah, it can be hard navigating the local buses- much more so if you cant read the alphabet.

It's worth mentioning that I've brought back a few birds home by taxi when I used to live in the suburbs. Eastern Incheon is doable, and the short list of satellite cities to consider staying in if you can't land a spot in Seoul are: Bucheon, Goyang, Seongnam, Gwangmyeong, Gwacheon, and Anyang. These burbs immediately border Seoul and have all the subway lines running through them. (PM me if you want travel logistics on a specific place- studied the maps here like a hawk before arriving.)

@LowerCaseG: Plus one on the spas/saunas/jim-jil-bangs here. Many a folk have used them as a cheap place to wash up and spend a night alone when far from home and hotels are too expensive or without vacancy.

**Day game: Thanks. I will personally adopt your day game approach. It's so true. To this day I've not seen one cold approach from a Korean man to a Korean woman in the day. Cold approaching of any sort is always alcohol assisted. Compound the local customs with the fact that if you're a foreigner, it makes things even more frightening for them. Long story short, cold approaching ain't easy here, but of course, every drawback can be turned into an advantage.

Online? Korean Cupid is pretty much it for me. OKCupid is a go only if you're in the Seoul area- I wouldn't bother otherwise.

Night game: I've been in Korean style nightclubs and they're certainly an exercise in futility- If they let you in, you have to spend quite a bit to get the waiters there to drag (yes, drag) the girls to your table. Even most Korean guys seem to get mercilessly blown out there if they're not ponying up...

That, and the hostess bars (an ex of mine worked in one) support the idea that the average Korean man leans hard on beta beliefs. Go to western style venues, and if you can look for the birds who are receptive to attention, then yeah, game tailored to this country can seal the deal for you.

Kakao Talk: You might as well be a ghost to 99 percent of locals if you aren't using this app while over here.

-formerly glarkcable.
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