[ThailandRockstar]

What more is there to say? Not many people are getting one night stands in regular Thai clubs with middle class Thai girls. It just doesn't happen that often. You have to be super stealthy about it to make it happen or get the number and arrange for a date later.

It's not impossible but it's not easy either.

[RichieP]

(05-24-2013 10:42 AM)ThailandRockstar Wrote:  

Depends on the type of girls you are banging, the middle to upper class girls are not that easy. The lower class girls (i.e. hookers, bar girls, village girls or those with low entry jobs like 7/11 etc) are because they have no better prospects so a white guy who can travel for months on end and has his shit together is quite a catch.

Even the lower middle class girls aren't too difficult in places like Thailand. Women are on the whole more educated than guys in Thailand, go to uni etc and get OK paying jobs then find they can't get a man on the same level and since they don't want to date down and end up with a tuk tuk driver or something they opt to date foreigners instead as we are perceived to have money and education.

Just some of the many reasons why a foreigner can clean up in SE Asia.

Interesting, but why on earth would women be more educated than men?

If Thai parents can only support one or some of their children through uni, wouldn't they choose the son(s)?

You might be right though, the majority of university students in the malls seemed to be girls. Maybe I just stopped taking any notice of the guys though lol.

[ThailandRockstar]

I don't know what the reason is but it's fact. There are more women at university these days than men in Thailand and more and more women are landing top jobs. The Prime Minister is female for example. A lot of girls get educated and better themselves and they can't find a man who are on the same level.

[Kieran]

Yeah it's not easy to get one night stands with good looking middle class girls as there isn't as much of a culture of ONS as we have. Also they tend to prefer Thai guys (and contrary to what a lot of people say, a lot of Thai guys have great direct game and will approach groups of girls at tables and start holding court with them).

That said when I lived in Bangkok, I had one night stands with middle and upper middle class girls at a rate of about 1-2 per week from clubs and bars with very few foreigners. These were generally decent looking by Thai standards, light skinned girls from good universities (I slept with about 25 girls from Thammasat Uni alone). This isn't all that great though as I went out nearly every night that I lived there, and I have an advantage in that I speak Thai at an upper intermediate level (can game from open to close in 100% Thai, and hold my own in a group conversation which can be a massive advantage as you will likely need to join her table at some stage).

The way I game them is very different to how I would game a European girl. It's difficult to describe my approach; I'm much more subtle and behave like a complete gentleman with regards to what I say and my manners, but the eye contact and body language tells a different tale. It's like you both know exactly what is going on by the sub communication, but just kind of go through the motions of her acting like an innocent girl, and you acting as if you are not a playboy (they will always ask if you have a girlfriend, or if you are a playboy, and I usually just answer that I have a ridiculous number of girlfriends like 1 million, or that I'm not a playboy, I just haven't found a relationship yet).

I make an effort to be fun and make a good impression to anyone she is with, and then if logistics are good, you just kind of pair off at the end of the night. I rarely ran into cockblocking, especially not from guys as most know what is going on and are often trying to get with someone in the group themselves, or are gay which seems to make things really easy as the gays will encourage things along for you. The few times I thought I was going to get the ONS but didn't, it was usually because her friend had got too drunk and needed help going home or something. LMR is rare too once you are alone.

[ThailandRockstar]

What bars and clubs were you going to (names / locations) that resulted in 1-2 ONS a week? That's quite impressive as I don't know any farang in BKK that is pulling that off with regular good girls so often even those who are out almost every night.

Most guys I know (myself included) settle into banging regulars once we find some good ones, topping up the rotation with some girls from online and occasionally day game and the odd good girl from the clubs when we get lucky but I've yet to meet anyone out here who can get the same night lays with decent girls from the middle class venues with any regularity.

I want to know your secrets.

[Kieran]

Generally the same venues I talked about with you before. These girls weren't the best though (when I say decent, I am talking sixes to low sevens), and I never even came close to ONS with the really good looking girls. In fact, I only got two eights the whole time I was there and these were from daygame and a lot of effort to get them to meet up after. I will try to focus on daygame more if I go again as I see so many good looking girls in the day (dropped online game completely after a few weeks as quality was crap, with girls that looked pretty and white turning up looking completely different).

ONS is going on though. My Thai friend from Japan would get ONS much more than me when he visited, probably about half the time he came out. He had good game though; he got one of the best looking girls I've ever seen (a half Thai model that he gamed in the afternoon when we were shopping at the Comme Des Garcons store at Erawan Hotel, and then banged later the same night).

[Kieran]

One thing I thought I better make clear for people planning to go. This was the result of a total of 3+ years of work. I didn't get off the plane and start getting with decent quality girls. In fact I was near celibate for the first 6 months I was there (only got two notches and I would be ashamed to be seen with them now). I probably could have got results online, but this was back in 2006 and I didn't even think to use online game). I pretty much dedicated all of my time outside of boxing to getting good with Thai girls (learning to speak Thai, going out nearly every night, adjusting my style to be more suitable for the young Thai crowd etc).

[speeddemon]

(05-27-2013 03:09 AM)Kieran Wrote:  

Generally the same venues I talked about with you before. These girls weren't the best though (when I say decent, I am talking sixes to low sevens), and I never even came close to ONS with the really good looking girls. In fact, I only got two eights the whole time I was there and these were from daygame and a lot of effort to get them to meet up after.

This is a bit confusing because everyone has such different standards on this forum.

Can you possibly show us some pics from google/real life that can help us get a better idea of what type of girls you are referring to?

[Kieran]

Yeah I guess it's pretty subjective. My type is light skinned, thin, taller than average, cute face and dress sense (not sexy), polite, and reasonably intelligent.

I don't want to use photos from my facebook so I'll try and think of examples from the media.

This is an annoying song but I'll use it anyway. For me the girl in pink would easily be an 8 as she is light skinned, cute, and bright (she is from Chulalongkorn Uviversity). The girl in the turquoise blue would be a 7, maybe 7.5 as she is attractive and slim, and the girl in the more purple blue colour would be about a 6 - 6.5 as she isn't pretty, but still well groomed and slim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...9QI7vNg9BU

9s are the rare beauties you see here and there, 6s are the ubiquitous tight bodied uni students you see everywhere, but that just aren't all that pretty.

[The Fantasist]

Damn, threads like this really give me the travel bug to go on a notch mission.

After years of averaging no more than one Slavic girl a week or less it would be awesome to rack some serious numbers up again in SE Asia.

Is there anywhere in SE Asia that has cooler temps in June / July or is it sticky and hot everywhere? The humidity at this time of year kills me, any places high up at altitude or something where you're not dripping the second you leave your room?

[DirectDanger]

@Vorkuta
If the goal is to bang as much as possible then you have to stick to the big cities Bangkok/Manila/Jakarta. All of which are hot. Temps are much better in Bangkok and Manila in Nov/Dec/Jan, avoid Mar/April/May as that is by far the hottest.

Bangkok/Manila rainy season = Jun - Oct
Jakarta rainy season = Jan - April

Places like Chiang Mai, Thailand - Bandung, Indonesia - Baguio, Philippines are up in the mountains a bit and have slightly cooler temps. These places will not be nearly as fruitful in getting a ton of bangs.

[ThailandRockstar]

Quote:

I will try to focus on daygame more if I go again as I see so many good looking girls in the day (dropped online game completely after a few weeks as quality was crap, with girls that looked pretty and white turning up looking completely different).

Day game can be good. Hit the malls and push for instant dates or dates that same night.

People seem to have wildly different experiences online. I'm happy with the quality on the whole but you can't take their profile photos at face value you have to get them on Skype to cam or get them taking instant photos to send on Whatsapp / Line to make sure the profile photos are recent.

[Hallasan]

THC,

Are you almost done with your 100 Notch thread?

[I have seen the rough draft: there is a tremendous amount of data to go along with the 4 more months of experiences he has of tearing up SEA]

Then again, you're probably near 150 now so you may as well just wait a little while and create that one