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Alternative lifestyles?
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Alternative lifestyles?

I am thinking about dropping out of society and I am looking at alternative lifestyles. Does anyone have any experience with
this? I'm kind of a spiritual hippie so I am thinking about either becoming a swinger, joining a commune or a cult ,or going to India to join an ashram. I am getting a divorce, am fed up with life, and am tired of chasing money simply for the sake of it.

Does anyone ever have this feeling?
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Alternative lifestyles?

Quote: (05-10-2010 02:17 AM)moose Wrote:  

I am thinking about dropping out of society and I am looking at alternative lifestyles. Does anyone have any experience with
this? I'm kind of a spiritual hippie so I am thinking about either becoming a swinger, joining a commune or a cult ,or going to India to join an ashram. I am getting a divorce, am fed up with life, and am tired of chasing money simply for the sake of it.

Does anyone ever have this feeling?

Yeah and I say if it's strong enough, do it. Just realize the risks and rewards of each and set up a safety net for yourself just in case you want to get out. Sometimes it seems like an attractive thing to do just to drop off the face of the earth and live a care-free life. I've definitely day-dreamed about just buying some land in thailand, growing my own weed, and living off the land. But then I realized I'd probably be bored as fuck and miss living in a society where I have constant entertainment at my finger-tips and the ability to fuck hot girls after a couple of months.
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#3

Alternative lifestyles?

I used to be a pretty die hard hippie type. I blame some strange experiences that put me in that mindset for many years.

I may have kept that course if I didn't have family members who had pursued that lifestyle throughout their lives, as well as some harder core hippies as friends, to observe.

My conclusion was that long term poverty affects your mental health in a big way. Add long term substance abuse to that, and you can have some real problems as well as a very stressful life.

I'm a fast learner, and my ultimate goal is happiness, not some dogma that dictates how I should live my life. I also found the average hippy personality very hypocritical, although there was the occasional great human being mixed in. I didnt want to be associated with a clique that worked so hard to alienate everyone else. Although, most would never admit that.

Therefore, I actively pursue projects which will allow me to 'drop out' but still make money. If you want to drop out, don't neglect your finances. You dont want to be scrambling when your old. Scramble for cash flow systems now, and relax on that commune when your older without any financial pressure.
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#4

Alternative lifestyles?

This may interest you: http://www.wwoof.org/

It's a network of organic farm communes
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#5

Alternative lifestyles?

I have thought about it I guess in a different way. I havea job to where I work for 4 1/2 months and get 1 1/2 months off every 6 months, and have a guaranteed job after that 1 1/2. I figure I make enough money to travel abroad for that 1 1/2 months every year, but the thing is, what will I do when I get old? What if I want a family at some point in life? If I did live that life, I would barely be getting by and there would be no way I would be able to save money for when I'm older. I've recently decided I'll be going back to school in August and persuing a career in which I will be able to travel. I just feel like that's my best option.
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#6

Alternative lifestyles?

Quote: (05-10-2010 03:51 PM)lavinci Wrote:  

Quote: (05-10-2010 01:34 PM)Brandon E Wrote:  

I've recently decided I'll be going back to school in August and persuing a career in which I will be able to travel. I just feel like that's my best option.
What career have you decided on?

I haven't yet, still looking at my options. I'm also looking into becoming a travel agent or something like that, working from home. My friend just found a random add on Craigs List being a travel agent and now works from home making $500-1000 a week depending on how much he sells. He's about to go do 3 months training in Salt Lake City and after that, he should be making close to $100000 a year and he is 23. He had no experience. I know I would kill it at that type of a job. I work in hotels and get tipped huge because I'm good at talking with people. He wants me to find a job like his and go travel for 5 years with him while we work from our apartments in whichever country we decide to live in for that 6 months, and then move on to the next country. Those jobs are out there, you just have to find them.
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Alternative lifestyles?

Quote: (05-10-2010 02:17 AM)moose Wrote:  

I am thinking about dropping out of society and I am looking at alternative lifestyles. Does anyone have any experience with
this? I'm kind of a spiritual hippie so I am thinking about either becoming a swinger, joining a commune or a cult ,or going to India to join an ashram. I am getting a divorce, am fed up with life, and am tired of chasing money simply for the sake of it.

Does anyone ever have this feeling?

What you are is burnt out. That does not mean the solution is to go smoke pot in the Alpujarras or go to an ashram in the Punjab.

The first thing you need to do is to stave off depression and get your energy level back up. This can be accomplished by a healthy diet and exercise. Natural sunlight is also good.

Once you are ok in the head, you can make the proper decisions.

You should never make decisions based on running away from something.

Figure out what you want in a positive sense, and then run towards that. Your journey will be much better.
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Alternative lifestyles?

Quote: (05-10-2010 02:17 AM)moose Wrote:  

I am thinking about dropping out of society and I am looking at alternative lifestyles. Does anyone have any experience with this? I'm kind of a spiritual hippie so I am thinking about either becoming a swinger, joining a commune or a cult ,or going to India to join an ashram.

Being a swinger has nothing common with dropping out of society. I am, and from my experience the whole swinger community is pretty down-to-earth (as they're mostly married couples). I have not yet met a single "spiritual hippie" type there.

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I am getting a divorce, am fed up with life, and am tired of chasing money simply for the sake of it.

Just make a long-term plan before you start. Working 9 to 5 in cubicle indeed does not look exciting when you're 20, but trust me, it is even less exciting when you're 50. Note that you need to work at least ten years to be eligible for Social Security when you retire at 65, and that the older you become, the more money you'd need. This is also related to women. A 20 year old living with parents and spending the money on rave clubs is fine, but a 50 year old doing the same looks like a loser.
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Alternative lifestyles?

Quote: (05-10-2010 11:09 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

Therefore, I actively pursue projects which will allow me to 'drop out' but still make money. If you want to drop out, don't neglect your finances. You dont want to be scrambling when your old. Scramble for cash flow systems now, and relax on that commune when your older without any financial pressure.

That is a good post. I would just like to add one thing: spending time on your career when you're young really pays off toward the lifestyle you choose. During last three years I have spent more than six months overseas, and haven't paid a single cent from my pocket - actually I've even been paid for that.
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I don't think you would get bored if you are around other people who feel the same way and life a similar lifestyle, I doubt I could go through with it in the long run though, probably drop out of that to and come back into "society" after a few months : D
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#11

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Not a big load of infos, but interesting definition : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_traveler
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#12

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Yeah, I love most things related to PT except for all the paranoia about people spying on me and 911 conspiracy theories.

Lots of cool things about being a PT though, for sure - if your lifestyle will allow you to handle it. I've noticed that my social circles have changed dramatically and I'm less able to relate to my friends in NY who haven't been outside of the US.

After I finish my water investment series for my blog, I plan to do one about visa-free or visa-convenient travel for Americans who like to be mobile. I'll start with SE Asia.

Candidate cities to be covered:

-Bangkok
-Singapore
-Hong Kong
-Manila
-Saigon
-Bali
-Kuala Lumpur

Categories to be judged:

-Cost of Living
-Ease of doing business
-Convenience of visas for Americans
-Food
-Culture (aka degree to which Islam or Singaporean police affects your partying)
-Language
-Attractiveness of local women

If anyone would like to see different candidate cities or different/additional categories of judgment, let me know.
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#13

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Quote: (05-10-2010 04:19 PM)Brandon E Wrote:  

Quote: (05-10-2010 03:51 PM)lavinci Wrote:  

Quote: (05-10-2010 01:34 PM)Brandon E Wrote:  

I've recently decided I'll be going back to school in August and persuing a career in which I will be able to travel. I just feel like that's my best option.
What career have you decided on?

I haven't yet, still looking at my options. I'm also looking into becoming a travel agent or something like that, working from home. My friend just found a random add on Craigs List being a travel agent and now works from home making $500-1000 a week depending on how much he sells. He's about to go do 3 months training in Salt Lake City and after that, he should be making close to $100000 a year and he is 23. He had no experience. I know I would kill it at that type of a job. I work in hotels and get tipped huge because I'm good at talking with people. He wants me to find a job like his and go travel for 5 years with him while we work from our apartments in whichever country we decide to live in for that 6 months, and then move on to the next country. Those jobs are out there, you just have to find them.
Sounds pretty scammy to me, the first clue was "Craig's List"....

Wait a while and see how this turns out, I predict it won't like he said. Probably the advert says he has the "potential" to earn $100k, when in reality the vast majority of that will be in unrealistic commission?
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