[Nomad77]

This is a mistake I still make to this day and I hate myself every time I do it. Here's is what happens: I feel bad/depressed whatever for some reason. I contact or interact with a girl hoping she will make me feel better. What actually happens, is that she punishes me in some way for that weak moment. Unless you really have a girl wrapped up, any display of emotional weakness will have negative and serious repercusions. I have a rule about this that I still break from time to time and I hate myself every time I do it.

Don't interact with any potential targets if you are feeling weak in any way: physically or emotionally. Feeling a bit sick, don't call, text, or message them. If you are angry or upset, that's different. But if you are feeling depressed or down, don't interact with them at all. I have lost more girls because I have broken this rule more than any other. Women can smell weakness and like a wild animal they will attack you indirectly for it. If you are feeling emotionally weak for any reason don't interact with girls in any way. Going out gaming, calling a target, evening sending a text will only diminish you in her eyes. She will smell the weakness in your communication. It's the same like interacting with a girl when you are drunk.

While this is hard, until you have a girl locked down, you ALWAYS want to interact with her when you are feeling strong in every way. It is better to wait until you are operating at 100% than to try and pull it off when you know you are only running at 70%. All of the value you have built to that point can be lost in just one moment of weakness.

PS Have to talk to someone, call or meet up with a friend. (And jacking off will make you weak whereas sex with a woman doesn't.)

[ElBorrachoInfamoso]

This is natural. Of course situations will always come up that sap your strength. When she reacts by testing you at some point in the near future, treat her like shit. e.g. "what the fuck is wrong with you" "I don't have the patience to deal with your shit" "get the fuck out of my house! ". Bitch needs to know to keep her ass in check.

[Brosemite]

This is true on so many levels as showing weakness is such a big turn off. I've also lost certain gals bc of these mistakes in my past too, but I've also been fortunate in being to recover at certain times to bed some of those same gals few months later, etc when regaining my overall confidence & perspective on life.

[elabayarde]

Good post. Its is very true!!!

[Nomad77]

Yes, sometimes you can recover IF you correct and compensate for it right away or just stop and don't do any more damage. Usually, what happens though, is the girl pulls back and being in your weakened state you dig your hole even deeper.

A good movie that shows this is Swingers.

(01-30-2013 12:50 PM)yb13 Wrote:  

This is true on so many levels as showing weakness is such a big turn off. I've also lost certain gals bc of these mistakes in my past too, but I've also been fortunate in being to recover at certain times to bed some of those same gals few months later, etc when regaining my overall confidence & perspective on life.

[Duke Castile]

I've done this, especially over text when I'm actually just joking around. It's why phone calls are better IMO.

[Nomad77]

If you are feeling weak and call, it's even worse. Then they hear it in your voice instead of just sensing it in your message.

I have become so paranoid about this that I will break 1st/2nd/3rd dates if I "sense" I am not running at least at 90%.
After you've had sex a few times you can get away with running at less than 90% but only if you make it an infrequent thing.

[Duke Castile]

(01-30-2013 01:03 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

If you are feeling weak and call, it's even worse. Then they hear it in your voice instead of just sensing it in your message.

I have become so paranoid about this that I will break 1st/2nd/3rd dates if I "sense" I am not running at least at 90%.
After you've had sex a few times you can get away with running at less than 90% but only if you make it an infrequent thing.

Well this is a good example of why you should know yourself. I feel confident on the phone, more so in person. I don't like texting because there is so much room for misinterpretation.

I feel depressed after drinking too much, this is when I usually go for radio silence.

[Nomad77]

True, I am weak on the phone, strongest in person, and ok with messaging.

[Brosemite]

(01-30-2013 12:59 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

Yes, sometimes you can recover IF you correct and compensate for it right away or just stop and don't do any more damage. Usually, what happens though, is the girl pulls back and being in your weakened state you dig your hole even deeper.

A good movie that shows this is Swingers.

(01-30-2013 12:50 PM)yb13 Wrote:  

This is true on so many levels as showing weakness is such a big turn off. I've also lost certain gals bc of these mistakes in my past too, but I've also been fortunate in being to recover at certain times to bed some of those same gals few months later, etc when regaining my overall confidence & perspective on life.

Yea I've been lucky in the sense that some of these chicks were a part of a "social circle" so eventually wanted to test me out aka fuck buddy friend zone. It particularly helped that they got to see the "different elements" of my personality so knew that I wasn't the needy guy 90% of the time. Then again there is a way to vent towards women that can make them laugh naturally feeling the interest to gravitate towards you opposed to in a sad needy way. Catching them out of the blue with funny texts like "ugh..need a drink, come with?" etc hasn't worked all the time, but it's worked enough to result in lays bc it's an indicator that you'll have something interesting to provide..esp helps when alcohol & timely execution of game is present at time of the in person meeting.

[Kaizen]

Very True. The weeshest stuff Ive ever done happened in moments of weakness.

Horrible texts, phone calls, etc.