[kingkong]

Can anyone relate real world experience with street game in urban environments? What works, what doesn't, recount a story or two? Maybe point to literature?

I am trying to build up the gumption to hang around outside DC area metro stations during evening rush hour and hit on women as they exit. At half a dozen stops near me I can see twice as many attractive women in thirty minutes as hanging around in bars over five hours. The other aspect is demographics. These rush-hour girls are typically well employed and well dressed middle class women who interest me, whereas at a lot of the bars I enjoy I end up meeting odd-balls with pseudo-jobs who are fun but I don't ultimately relate to well.

The only line I can think of right now is: "Excuse me, I'm going to meet a friend near here. Any restaurant recommendations? You look like someone with good taste." And then rap from there: you live nearby, how long, blah blah. Ideas welcome. But, I don't do "opinion openers" as I've repeatedly seen them described. Period. I'll go to my grave never having sex again before I ask a random girl her thoughts on some fake drama story to do with some fake people I don't actually know.

The metro hunting idea is precipitated by being pressed for time and energy these days. I can barely afford to go out at night once a week. Even then I rarely have a late night in me anymore (league play in the morning, or have to get up and get shit done). However, I can easily afford to go stand around outside a metro station three times a week for half an hour, and then simply go back to work.

[Giovonny]

KingKong,

You're on the right track with your "Excuse me" line. This is a tough way to pick up chicks , but if you do enough of it you will get a sense of how to vibe with girls as they are on the bus/train or just walking out in public.

I have done this type of approach hundreds of times. You will definatley learn alot by just approaching with your current plan. I have learned so much about how to approach in a non threatning way, with a cool aloof vibe, almost pretending that I am a shy guy. I sharp witty statement/comment/question DELIVERED WITH THE RIGHT TONE AND BODY LANGAUGE, and boom, the conversation is on. It only takes a second. Its gotta be a decisive, confident second where you look her in the eyes and you don't fucking flinch.

Yes, you are really striking up a conversation with her right here and now. It sort of rare because most guys don't have the balls to do it. "Is he really trying to flirt with me right now" she will think to herself. They love that. Just flash that puppy dog smile and let the conversation flow. After a few approaches like this you will really learn alot and tighten up your game.

I used to give off a very strong player/pua vibe. Now I can just seem like a regular young professional taking public transportation home who happens to strike up a conversation with a cute girl. This is what we should be doing anyways. It is a tough way to meet girls but i have met and banged alot of girls like this. It a great way to keep your game sharp.

I gotta go to bed but tomm I will breakdown some more specific examples.

[AlphaQup2nite]

The best bit of advice to give is never limit yourself by location, and dont worry too much about the opener. Really, an opening is about 1% of your game. Game development is 75% personality development and conversational skills, and 25% technical tricks and trips. If you follow the game properly, it will teach you how to display yourself in a manner that is attractive to women, else give you fake stories or drama or what not to take the place of crappy personality.

Really, if you are a desirable person in your normal life, it becomes the most natural thing in the world to go up and talk to girls about anything and start a cool conversation about anything you want. Ive kissed and/or banged girls Ive opened with the most retarded things in the world depending on the situation, such as the simple "how the hell do you work this lighter?" to "hey you, feeling horny now?" (this wasnt a slut who said yes) to "when is the next bus" to a "hi". All you need is a smooth transition into whatever you feel like talking about. Simply put, its not the opener itself that matters, its the person who is opening, and how interesting and cool he is. Thats why the three second rule works, you are putting yourself out in the situation where you are talking to people, and you will instinctively start to figure out what works and doesn't in your pool. For example, my game will be different then say Gmanifesto's or roosh's simply because of location, or financial standing. Like i would say for example, my game is almost 95% day game, simply because the girls who goto bars and clubs arent usually there for a good time here in China if they are local, and almost every single girl you chat up at a bar is a hooker of some sort, or hired by the bar to drink with you to up sales. Group approaches are easier for me, because i work a crowd well, but since the girls are so passive, its always the guys i end up talking to and drinking with in the mixed groups b/c they are much more passive with the girls chatting with themselves.

Just try it out, and find out what works for you. Don't think of any idea as too stupid to try until you do, at least 10 times. Each person has their own personality and style they bring to the game, and the best game for you is to build on to your own strengths, rather then look to imitate others style. Sure you can learn a starting point, but ive found the best thing to do is to jump in on your own with whatever. Try current events from the news papers, local going on's as an opener and letting value shine thought conversation and body language. That is probably the best advice anyone has ever given me in the game.

[Willy Wonka]

Yeah, man, just get out there and try it.

[HD668B]

I dont know about "excuse me"... why should you excuse yourself? Your the cool guy, your the one approaching when 95% of the guys are scared or think its wrong to talk to girls in the metro!

In a completly normal environnement like this, I find that going direct is good for me. "hey (make a longgg pause) , im going off next station but I saw you, and I think we should see eachother this week, grabb a café or something" and then just give her my phone. Dont forget girls are in the metro because they need to get to somewhere, so lingering around is not a sensational idea... Oh and like Alpha said, body language is so much important. no smile, always look in eyes, straight posture, etc...

[thegmanifesto]

I have been reworking on my day Game in Barcelona, should have a decent data sheet soon.