[The Troubled One]

I'm currently a high school senior(17) living in a town near San Jose, and I plan on gaming from now until September when I leave for college. What are the best parts of the Bay Area for street game(most accessible/friendly/non-entitled women), and what social events should I look into if I plan on getting laid?

A fake ID is on the cards for this summer, but from now until June(my contact doesn't come back till then) I plan on exclusively running street/mall game or rave/concert/teen nightclub game. I'm 6'1, Indian, and decent looking, if that makes any real difference; my game is mediocre at best, but, of course, I hope to change that through persistent practice.

[Prestige]

For you I would go with san jose or concord walnut creek area. When you get old enough sf lol
Source nor cal bay area all my life 27 years

[skulled]

As Prestige said, I would avoid SF given your situation.

Try hanging out in the Palo Alto, Stanford areas since it should be close by for you. Sunnyvale might also be an option, but don't know much about the area personally so can't offer a concrete opinion.

[haywire]

Avoid south bay/peninsula at ALL costs.

Game in SF and Berkeley, around campuses and malls(coz that's where you'll find girls your age).

Oakland also has some options, but since you're only 17 it's no good right now.

[The Troubled One]

Has anyone gamed in San Jose? Is SJ suited to daygame, and if so, what are the spots? Finally, how easy would it be for me to fake ID my way into a club in SJ or Palo Alto?

[haywire]

I have. Don't waste your time in Man Jose. It ain't called that without a reason. Goto SF/Berkeley, but if you still want to stick to the south side, look up the colleges around(SJSU, Santa Clara and a few community ones as well I think) and hang out in the campuses and try your luck.

[EisenBarde]

If you have friends in college, visit them. It will help you avoid some of the freshman idiocy.

[Viagra_Falls]

If you have a car, put up a fake POF profile saying you're 18 and sarge the girls in the central valley (Stockton, Modesto should be about an hour from where you are with about 1 million people). Girls there are bored, broke, horny as fuck and unentitled. Lots of latinas and cougars; generally easy pickings. Polar opposite of the bay area (which is the worst place in cali to game chicks). Plus its hot as fuck there right now so the girls would tend to stay up later drinking & skinny dipping & what not. Not the best looking girls, but slightly better than the Bay and a hell of a lot easier.

[OkStudies]

^ That's what I've been saying all along. The Bay sucks balls for gaming. Chicks here are definitely of the entitled/feminist variety. Worse still, poorly dressed, and with shitty, ball breaking, attitudes. And don't even bother to game the 18-28 white chicks here. It's much less of a headache to just go for asian/hispanic girls. The black girls are wack with wack faces, skin and weight problems.

[godofwar]

santa clara university sucks for gaming. I'm a grad student, did my UG at arizona state. I got looks all day long, every day, just walking around campus. After a year here, absolutely nothing.

I'm hispanic and not rich like most of the white girls that predominate the school. But carry myself like a motherfucker and good looking.

so far the only success i have had is with girls with alcohol in them. they are just looking to hook up, not even the most casual of dating. straight up slut culture. these girls are career oriented women, so they just fuck when they want. when they are drunk.

find drunk girls in the bay. good luck finding a good lucking one without a pack of dudes around her though.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

simple recommendation:

1. work your ass off in the bay area to earn money.

2. Leave the bay area and never come back.

The bay area is a feminist wasteland, and hostile to true alpha hetero men.

[The Troubled One]

(06-30-2013 07:39 PM)Viagra_Falls Wrote:  

If you have a car, put up a fake POF profile saying you're 18 and sarge the girls in the central valley (Stockton, Modesto should be about an hour from where you are with about 1 million people). Girls there are bored, broke, horny as fuck and unentitled. Lots of latinas and cougars; generally easy pickings. Polar opposite of the bay area (which is the worst place in cali to game chicks). Plus its hot as fuck there right now so the girls would tend to stay up later drinking & skinny dipping & what not. Not the best looking girls, but slightly better than the Bay and a hell of a lot easier.

Thanks for the advice. Yeah, I've heard a lot of good things about the Central Valley region; the whole area is a hot, dangerous, shithole, meaning that any islands of civilization will be easy pickings for a decent guy with decent game. Plus I roll with five other guys, all of whom are gigantic, so hopefully I won't face any trouble from local assholes trying to act tough(I've heard that Stockton is filled with these types).

The posts below, however, are bullshit. I agree that the Bay is probably harder than most other areas, but the place is literally packed with community colleges, universities, and malls, all of which are swarming with bored and attractive women. I agree that the nightlife in the South Bay is nothing short of terrible, but there are definitely places outside that are worth checking out; Berkeley and Oakland are worth checking out, and SF is damn near perfect for daygame. Sure, plenty of girls are entitled and bitchy, but I defy you to find a single place in the country where this isn't the case. There are just as many who are very approachable, and, in any case, developing the ability to overcome the bitch shields can only be good for your game. If the bitch shields really are that much of a problem, then avoid places like Valley Fair Mall, Downtown SJ, and Santana Row and exclusively daygame at community colleges.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(07-01-2013 04:25 AM)The Troubled One Wrote:  

(06-30-2013 07:39 PM)Viagra_Falls Wrote:  

If you have a car, put up a fake POF profile saying you're 18 and sarge the girls in the central valley (Stockton, Modesto should be about an hour from where you are with about 1 million people). Girls there are bored, broke, horny as fuck and unentitled. Lots of latinas and cougars; generally easy pickings. Polar opposite of the bay area (which is the worst place in cali to game chicks). Plus its hot as fuck there right now so the girls would tend to stay up later drinking & skinny dipping & what not. Not the best looking girls, but slightly better than the Bay and a hell of a lot easier.

Thanks for the advice. Yeah, I've heard a lot of good things about the Central Valley region; the whole area is a hot, dangerous, shithole, meaning that any islands of civilization will be easy pickings for a decent guy with decent game. Plus I roll with five other guys, all of whom are gigantic, so hopefully I won't face any trouble from local assholes trying to act tough(I've heard that Stockton is filled with these types).

The posts below, however, are bullshit. I agree that the Bay is probably harder than most other areas, but the place is literally packed with community colleges, universities, and malls, all of which are swarming with bored and attractive women. I agree that the nightlife in the South Bay is nothing short of terrible, but there are definitely places outside that are worth checking out; Berkeley and Oakland are worth checking out, and SF is damn near perfect for daygame. Sure, plenty of girls are entitled and bitchy, but I defy you to find a single place in the country where this isn't the case. There are just as many who are very approachable, and, in any case, developing the ability to overcome the bitch shields can only be good for your game. If the bitch shields really are that much of a problem, then avoid places like Valley Fair Mall, Downtown SJ, and Santana Row and exclusively daygame at community colleges.

I live in the north bay, I go to a community college near concord, I sometimes go daygaming in SF, and I have gone out clubbing in SF at night. I can tell that I'll rather read a book than go out here in this feminist wasteland. and anyway, why bother going out in the US when you can save your money and travel to other places of the world where there are a million times more better looking and dtf women than here in the bay. when you learn that, you would not waste your time and learn to live.

[OkStudies]

^ Co-sign.

[VincentVinturi]

(06-30-2013 10:27 PM)Hispanic_Reasoning Wrote:  

simple recommendation:

1. work your ass off in the bay area to earn money.

2. Leave the bay area and never come back.

The bay area is a feminist wasteland, and hostile to true alpha hetero men.

Bleak assessment and sadly, I have to agree.

I spent a few years in San Francisco and it's WORK. In general...The women are all about their careers, have an entitled snobby attitude, logistics are a nightmare, it's expensive, tons of rich beta nerds balloon female egos. Feminism to the max.

On the other hand, it's a great environment to learn fast and take a ton of shots. Daygame is great. Just try not to cringe when you hear the dreaded chick voice.... "YEAH...really...REALLY? ...yah. I kinda feel like...it's like I just don't knoooow."

I worked my ass off to get laid in SF but I had a few friends with large social circles who cleaned up. Status and social circle game is huge there, especially because everybody's jockeying for better jobs, better apartment, better cute undiscovered restaurants and everybody has to know about it.

[OGNorCal707]

I just got back from a weekend in the Bay and I got to disagree with a lot of what's being said here, however I should state that I was visiting and every time I'm in the Bay it's for usually 3-4 days max, I think the most time I've spent continuously was like 5 days in S.F.

That said, I spent the weekend at a relatives house in Berkeley and spent one day sightseeing in S.F., my parents flew out from the east coast for a mini-vacation and wanted to see me so I spent the whole time with them. I didn't do any "gaming", other than chatting up a early-thirty something chick in front of a grocery store in S.F.

But, I saw a shit ton of cute honeys, I almost got a boner walking around the streets of Berkeley during the day time, granted the weather has been hot and sunny which is always a recipe for women to get out in sexy clothes, but I saw an endless stream of fine 18-26 year old chicks parading around town in tight jean booty shorts and clevage revealing tops.

Right now UC Berkeley isn't even in session and there are still tons of hot girls walking around every where near the campus and the more urban parts of town (Telegraph Ave., Shattuck Ave, College Ave., Channing Way, etc.). It's got to be even better when the semester is in session. For all the talk about how there are not hot chicks in the Bay, I wonder if any of these cats are chilling in Berkeley, are from cities with even better talent (LA/Miami), or just have ridiculously high standards (thinks anything under a legit 9 in beneath them).

When I went with my parents to S.F. for the day we ate lunch at the cliff house, walked past the Sutro Baths, and walked the trail to lands end, which goes along the bluffs above the ocean with great views of the Golden Gate Bridge, all along the trail there were cute girls jogging. Then on the way pack my Dad drove threw the Marina, which admittedly has the hottest women in the whole city, but damn I thought the talent was pretty stellar there.

We parked on Union at Fillmore St. and looked around, then we went to get a cup of coffee and I found this bomb grocery store called the "Real Food Co." on Fillmore, I don't know if any of you guys have shopped there, but I swear it was full of cute 7-8's that all seemed to be by themselves. I saw maybe 10 cute chicks and like 3 guys the entire time I was in there, out front there are tables and a bunch of girls walking in/out, and chilling eating/drinking food, I chatted up a early 30 something that was in great shape and pretty good looking, she had just finished up a yoga class and had her mat with her and was wearing some tight yoga pants. Didn't bother trying to run any "hard game" on her since I don't live there and my parents were about to step out and join me, but I think that place could be a goldmine for day game.

All in all though I think everything is relative and I'm coming from a place that literally has the worst quantity and quality of talent in all of California. I know I've been portrayed as a whiner on here and admittedly I have been at times, but when you are in a place with so few attractive women and go to a place where they are buzzing like bees swarming out of a hive, it really can get your head in a spin.

I think guys who complain in the Bay really need to take a look at themselves and their game, not to hate and try to play the blame game, but there are a decent amount of cute women in the Bay, I don't think it's quite as bad as guys are making it out to be. Like I said earlier, if you are coming from the right part of L.A. or Miami, or Scottsdale or anywhere were the talent is better, I could see how you might complain and see the Bay as a downgrade. However, lets be real and not try to make the Bay out to be bumfuck Alaska or the oil fields of Canada. Also, if you live in the Bay and aren't fucking maybe you need to lower your standards, sure there may not be 9's on every corner, but those 7.5's sure can look nice in those ass tight booty shorts.

Also, just realized that I should also say that not everywhere in the Bay is the same, there probably are going to be bitcher women and less opportunities in say Concord, Fremont, or Santa Clara, then in Berkeley or San Francisco.

[iknowexactly]

(07-01-2013 04:25 AM)The Troubled One Wrote:  

Thanks for the advice. Yeah, I've heard a lot of good things about the Central Valley region; the whole area is a hot, dangerous, shithole, meaning that any islands of civilization will be easy pickings for a decent guy with decent game. Plus I roll with five other guys, all of whom are gigantic, so hopefully I won't face any trouble from local assholes trying to act tough(I've heard that Stockton is filled with these types).

The posts below, however, are bullshit. I agree that the Bay is probably harder than most other areas, but the place is literally packed with community colleges, universities, and malls, all of which are swarming with bored and attractive women......

I'm up about an hour Northeast near Sacramento and I agree there's a lot of cute girls in the corridor here to SF.

The educational level is high in urban california, and I think a LOT of women have caught on to the diet dangers of the high-carb American diet in the last 5-7 years, so when they were 14 and thin they became aware if they didn't want to be a Walmart Whale they had to cut down on the pizza beer chips soda ice cream fries.

I speculate that carb addiction is a main reason a lot of older chicks have gone Walmart Whale, and once you've gotten that extra 30-40 pounds it's really hard to get rid of, 95% never do.

So now that these smart young chix are staying slim, it's better for men, more supply lowers commodity price while men are still intimidate by the leftover dregs of vicious anti-male feminism.

Berekely girls tend to be a special case, it is the equivalent of Harvard and they are under a lot of pressure, they are careerists, and succeeding big as an undergrad is just the start of their long, youth-destroying climb to a good gubmint job.

[Hispanic_Reasoning]

(07-01-2013 10:22 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

For all the talk about how there are not hot chicks in the Bay, I wonder if any of these cats are chilling in Berkeley, are from cities with even better talent (LA/Miami), or just have ridiculously high standards (thinks anything under a legit 9 in beneath them).

First of all, I was born in the bay area, and I have lived here all my life (unlike you). and no, I haven't lived in that worse cesspool named Los Angeles and I never will live there as I hate that city even more than I hate living in the bay area. and no, I don't have ridiculously high standards, nor do my friends. I am tired of bitches that are legit 6s and 7s thinking they're 9s.

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All in all though I think everything is relative and I'm coming from a place that literally has the worst quantity and quality of talent in all of California. I know I've been portrayed as a whiner on here and admittedly I have been at times, but when you are in a place with so few attractive women and go to a place where they are buzzing like bees swarming out of a hive, it really can get your head in a spin.

you live in santa rosa?

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I think guys who complain in the Bay really need to take a look at themselves and their game, not to hate and try to play the blame game, but there are a decent amount of cute women in the Bay,[quote]

LOL! it's not about just the looks, it's about personality, and I can't stand the personalities of bay area women. too fucking feminist and liberal.

[quote]Also, if you live in the Bay and aren't fucking maybe you need to lower your standards

I have noticed that americans are always the morons who say that sort of shit, lol. must be a coping mechanism to find the many ugly women of this country fuckable, lol.

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Also, just realized that I should also say that not everywhere in the Bay is the same, there probably are going to be bitcher women and less opportunities in say Concord, Fremont, or Santa Clara, then in Berkeley or San Francisco.

believe it or not, concord/walnut creek has some descent talent, but still, even if you paid me, I would not go for them nor any american women. too many risks and too little benefits being with an american woman.

[VincentVinturi]

(07-01-2013 10:22 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I think the most time I've spent continuously was like 5 days in S.F.

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But, I saw a shit ton of cute honeys, I almost got a boner walking around the streets of Berkeley during the day time

So you've never spent more than 5 days in SF in a row, you've got yourself a halfie and you talked to how many women and hooked up with how many of them?

Undeniably dude, the bay area has some REALLY hot girls. No disputing that. It's the difficulty of making anything happen there that's the real issue.

The logistics are a nightmare. It's super expensive. Women are incredibly career driven so prying your way into their schedules is a monumental feat. A lot of the exaggerated entitlement attitude mixed with feminism. I could go on.

Hot chicks are useless if you can't get them alone to get it on!

[Vaun]

for the sake of being a contrarian, I would probably rather daygame in a place like downtown Los Gatos, than anywhere in the entire bay area. I find SF woman to be inordinately self important, albeit stuck up snobs, feminist, etc. Some random ass midwest girl gets a job at Google and all of a sudden she is a super star, spare me. Way worse than LA or NYC. Downtown Palo Alto might be good. That big mall thing in San Jose might be good, whats it called? I will say though that the Latina women in the bay area are second to none in the US.

[Giovonny]

(07-01-2013 10:22 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I saw a shit ton of cute honeys

I also see a lot of cute girls when I'm in Berkeley.

(07-01-2013 10:22 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I found this bomb grocery store called the "Real Food Co." on Fillmore

I will have to check that out.

Thanks for the data.

(07-01-2013 10:22 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

I think guys who complain in the Bay really need to take a look at themselves and their game

Just like LA, it all depends on each mans specific location, situation, and strategy.

One guy could be getting laid and the next guy could living in beta hell.

Each man has his own unique situation and his own set of challenges and advantages.

There are winners and there are losers.

Are there hot girls in the Bay? Of course.

Are they all getting fucked by someone? Of course.

Where you live, your job, your wardrobe, your body, your game, your vibe, your conversational skills, your sense of humor, your social strategy, your work ethic, your imagination, your level of fear, your level of free time, etc., etc.

There are so many factors, so much that goes into it.

One man is in heaven and the next man is in hell.

This is life.

*****

Also, perspective matters a lot.

OG came from a small town with a limited amount of girls. Anytime, a small town guy comes to the big city with a major university, he is gonna say he saw a lot of chicks. He notices the beauty that is around.

Guys who live here see more of the problems and difficulties.

If OG lived here for a year, of course, his perspective would change.

He might experience how hard it can be to consistently pull these cuties. Or, he might find himself a great niche situation that allows him to have consistent success. It all depends if he can set up a system where he has some advantages.

Even among my friends, some guys are doing well and others are struggling.

WestCoast is doing pretty well for himself with his Salsa Game.

He has worked hard to perfect his method.

They Bay Area is good for some and bad for others.

For me, I used to struggle, but I worked hard, changed locations, and now I get some results.

It's not easy. Hard work, creativity, and imagination are necessary.

Location, location, location. Not in terms of real estate potential, but in terms of your pussy getting potential.

I live 5 minutes from a major university. I wouldn't do it any other way.

[Giovonny]

(07-01-2013 10:40 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

I'm up about an hour Northeast near Sacramento and I agree there's a lot of cute girls in the corridor here to SF.

You live in a great area for girls. Very underrated in my opinion.

And, its a great fit for you.

We all have to find our match. Not a women that is a good match but a neighborhood, city, or town that is a good match.

(07-02-2013 12:37 PM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

The logistics are a nightmare.

This all depends on your location.

If you live in a densely populated area and only date girls in the surrounding neighborhoods, you can get around very easily with the subway (Bart) and 12$ cab rides.

If you live in the suburbs and try to pull a girl from a downtown nightclub, its might be tough.

You want your bedroom to be no more than 10 minutes away from your hunting ground.

[Mujeriego]

I recently moved out of the South Bay after nearly a decade there. The fundamental problem with the South Bay is ROI. Your cost of living is through the roof but all you get is strip malls, b-team women, and weak nightlife. Michael Bloomberg gave the commencement speech this year at Stanford and in an effort to get grads to check out NYC's Silicon Alley, pointed out there was more to do on a Friday night than go to Pizza Hut. Additionally he joked, grads would get the chance to talk to girls who weren't named Siri. A hilarious but sad sum up of the South Bay.

Now for the girls. There are cute girls in the area but they're vastly outnumbered by their fat and/or ugly sisters. The bottom line is you will work harder for less. The fact that men outnumber women by almost 20% only adds to 5 that think they're 9's factor. I got by during my time there by going after the students and working class girls like Gio does. The bottom line is there are many places in the country where you can enjoy life for a fraction of the cost with the added bonus of hotter girls.

[Giovonny]

(07-02-2013 01:46 PM)Mujeriego Wrote:  

The bottom line is there are many places in the country where you can enjoy life for a fraction of the cost with the added bonus of hotter girls.

I starting to realize that maybe California sucks for most guys?!?!?

The Haves and the have nots. The gap is getting wider.

It's a jungle out there boys. You better have your shit together and think smarter than the average man. The average man is a beta follower. You must rise above the average sheeple in order to pull cute girls on the regular.

Mujeriego,

"Appetite" is one of my favorite albums.

[WestCoast]

The Bay Area threads are interesting it makes me wonder if people actually put in the time. If you're in the SF area or LA etc, it better be for a reason such as making money etc. Of course there are always better cities worldwide but the prices are high for a reason, legitimate opportunities.

This leads me to ask the following
1. Why are you in the bay if you can't keep a job?
2. If you have a chill job why are you not day gaming like Gio, if my job was different I would put in the work like he does, hell I did 6 hours straight of day game in a single day just because I have decided I want to expand from night game in a meaningful way. How many of you guys do 6 hours of a work in a single day period? Most guys I know have desk jobs and are "tired" after 8 hours where they spend 4 of those hours face booking and tweeting photos of their burgers at lunch. LOL that's not even 1/2 of a day of being awake.

The complaints about California boil down to this 1) it's harder, 2) I don't want to put in the work.

Okay fine. If it is easier from a wholistic view point, money + lifestyle + girls in another city... Just leave. My point is hat hese fraction of he cost places usually have terrible long-term earnings potential. Making 6 figures in nowhere Arizona, much harder than clearing 6 figures in SF.

If you have a niche in California making you money (main reason to be in SF/LA) stop complaining, save your money and go out there and put in the extra time. You dont need to be rich to get laid in the bay, maybe $100 a weekend max. No city is perfect, put in the work to fix whatever issues need to be addressed.

From my experience, no one is willing to put in the effort.

To end the rant. If you're in a tough game environment guess what this means when you land in an easy ass one like NYC? It's like playing JV level sports again after playing in the pros. There is good to every bad, most just choose to quit.

Hell I even tried to help an old college roomate of mine with game last month. He wanted to spend the day with me and didn't even make it to the nightlife time because he was "too tired". Poor baby I guess quitting is much more manly than powering through the gutter.