We all love our Mothers, despite what we say about women, we all do, unequivocally. That said, I was having a discussion with mine about feminism. We're very close so we have often had political debates through the years without any hard feeling (spare me the pun!). She's an academic...but not a leftist (something apparently so rare she has to hide her true Libertarian beliefs from her colleagues in fear of reprisal). However, she's recently become quite alarmed at the level of red-pill thinking I've been espousing, as has my brother...Although, he's a Cambridge undergraduate so he is adept at arguing, and with me so often it drives me insane as it's hard to win against someone so verbally dexterous. However, he has actually applied a few game techniques to gain advantage in his LTR. Specifically, some of the 'The Sixteen Commandments Of Poon'. ![[Image: banana.gif]](http://www.rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/new/banana.gif)
Anyway, despite my best efforts of explaining feminism/entitlement attitude/beta-hatred to them, they either dismiss it or, in the worst case, like the other day, call me a "nutcase" or words to that effect. Just because I argue with passion and with a supreme confidence that what I say is factually and logically accurate. I do get heated, but not to the point of frenzy or anything remotely like that.
However, one or two things she said are true. She said what I was deeming feminism wasn't feminism but just vapid individualism, and the loss of masculinity a product of global-capitalism as men's jobs had been stripped away and sent off-shore... She had some great points. I still think a lot of it IS feminism, at least modern feminism, but I do think some of the things we attribute to feminism are actually a product of 'equalism'. Yes, they are all born out of the same leftist idealism, as is cultural marxism, multiculturalism (apart from its globalist 'benefits') et al.
However, the way feminists, and girls in general, always say to betas "Be yourself, don't change" etc is, in my thinking now, a product not of feminism per se, but one of 'liberal equalism'. The 'equalitists' hate the notion of personal responsibility, so to actually advocate changing oneself, whether to betas or to fatties, is to betray the very ideology they purport to believe in. This also ties into their belief of cultural relativism, where everyone is indeed a special and unique snowflake and that every culture is magical and surely better than Western civilization pre-1960. To change oneself is to betray that ideal. It's heresy... oh the irony.
Ironically, they seek to change everything else BUT themselves. They seek to change demographics of Western countries. They want to establish feminism worldwide, yet don't condemn the burka, for doing so would contradict their cultural relativism. That is just one example of the utter contradiction that this brand of cultural leftism exemplifies. They want men to be weak and supplicating, yet deem the proud men of X 'wonderful' and the feminine women of Y 'exotically alluring'.
It is hypocrisy in its purest form. Do as we say, not as they do so wonderfully.
We see this equalism all the time, whether its in the examples above, or in giving all kids a medal at sports day even if they were too fat to compete. "He/She is special, in his/her own way, everybody is. Regardless of their achievements" This gives rise to entitlement and a level of self-worth utterly unbecoming in regards to it being attained worth through striving or ambition.
Anyway, apologies for the long post, just thought I'd share it to see what you think.
Anyway, despite my best efforts of explaining feminism/entitlement attitude/beta-hatred to them, they either dismiss it or, in the worst case, like the other day, call me a "nutcase" or words to that effect. Just because I argue with passion and with a supreme confidence that what I say is factually and logically accurate. I do get heated, but not to the point of frenzy or anything remotely like that.
However, one or two things she said are true. She said what I was deeming feminism wasn't feminism but just vapid individualism, and the loss of masculinity a product of global-capitalism as men's jobs had been stripped away and sent off-shore... She had some great points. I still think a lot of it IS feminism, at least modern feminism, but I do think some of the things we attribute to feminism are actually a product of 'equalism'. Yes, they are all born out of the same leftist idealism, as is cultural marxism, multiculturalism (apart from its globalist 'benefits') et al.
However, the way feminists, and girls in general, always say to betas "Be yourself, don't change" etc is, in my thinking now, a product not of feminism per se, but one of 'liberal equalism'. The 'equalitists' hate the notion of personal responsibility, so to actually advocate changing oneself, whether to betas or to fatties, is to betray the very ideology they purport to believe in. This also ties into their belief of cultural relativism, where everyone is indeed a special and unique snowflake and that every culture is magical and surely better than Western civilization pre-1960. To change oneself is to betray that ideal. It's heresy... oh the irony.
Ironically, they seek to change everything else BUT themselves. They seek to change demographics of Western countries. They want to establish feminism worldwide, yet don't condemn the burka, for doing so would contradict their cultural relativism. That is just one example of the utter contradiction that this brand of cultural leftism exemplifies. They want men to be weak and supplicating, yet deem the proud men of X 'wonderful' and the feminine women of Y 'exotically alluring'.
It is hypocrisy in its purest form. Do as we say, not as they do so wonderfully.
We see this equalism all the time, whether its in the examples above, or in giving all kids a medal at sports day even if they were too fat to compete. "He/She is special, in his/her own way, everybody is. Regardless of their achievements" This gives rise to entitlement and a level of self-worth utterly unbecoming in regards to it being attained worth through striving or ambition.
Anyway, apologies for the long post, just thought I'd share it to see what you think.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H L Mencken
