[Kwisatz]

You gave her something, for nothing. That’s where you lost everything. Try again, use the exact words I typed up. Do it at least 20 times, on 20 different strippers. I suggest several clubs. Remember, women talk to each other.

Will you try that and let me know how it goes and what the results are?

(11-04-2014 01:11 AM)Catch 22 Wrote:  

The most recent one asked me for a tip when I turned her down for a dance. I think I gave her $6. She came back and we talked for awhile. She asked for a massage. Fine, gave her one. And eventually she just asked me what I wanted to get into that night. I think she talked about partying and I said that I was up for whatever and didn't have to get up the next morning but don't do drugs (that's what I thought she was getting at, especially because it was Mons, a club known for hot dancers that don't go beyond the script). She threw out getting her number in exchange for money. I declined.

[Catch 22]

Sure, I'll give it a try. Might take a little while, though, to get 20 in because of a low bankroll lately.

[AneroidOcean]

(11-04-2014 01:24 AM)Kwisatz Wrote:  

You gave her something, for nothing. That’s where you lost everything.

While I'm skeptical at a 40% conversion rate, I could see it being successful with the right look/physique and delivery and you've made solid contributions in the past.

I know that in my own experience I've been able to get a stripper and her friend's to come hang out with my friend's, then follow up with all their contact information (including the smoking hot stripper who I stayed in touch with but unfortunately never banged), and that was just because I was fed up with spending money on my friends and just wanted to go socialize and not spend more than a dollar at one of the stages. This was when I was totally blue pill and not actually any good at talking to girls.

Also, about a year ago I had a fairly eye opening experience where, again, not wanting to spend any more money on ludicrously priced alcohol or lap dances, I managed to get quite a few lap dances, some free drinks, and a couple surprisingly good massages from dancers in exchange for shoulder/neck massages. I was blown away that once they'd seen me massaging another girl they'd all responded positively to my making them give me one of the 3 options in exchange.

Yes, I'm pretty decent with my hands, but other guys and my friends especially just had this "what the fuck" look on their faces as I massaged a stripper or she massaged me (or danced for me) while other girls would interrupt to ask me if they could be next, or to tell me they heard I was a masseuse.

Funnily enough, I'm about to go on the same trip again with that same group of guys (all married and most with kids) later this year and I plan to employ the same tactic to get as many free drinks/lap dances as I can since I don't really care to fuck a stripper. I expect continued entertainment and yours and Danny's posts have been very eye opening, probably a big reason I even employed this massage tactic.

The biggest point I learned is that you can't be a customer. Sure, you can spend a couple dollars here and there, but if you're even a small scale ATM, you're fucked.

My top 3 lines I heard from strippers coming up to me that night:

Quote:

1. Hi I hear you’re a masseuse.

2. Is there a line?

3. I hear you’re good with your hands.

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Captain Ahab I am curious if you ever tried the techniques and how it worked?

Tell us what happened.