[Sir Alan]

It sucks being the only red pill guy among your friends. It sucks when you try and tell them the truth and they don't want to hear it. It sucks when you see them making the same mistakes over and over again and getting screwed over by girls that aren't even all that. Then, when you get results, they hate. What a world we live in.

Anyone have a bunch of AFC friends?

[HiFlo]

Welcome to the lonely road of manhood.

Don't hang out with them anymore, & find some new friends.

You gotta do what you gotta do.

[Therapsid]

I disagree. If you have good friends, keep them. No matter how flawed they are.

As an adult man, it's harder to make good friends then it is to have same night lays.

I wish I were in your boat, but I'm stuck with women but no good male friends.

[Sir Alan]

Yeah, all of my friends are great guys. Most of them would be considered "betas" when it comes to girls but otherwise I'd say they have good heads on their shoulders. Maybe the next couple of years will carve them into men.

[Mon]

I'm with you all the way. It gets on my nerves to hear friends talking about the problems they have with their long-term women...issues I'd never put up with.

Even when they're doing their sneaky, half-ass "player" thing with the "side chick," I consider that weak also. I say, "train your women to be down with seducing other women for/with you." So when friends talk about being scared of getting caught even looking at another chick & all that jazz, it gets on my nerves.
The one thing I miss about my home town is that I hung out with a crew of Natural Pussy Slayers. Where I live now, it seems like a mass de-balling program is in full effect.

[bojangles]

I turned these friends over time into acquaintances, truth is they hold you back. They want what's "best for you" when in reality they want the playing field to be level, they don't want you to improve as a man and be better than them. You can still be friends with them but it's best for your own benefit to hang out with like minded individuals, these are the guys that will help you when you have issues that your friends will never have encountered and will give you the standard blue pill spiel. It's a difficult path to get rid of these guys but it can be done, maybe some of your friends will see the value in you increase and see the path of enlightenment and want to join you on it, but it's highly unlikely.

[sixsix]

You were once an average frustrated chump. Good that you're changing but you can't expect them to see the light at exactly the same moment as you did. Speaking from experience, you probably resent in them what you know is still in you. I didn't want to hang out with my old friends, until I had successfully rid myself of my inner beta.

Just put them on the back burner while you undergo this transition.

You can have multiple groups of friends. I have friends for partying and getting girls. They are the extravert bunch. In addition I have a group of friends, from way back, that I can just chill with and talk about philosophy and shit. Not every friend needs to be a complete mirror image of you.

Once you have changed and having kept some distance, you and your old friends will start to appreciate each other again. And then with a bit of cosmic luck in the mix, they will actually learn from you leading by example.

[BreezyFarts]

I know how you guys feel...

I try so hard to help offering the red pill to them and then forcing it down their throats after becoming so frustrated with their stupidity. It is so pathetic even the girls in my life are more accepting about the reality than these bros are!

[Sir Alan]

Truth is, I do have a lot of other friends that I do hang out with and most of them are of the "natural" variety. I'm glad I have these friends I can actually discuss gender dynamics with but they don't understand the full scope of my discussion considering they aren't red pill guys. To be honest, I was never a "beta". I was always considered an alpha within my group of friends and talking to girls came naturally considering I had my father around who taught me how to evolve my masculinity. I sometimes did put girls on pedestals but that was mainly reserved for high school. I knew some things just weren't right when it came to gender relations and I couldn't put my finger on it. So, I searched for answers. The end result was discovering game.

I've definitely come along way and while I didn't need a transformation on the scope of some other guys, I still feel that I am able to get a better grasp on things since learning about game, making me more into the alpha I was destined to be.

[Vicious]

We all have to go down this road when we start really getting game. You have to cut out all those people in your life that are energy leeches or whose neatly packaged view of the world you threaten to disrupt.

You might think of them as friends because you've done stuff together in the past. But the reality is that true friends propel you forward not try to hold you back. If these guys don't fit that bill you need to eject them from your life.

[Ego]

My oldest friend and I both got dumped by long timers withing the space of 5 months.

He got a new 'not as attractive or as smart as the last girlfriend' girlfriend about 2 weeks after he wanted to kill himself over the original broad.

He now considers me to be a fag and wasting my time because I refuse to spend a penny on a bitch and call them on their bullshit.

I have zero respect for him now, unfortunately we live together, lease is up in 4 months. I doubt I'll see him again after it.

It's a shame because we could have been an overpowered wingman super team.

[wi30]

Keep those friends for watching sports with or other guy activities. Don't go out at night with them because they won't understand why you don't want to be the guy leaning against the wall holding a warm beer.

[lush1]

I envy my mates - I wish I was satisfied with marrying literally the first girl that would have me. Life would be a lot simpler if I was this easily pleased.

As a well rounded man the pursuit of pussy should be just one factor of your life, good mates are far more important and imo will give you experiences that are far more fulfilling than sticking your cock in some hole. When I think of the greatest times in my life they almost involve my beta dickhead mates and not some girl. But then I aint had many girls.. Also your mates will still be around when your'e too old to pull and then you can join them in their betaness.

But if you're the sort of bloke who is with his friends 24/7 then that situation needs to change and you need to make time to be your own man, still finding room for your mates.

[space]

(01-03-2013 11:08 AM)Ego Wrote:  

My oldest friend and I both got dumped by long timers withing the space of 5 months.

He got a new 'not as attractive or as smart as the last girlfriend' girlfriend about 2 weeks after he wanted to kill himself over the original broad.

He now considers me to be a fag and wasting my time because I refuse to spend a penny on a bitch and call them on their bullshit.

I have zero respect for him now, unfortunately we live together, lease is up in 4 months. I doubt I'll see him again after it.

It's a shame because we could have been an overpowered wingman super team.

Something about close friends living together that destroys friendships. Happened to me too

[Sir Alan]

(01-03-2013 01:01 PM)lush1 Wrote:  

But if you're the sort of bloke who is with his friends 24/7

That ain't me.

[NFallin]

(01-03-2013 12:25 AM)Sir Alan Wrote:  

It sucks being the only red pill guy among your friends. It sucks when you try and tell them the truth and they don't want to hear it. It sucks when you see them making the same mistakes over and over again and getting screwed over by girls that aren't even all that. Then, when you get results, they hate. What a world we live in.

Anyone have a bunch of AFC friends?

I use facebook pretty much only to keep in contact with some high school friends that are scattered about the globe. We have a hidden group where we post stuff on whatever we're up to and thinking. Usually this might involve some friendly midget porn, or drunken escapade tales. However, some of the guys are considering settling down right now (early 20's).

Usually I will try and take some quality content or videos from either roosh or other red pillish blogs and just post it to give them tastes of different perspectives. Stuff ranging from feminist bullshit, to awesome man adventures, and the knockout videos. It's made some headway so far. I'm just feeding it little by little.....slowly jamming the knowledge in there....because when they finally see the light, it will all make sense.

I even tried to do this a bit with my little bro when I was home for the holidays by showing him the Roosh Program. All at once won't work unless they're looking for it. My advice is keep dropping man knowledge...little by little.

[Hombre de hielo]

Friends only serve to speak ill of you in your absence!