[Jason34]

In 2 weeks I'm going on a trip down to Florida for a couple days with a few friends. One of them is this girl who I really want to bang and get into a relationship with her. Thing is she has a bf and even if she didn't have a bf I still probably wouldn't know what to do. I'm very inexperienced.

About the girl, I've only been friends her for a few months and we're not really close friends. But we talk a few times a week. When I talk to her I usually tease her and make fun of her. I'm certain she's not attracted to me and she probably has no idea that I'm interested in her because I'm always being kind of a "jerk" to her. Naturally I have a very dull and boring personality so there's no way I could ever attract her by being normal.

In 2 weeks I'm going to be spending a lot of time with her and we'll probably be alone together for a while. So what can I do ? I'm thinking about writing down a bunch of stories and memorizing them so I can make it seem like I'm an interesting person. I'll try to memorize a bunch of jokes and tricks and stuff like that ?

What would you guys suggest ?

oh and I know all about oneitis. I know there are plenty of fish in the sea and I always have that in mind. I've played it really cool so far. But she's moving like 30 minutes away so if it doesn't happen now with her it never will. Cause I probably won't be seeing her anymore.

So guys please I really need your help. I'll spend hours on end studying and trying to prepare.

[LooTa]

Just get her drunk. If things are still not progressing, add rohypnol.

[FretDancer]

(12-12-2012 10:37 PM)Jason34 Wrote:  

In 2 weeks I'm going on a trip down to Florida for a couple days with a few friends. One of them is this girl who I really want to bang and get into a relationship with her. Thing is she has a bf and even if she didn't have a bf I still probably wouldn't know what to do. I'm very inexperienced.

About the girl, I've only been friends her for a few months and we're not really close friends. But we talk a few times a week. When I talk to her I usually tease her and make fun of her. I'm certain she's not attracted to me and she probably has no idea that I'm interested in her because I'm always being kind of a "jerk" to her. Naturally I have a very dull and boring personality so there's no way I could ever attract her by being normal.

In 2 weeks I'm going to be spending a lot of time with her and we'll probably be alone together for a while. So what can I do ? I'm thinking about writing down a bunch of stories and memorizing them so I can make it seem like I'm an interesting person. I'll try to memorize a bunch of jokes and tricks and stuff like that ?

What would you guys suggest ?

oh and I know all about oneitis. I know there are plenty of fish in the sea and I always have that in mind. I've played it really cool so far. But she's moving like 30 minutes away so if it doesn't happen now with her it never will. Cause I probably won't be seeing her anymore.

So guys please I really need your help. I'll spend hours on end studying and trying to prepare.

Man... First, memorizing jokes and tricks is lame and fake, you will reek of that and she will notice.

Just be a fun person, and when you are alone with her, get physical. First touch her lightly and if things get good go for the kiss. If you are in a very private area you could proceed to further bases and bang her if you got your logistics arranged.

If you are inexperienced, don't expect to bang her. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. You learn by doing and trying.

[Jason34]

(12-12-2012 10:55 PM)FretDancer Wrote:  

(12-12-2012 10:37 PM)Jason34 Wrote:  

In 2 weeks I'm going on a trip down to Florida for a couple days with a few friends. One of them is this girl who I really want to bang and get into a relationship with her. Thing is she has a bf and even if she didn't have a bf I still probably wouldn't know what to do. I'm very inexperienced.

About the girl, I've only been friends her for a few months and we're not really close friends. But we talk a few times a week. When I talk to her I usually tease her and make fun of her. I'm certain she's not attracted to me and she probably has no idea that I'm interested in her because I'm always being kind of a "jerk" to her. Naturally I have a very dull and boring personality so there's no way I could ever attract her by being normal.

In 2 weeks I'm going to be spending a lot of time with her and we'll probably be alone together for a while. So what can I do ? I'm thinking about writing down a bunch of stories and memorizing them so I can make it seem like I'm an interesting person. I'll try to memorize a bunch of jokes and tricks and stuff like that ?

What would you guys suggest ?

oh and I know all about oneitis. I know there are plenty of fish in the sea and I always have that in mind. I've played it really cool so far. But she's moving like 30 minutes away so if it doesn't happen now with her it never will. Cause I probably won't be seeing her anymore.

So guys please I really need your help. I'll spend hours on end studying and trying to prepare.

Man... First, memorizing jokes and tricks is lame and fake, you will reek of that and she will notice.

Just be a fun person, and when you are alone with her, get physical. First touch her lightly and if things get good go for the kiss. If you are in a very private area you could proceed to further bases and bang her if you got your logistics arranged.

If you are inexperienced, don't expect to bang her. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. You learn by doing and trying.

thanks for your advice but I just don't have the ability to be a fun person. I'm telling you I'm really boring. The only times I'm ever fun is when I plan to be and act very fake.

[Doulos2Game]

Sure buddy, we are going to tell you the ultimate secret to banging a girl in two weeks. This is really awesome because we haven't told anyone that is not a official member of the forum. Reading through all the threads, buying that stupid "Bang", "Day Bang", reading for multiple hours a day for weeks on end is actually useless. You can bang any girl 100% guarantee with this simple trick.

YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME, THERE ISN'T A FREAKING MAGIC POTION TO BANGING CHICKS. I AM SORRY, BUT PLEASE DO US ALL A FAVOR, READ, PUT IN THE HARD WORK TO BETTER YOURSELF, JUST LIKE MOSTLY EVERYONE ON THE FORUM HAS DONE.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SHORT CUTS IN GAME, YOU WILL NEVER SUCCEED. EVEN THE BEST POSSIBLE ADVICE WON'T GUARANTEE YOU WILL GET LAID. ROOSH AND OTHER VETERAN MEMBERS OF THIS WONDERFUL FORUM, HAVE PROVIDED US WITH THE MOST SKILLFUL TECHNIQUES OUT THERE. BUT THEY DIDN'T COME UP WITH THESE TECHINIQUES OVERNIGHT. IT WAS YEARS AND YEARS OF REJECTION, HARD WORK, SHITTY DATES, MULTIPLE NIGHTS WITH NO BANGS NOT EVEN A NUMBER. THE LEAST YOU CAN DO IS START READING THE WONDERFUL MATERIAL PROVIDED TO YOU.

NOW LET ME GIVE YOU SOME ADVICE:

1-If you are not a fun person, then don't be a fun person. No where does it say that only fun people get laid. NOWHERE.

2-You are already giving this girl alot of value. You are degrating yourself, this will not help you bang her at all in this trip. Your best bet is ignore her completely the first couple of days, but act really cool to everyone else. This will make her feel insecure in some type of way. If she responds to this great, if she doesn't well you know the deal.

3-If you get friend zoned, you can kiss that ass good bye.

4-Flirt with other girls there, but do it naturally. Since you already have rapport between each other, if she is into you she will start to feel jealousy.

5- This trip is not so you can get her to like you. It's too late for that. She either likes you or she doesn't already. This trip is to get her to show her emotions to you. You pick up on those emotions, isolate and escalate.

6- START READING THE DAM THREADS AND BUY THE BOOK..

PS. GOOD LUCK

[reino341]

Not going to happen. Scarcity mentality that you reek of is not attractive.

p.s. imo, don't learn night game from Roosh, there are better options like RSD which focus on natural game

[bojangles]

damn, you've got no chance because you're focused on this one chick..

[Alpha Hunter Zero]

You've been on the forum since July. You've had 6 months to read enough threads to help you out & put into practice what you could have learned. NOW a golden opportunity presents itself & all of a sudden you want to learn how to bang girls within a time frame of 2 weeks. I don't mean to burst your bubble but that bang is highly unlikely. Why you may ask? A few reasons. For starters you have a very low opinion of yourself. That in itself is a bang repellant. Girls can sense the negativity in your attitude and mindset. If you already think about yourself that way then in what way is she going to think about you. Next, you want to bang & get into a relationship with her. Placing her as high value, another bang repellant. Nothing has happened between you two & already you want to give her all the time in the world. Finally, she has a bf. I dont even need to explain that one. You can read all the material you want but that will only serve as an instruction manual. To gain true mastery you MUST practice.

[Stitch]

(blink, blink)

There's a lot wrong with this. Would be tempted to say troll except this is certainly possible. But the big ones to me:

Quote:

so I can make it seem like I'm an interesting person.

Don't bother to make it seem like you're an interesting person. Become an interesting person and then do what comes naturally. There's no shortcut. Certainly not one for two weeks.

Quote:

she's moving like 30 minutes away so if it doesn't happen now with her it never will.

If 30 minutes is a "never will" barrier, something else just seems really off. I'll travel 30 minutes to try lunch at a new restaurant.

Some people will disagree with me, but much of "game" is frankly marketing and sales. If you aren't a good product to begin with--and probably more importantly, if you believe you aren't a good product--you're sorta stuck from the beginning.

[RandalGraves]

(12-13-2012 05:17 AM)reino341 Wrote:  

Not going to happen. Scarcity mentality that you reek of is not attractive.

p.s. imo, don't learn night game from Roosh, there are better options like RSD which focus on natural game

RSD? Natural game? You trollin, brotha? Roosh came up with one of the greatest night openers of all time, and Bang lays out a good instruction guide for newbies to ease into night game, the best place to hone your skills.

To OP: you have two weeks. Go out every weekend night you can (Thurs-Sat) and run night game. You're not funny? Practice observational humor. Practice practice practice. Stupid shooting the shit. "That guy looks funny, do you think he's going out with that girl?" "Is this Kesha playing? I guess we should do tequila shots now?"

It can be that dumb, but you have to seem congruous and cool when you say it.

[Jason34]

(12-13-2012 12:56 AM)Doulos2Game Wrote:  

Sure buddy, we are going to tell you the ultimate secret to banging a girl in two weeks. This is really awesome because we haven't told anyone that is not a official member of the forum. Reading through all the threads, buying that stupid "Bang", "Day Bang", reading for multiple hours a day for weeks on end is actually useless. You can bang any girl 100% guarantee with this simple trick.

YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME, THERE ISN'T A FREAKING MAGIC POTION TO BANGING CHICKS. I AM SORRY, BUT PLEASE DO US ALL A FAVOR, READ, PUT IN THE HARD WORK TO BETTER YOURSELF, JUST LIKE MOSTLY EVERYONE ON THE FORUM HAS DONE.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SHORT CUTS IN GAME, YOU WILL NEVER SUCCEED. EVEN THE BEST POSSIBLE ADVICE WON'T GUARANTEE YOU WILL GET LAID. ROOSH AND OTHER VETERAN MEMBERS OF THIS WONDERFUL FORUM, HAVE PROVIDED US WITH THE MOST SKILLFUL TECHNIQUES OUT THERE. BUT THEY DIDN'T COME UP WITH THESE TECHINIQUES OVERNIGHT. IT WAS YEARS AND YEARS OF REJECTION, HARD WORK, SHITTY DATES, MULTIPLE NIGHTS WITH NO BANGS NOT EVEN A NUMBER. THE LEAST YOU CAN DO IS START READING THE WONDERFUL MATERIAL PROVIDED TO YOU.

NOW LET ME GIVE YOU SOME ADVICE:

1-If you are not a fun person, then don't be a fun person. No where does it say that only fun people get laid. NOWHERE.

2-You are already giving this girl alot of value. You are degrating yourself, this will not help you bang her at all in this trip. Your best bet is ignore her completely the first couple of days, but act really cool to everyone else. This will make her feel insecure in some type of way. If she responds to this great, if she doesn't well you know the deal.

3-If you get friend zoned, you can kiss that ass good bye.

4-Flirt with other girls there, but do it naturally. Since you already have rapport between each other, if she is into you she will start to feel jealousy.

5- This trip is not so you can get her to like you. It's too late for that. She either likes you or she doesn't already. This trip is to get her to show her emotions to you. You pick up on those emotions, isolate and escalate.

6- START READING THE DAM THREADS AND BUY THE BOOK..

PS. GOOD LUCK

I appreciate the tough love. I didn't really mean to ask for some kind of magic bullet formula that will allow me to bang her. Im willing to work and read hundreds of pages. The only reason I'm asking if this is possible is because Mystery says that his strategy takes like 5-10 hours from meet to bang. Why can't that work for me with this girl ?

[Jason34]

(12-13-2012 05:17 AM)reino341 Wrote:  

Not going to happen. Scarcity mentality that you reek of is not attractive.

p.s. imo, don't learn night game from Roosh, there are better options like RSD which focus on natural game

(12-13-2012 07:10 AM)bojangles Wrote:  

damn, you've got no chance because you're focused on this one chick..

I'll admit that I am pretty focused on her and I think about her a lot but believe me when I say it's all internal. I don't show it at all.

(12-13-2012 07:47 AM)Alpha Hunter Zero Wrote:  

You've been on the forum since July. You've had 6 months to read enough threads to help you out & put into practice what you could have learned. NOW a golden opportunity presents itself & all of a sudden you want to learn how to bang girls within a time frame of 2 weeks. I don't mean to burst your bubble but that bang is highly unlikely. Why you may ask? A few reasons. For starters you have a very low opinion of yourself. That in itself is a bang repellant. Girls can sense the negativity in your attitude and mindset. If you already think about yourself that way then in what way is she going to think about you. Next, you want to bang & get into a relationship with her. Placing her as high value, another bang repellant. Nothing has happened between you two & already you want to give her all the time in the world. Finally, she has a bf. I dont even need to explain that one. You can read all the material you want but that will only serve as an instruction manual. To gain true mastery you MUST practice.

The reason I haven't spent much time learning on this site is because I have horrible ADD and concentration problems. And yes I do have a very negative opinion of myself but I consider it just being realistic. I learned enough about game from skimming this site and others to know better than to exude negativity around others, especially women. No one except for myself, family members, and people on message boards know about my negative opinions of myself. I don't show it at all.

(12-13-2012 08:47 AM)Stitch Wrote:  

(blink, blink)

There's a lot wrong with this. Would be tempted to say troll except this is certainly possible. But the big ones to me:

Quote:

so I can make it seem like I'm an interesting person.

Don't bother to make it seem like you're an interesting person. Become an interesting person and then do what comes naturally. There's no shortcut. Certainly not one for two weeks.

Quote:

she's moving like 30 minutes away so if it doesn't happen now with her it never will.

If 30 minutes is a "never will" barrier, something else just seems really off. I'll travel 30 minutes to try lunch at a new restaurant.

Some people will disagree with me, but much of "game" is frankly marketing and sales. If you aren't a good product to begin with--and probably more importantly, if you believe you aren't a good product--you're sorta stuck from the beginning.

becoming a more interesting person is a lot of easier said than done when you have the type of defective brain that I have.

(12-13-2012 08:54 AM)RandalGraves Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 05:17 AM)reino341 Wrote:  

Not going to happen. Scarcity mentality that you reek of is not attractive.

p.s. imo, don't learn night game from Roosh, there are better options like RSD which focus on natural game

RSD? Natural game? You trollin, brotha? Roosh came up with one of the greatest night openers of all time, and Bang lays out a good instruction guide for newbies to ease into night game, the best place to hone your skills.

To OP: you have two weeks. Go out every weekend night you can (Thurs-Sat) and run night game. You're not funny? Practice observational humor. Practice practice practice. Stupid shooting the shit. "That guy looks funny, do you think he's going out with that girl?" "Is this Kesha playing? I guess we should do tequila shots now?"

It can be that dumb, but you have to seem congruous and cool when you say it.

I can't really go out in the next two weeks but I'll still try to work observational humor. Thanks

[reino341]

Mystery. Strategy. OK, good luck bro.

Get more girls and stop being a pussy.

[Doulos2Game]

[thegmanifesto]

(12-13-2012 08:54 AM)RandalGraves Wrote:  

Roosh came up with one of the greatest night openers of all time, and Bang lays out a good instruction guide for newbies to ease into night game, the best place to hone your skills.

Which one?

[Matt3B]

Quote:

I'll admit that I am pretty focused on her and I think about her a lot but believe me when I say it's all internal. I don't show it at all.

Ah, that ol' chestnut. I'm sorry mate, but you do.

How many girls have you gamed successfully and fucked? I mean gone through the whole process since you've read about it and how to put it into practice? How many girls have you gamed and finger fucked or kissed?

The reason I ask is because this girl you're completely focused on. It sounds like you have feelings otherwise you wouldn't be making these rationalisation posts and investing so much time into finding out how to bang just this one girl. That's not going in your favour.

The other thing that will not work in your favour is if you lack experience in gaming girls which, from what I've read so far, I think you do lack in. There's 2 things here:

- She has a boyfriend and you will need solid game to get her to think about fucking you. If you lack experience, then I don't think you'll fare very well. Especially if you have feelings for her, you'll probably be careful not to overstep the boundary if she asks you not to out of respect. Just my opinion, but that's how I think it'll go.

- You've already met her and she's already made her mind up about you and what kind of guy you are and whether she's attracted to you or not. It's hard to change someone's perception of you just like that and you've told us you're sure she's not attracted to you. To suddenly change and start gaming her will have her questioning in a bad way why you've changed from what you were to what you become whilst trying to get in her pants. Again, just my opinion.

My advice is to forget about her. It sucks but I think you've lost this one. Maybe not focusing on her might make her interest levels rise a bit but you have to learn too much in too short a time AND put it into practice.

Start approaching girls as soon as possible before you go to stand any chance. You'll be surprised what a few decent approaches can do to you. You should definitely read up more on here and other blogs so that when this situation comes about again in the future, you'll lnow what to do and how to approach it instead of coming on here and asking how to do it.

Just my opinion mate, but you sound way too invested and I'd forget about it.

[Jason34]

(12-13-2012 12:56 AM)Doulos2Game Wrote:  

1-If you are not a fun person, then don't be a fun person. No where does it say that only fun people get laid. NOWHERE.

I hope you're right but unfortunately for me every single thing I've ever read or heard about Game says that women will only be attracted to you unless you're fun and exciting, unless you're very good looking, which I'm not.

(12-13-2012 08:33 PM)MattC Wrote:  

Quote:

I'll admit that I am pretty focused on her and I think about her a lot but believe me when I say it's all internal. I don't show it at all.

Ah, that ol' chestnut. I'm sorry mate, but you do.

How many girls have you gamed successfully and fucked? I mean gone through the whole process since you've read about it and how to put it into practice? How many girls have you gamed and finger fucked or kissed?

The reason I ask is because this girl you're completely focused on. It sounds like you have feelings otherwise you wouldn't be making these rationalisation posts and investing so much time into finding out how to bang just this one girl. That's not going in your favour.

The other thing that will not work in your favour is if you lack experience in gaming girls which, from what I've read so far, I think you do lack in. There's 2 things here:

- She has a boyfriend and you will need solid game to get her to think about fucking you. If you lack experience, then I don't think you'll fare very well. Especially if you have feelings for her, you'll probably be careful not to overstep the boundary if she asks you not to out of respect. Just my opinion, but that's how I think it'll go.

- You've already met her and she's already made her mind up about you and what kind of guy you are and whether she's attracted to you or not. It's hard to change someone's perception of you just like that and you've told us you're sure she's not attracted to you. To suddenly change and start gaming her will have her questioning in a bad way why you've changed from what you were to what you become whilst trying to get in her pants. Again, just my opinion.

My advice is to forget about her. It sucks but I think you've lost this one. Maybe not focusing on her might make her interest levels rise a bit but you have to learn too much in too short a time AND put it into practice.

Start approaching girls as soon as possible before you go to stand any chance. You'll be surprised what a few decent approaches can do to you. You should definitely read up more on here and other blogs so that when this situation comes about again in the future, you'll lnow what to do and how to approach it instead of coming on here and asking how to do it.

Just my opinion mate, but you sound way too invested and I'd forget about it.

I've never gamed a girl before. And I heard her relationship with her bf isn't that great. And I could be wrong about her not being attracted to me.




Anyway thanks everyone for all your advice, even though it's not what I wanted to hear. But I really can't stop thinking about this girl .So here's what my game plan is going to be for the next two weeks. I'm going to read Roosh's book, the mystery method, and one more book. I'm gonna watch a bunch of RSD videos. And I'm gonna spend a few hours every day on this site and some other forums.

Even if you guys think I have no chance I have to give it a shot. I don't think I have anything to lose. I'm at least gonna try and kiss her. I'll never tell her how I feel about her though, which is probably something I have would done in the past before I knew what Game was.

[RandalGraves]

GManifesto: "You girls look like you're having fun." and its variants.

Of course, I can't knock "you got a light?" That's why I said it's one of the greatest.

[SnakeEyes]

So you're going to spend your whole time studying sales techniques (which is what "game" is) and not practice them in the next two weeks. Lol planning is definitely not your strong suite. But, you do have confidence in your ability, which is a positive.

My recommendations. Attempt to get her no matter what. Why? Because failure is a powerful motivator and learning tool.

Oh, and stop talking shit about yourself. You've objectively identified your own weaknesses but you haven't mentioned a single way you will improve yourself.

PROBLEM
- "I'm ugly"

SOLUTION
- I work out at the gym and I'm fashionable


PROBELM
- "I can't stop thinking about this girl"

SOLUTION
- I stay busy at the gym, work, trying new restaurants, bars, and talking with friends


PROBELM
- I think about her all the time. But I don't show it.

SOLUTION
- you do show it regardless of what you think. Why? Because all your actions are a function of your thoughts. You haven't made a move yet because of your oneitus. That is showing it. You waste time thinking about her when you should be improving your looks, game, humor, making friends, etc. That is showing it.

Do you see your rationalization here? You're defending yourself here when everyone has a good guess of the truth without even meeting you.

You are your actions, not your thoughts.

[Jason34]

(12-13-2012 11:24 PM)SnakeEyes Wrote:  

So you're going to spend your whole time studying sales techniques (which is what "game" is) and not practice them in the next two weeks. Lol planning is definitely not your strong suite. But, you do have confidence in your ability, which is a positive.

My recommendations. Attempt to get her no matter what. Why? Because failure is a powerful motivator and learning tool.

Oh, and stop talking shit about yourself. You've objectively identified your own weaknesses but you haven't mentioned a single way you will improve yourself.

PROBLEM
- "I'm ugly"

SOLUTION
- I work out at the gym and I'm fashionable


PROBELM
- "I can't stop thinking about this girl"

SOLUTION
- I stay busy at the gym, work, trying new restaurants, bars, and talking with friends


PROBELM
- I think about her all the time. But I don't show it.

SOLUTION
- you do show it regardless of what you think. Why? Because all your actions are a function of your thoughts. You haven't made a move yet because of your oneitus. That is showing it. You waste time thinking about her when you should be improving your looks, game, humor, making friends, etc. That is showing it.

Do you see your rationalization here? You're defending yourself here when everyone has a good guess of the truth without even meeting you.

You are your actions, not your thoughts.

from a logistical point of view going out and practicing would be very difficult for me to accomplish right now. I have a ton of weaknesses and I have been working to improve them. The only one I haven't really been working on is game. Thanks for your help though. I know there's more weaknesses I could be working on and I'll work even harder on them.

[SnakeEyes]

Why is it logistically hard to go out?

Everyone is saying to go out because experience is the ultimate education tool. There isn't a replacement for it. A lifetime of RSD videos wont mask inexperience. Remembering what RSD says at every moment is asking a lot of your brain, but you WILL remember an experience. Experience is king and grinding in the real world is a trait successful people have

Here's a funny quote from a UFC fighter who was being criticized by a punk kid who wouldn't get in the ring.

"you're like an expert swimmer who's never been in the water"

[bojangles]

wheres the update?