[soup]

Two of the big deciding factors in whether or not to direct your game at a girl. I find that they often butt heads.

There are times when I force myself to go for a notch, with a girl that doesn't pass the boner test, just to boost my numbers. This may seem try-hard, but it has actually helped my confidence/game in the long-run. Not to gloat, but how many guys in the world can say they've banged 32 new girls in one year? If I feel whacked out, I remind myself of where I'm coming from with this. So, notches can be good for game.

Also, the boner test can be affected by your mood etc. Like, maybe your cat died and you don't feel attracted to girls at that time. But, like any other practice, if you don't use it, game can atrophy.

On the other side of the argument is only listening to your boner. I think you have to have supreme self-confidence to do this and feel good in general. In one sense, if you are only attracted to really hot girls and you take your boner seriously, you might be motivated to change everything in your life to make it most likely that you will land some hi-quality ass.

So, my verdict is that unless you are already banging hot girls on a regular basis, you can't just trust your boner test to have a rewarding game.

Boner test is for guys who are at higher level of game. If you are newbie/intermediate, I think it's better to game for the notch with the hope that the experience and confidence you get with bedding lots of girls will help you build towards hotter girls.

[HiFlo]

good call. a couple weeks ago I was so fucked up on x and pepsi and alcohol and ended up screwing some very homely saggy titty 55 year old. scary thoughts. her pussy lips hung down like 2 inches. I cringe when I think back to this. Im cringing right now. I try to forget. I can't.

Unless you're autistic, you know what a hot girl looks like. You know what social validation is. You WANT to parade her around to show her off. Use your damn head folks.

Otherwise, have sex then forget.

[Enigma]

How do you fuck a girl without a boner?

[soup]

(12-07-2012 10:39 PM)Enigma Wrote:  

How do you fuck a girl without a boner?

Mental gymnastics. You've never been with a girl that you weren't dick-over-head attracted to?

[Moma]

I can't go for a notch unless she passes the test. It's nothing to do with ego, Mr Happy won't show up unless the results come in under green.

[soup]

(12-07-2012 11:03 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I can't go for a notch unless she passes the test. It's nothing to do with ego, Mr Happy won't show up unless the results come in under green.

If you've spent any time in an LTR, there's a good chance that you've had to think about other girls in order to get it up. It's the same thing here.

[soup]

(12-07-2012 11:03 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I can't go for a notch unless she passes the test. It's nothing to do with ego, Mr Happy won't show up unless the results come in under green.

If you've spent any time in an LTR, I'd bet there's a good chance that you've had to think about other girls in order to get it up. It's the same thing here.

[Enigma]

(12-07-2012 10:42 PM)soup Wrote:  

(12-07-2012 10:39 PM)Enigma Wrote:  

How do you fuck a girl without a boner?

Mental gymnastics. You've never been with a girl that you weren't dick-over-head attracted to?

Have I ever fucked a girl that didn't make my dick hard? Honestly, no.

I'm not hating though and I see what you're trying to say about lowering your standards for a higher lay count. At some point I personally have to draw the line though.

[Moma]

(12-07-2012 11:12 PM)soup Wrote:  

(12-07-2012 11:03 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I can't go for a notch unless she passes the test. It's nothing to do with ego, Mr Happy won't show up unless the results come in under green.

If you've spent any time in an LTR, there's a good chance that you've had to think about other girls in order to get it up. It's the same thing here.

I have been in a few LTRs and I could get it up. We would do role playing to spice it up a bit. Obviously there is nothing better than some strange but I tend to LTR lizards that I like physically AND mentally...

[soup]

If you can masturbate without porn, or even with porn, that's proof that you get yourself hard regardless of whether or not you are in the real presence of a hot girl.

In my case, it's not usually that much work that's needed.

I'm just trying to figure out how to prioritize my time, and to how to not sell myself short while simultaneously being realistic about my options at any given moment.

[OGNorCal707]

I'm with Moma on this one, if I'm not attracted to a chick and my dick doesn't get hard for her, than we are not having sex. Usually if my standards drop it's some combination of being really drunk (liquor goggles) and being on a long dry spell. Combine those two factors and I could end up fucking a 5 (which I've only done once BTW ), but normally I end up fucking 6's and 7's.

Here is my issue, do you go for the "low hanging fruit" the easy girls to fuck, basically "the 6's" in my situation, or do you go for the hotter chicks, 8+....

Recently I haven't been gaming much, but when I do go out, I've pretty much only been going after the hotter girls in the bars 8+, but my results have been pitiful. I have been getting interest, kino, good long conversations, phone #s, occassionally make-outs, but haven't been able to close. Since my dry spell continues, I need to lower my standards, but I just feel like I've gotten my fill of 6-7 range chicks, and want to really fuck women I am very attracted to.

Eventually, I'll break down and fuck a 6 if need be... I see Soup's point about fucking less desirable chicks to maintain momentum. Momentum is a huge X factor that is hard to quantify or qualify, but plays a huge roll in a guys success at any given point in time.

On the flip side of that though, fucking uglier chicks can also hurt your inner game, if you come to believe that you can't do better. Also, if you live in a small town, women will judge you harshly if they see you taking home 5's, shit even if you are seen with 6's, and then try to step to 8's, it will hurt their perception of you.

(Sorry for the excess use of the 1-10 scale on this thread, while I do believe it can be toxic, it is still the best way for us to gauge a woman's attractiveness).

[soup]

I have a very successful player friend who said something really insightful about the club: "most guys go after the hot girl instead of trying to get laid." And, yes one of these guys might get her, but a lot of them are going home dick in hand. It's another night of not getting ass.

BTW, this guy gets all levels of girls from very hot girls to fatties.

[Moma]

(12-07-2012 11:28 PM)soup Wrote:  

If you can masturbate without porn, or even with porn, that's proof that you get yourself hard regardless of whether or not you are in the real presence of a hot girl.

In my case, it's not usually that much work that's needed.

I'm just trying to figure out how to prioritize my time, and to how to not sell myself short while simultaneously being realistic about my options at any given moment.

I see what you are saying but I am not understanding the porn reference. I can't get aroused by crap porn.

I think the problem is that a lot of guys may go for lizards that they THINK their friends will approve instead of ones that pass the boner test.
While it's not good to settle too low which I have done in the past to break the ice or get a nut off, it's not good to just go for the hottest lizard just to say one has gotten an 8.

I go by the boner test personally but I rule out really crap shags. I had a friend that was in the late 300s that wanted a stuffing and I reckon she would have passed the boner test in the dark. However, I didn't do it cos I would have to hand in my resignation.

[OGNorCal707]

(12-07-2012 11:54 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I had a friend that was in the late 300s that wanted a stuffing and I reckon she would have passed the boner test in the dark. However, I didn't do it cos I would have to hand in my resignation.

Wait, what? I'm sorry Moma I like your posts and use of language, but sometimes stuff gets lost in translation... Are you suggesting this chick was over 300 lbs?

[Moma]

(12-08-2012 12:36 AM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

(12-07-2012 11:54 PM)Moma Wrote:  

I had a friend that was in the late 300s that wanted a stuffing and I reckon she would have passed the boner test in the dark. However, I didn't do it cos I would have to hand in my resignation.

Wait, what? I'm sorry Moma I like your posts and use of language, but sometimes stuff gets lost in translation... Are you suggesting this chick was over 300 lbs?

Yup, well over 300, she looked like she was 280 though

[OGNorCal707]

Did she cruise around in a "mobility scooter"?

[soup]

Christ, that's too much!

I wasn't talking about fucking anything lower than a 5.

[Moma]

(12-08-2012 12:56 AM)soup Wrote:  

Christ, that's too much!

I wasn't talking about fucking anything lower than a 5.

The rating is strictly on a social scale and how we think others would feel about us. Boner test is base human nature, survival, it's about what our genes think are suitable to procreate with.
When we talk about rating scales, now we are talking about preferences.

Either she's suitable or not. Boner test operates on binary 0 for would not bang, 1 for would bang.

For instance, I would eat a bag of raw uncooked rice if I had to with rainwater.
However, given the choice, I would prefer a cooked bowl of rice with some kind of seasoned fowl or meat.

[20Nation]

It's all about the boner test. I'd have like 6 notches already in Cambodia if I didn't care if she turned me on. Instead I have 1, but I'm happy with that 1 because she was hella sexy. However, I can see how it could help keep you from getting too rusty while in a tougher place to pull girls.

[HiFlo]

for real guys, all you gotta do to get a boner from ANY one is to close your eyes and imagine yourself in a happy place.

with soup on this one 100% if it matters at all.

[blackglasses]

just get the notch. that is my motto. fuck any pussy that is going to make itself available especially at the early stages where i am. if you do fuck an ugly bitch just keep it on the low

[soup]

(12-08-2012 02:02 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-08-2012 12:56 AM)soup Wrote:  

Christ, that's too much!

I wasn't talking about fucking anything lower than a 5.

The rating is strictly on a social scale and how we think others would feel about us. Boner test is base human nature, survival, it's about what our genes think are suitable to procreate with.
When we talk about rating scales, now we are talking about preferences.

Either she's suitable or not. Boner test operates on binary 0 for would not bang, 1 for would bang.

For instance, I would eat a bag of raw uncooked rice if I had to with rainwater.
However, given the choice, I would prefer a cooked bowl of rice with some kind of seasoned fowl or meat.

for me, a 5 is a girl I would only fuck if I was drunk. Lower than that, I'd avoid.

[reino341]

ya, most of the time I regret not getting the notch, not the other way around. the boner test is not infallible.

[Angry Beaver]

(12-07-2012 11:48 PM)soup Wrote:  

I have a very successful player friend who said something really insightful about the club: "most guys go after the hot girl instead of trying to get laid." And, yes one of these guys might get her, but a lot of them are going home dick in hand. It's another night of not getting ass.

BTW, this guy gets all levels of girls from very hot girls to fatties.

"A beautiful mind" scene comes into mind, game theory.

But after reevaluating girls as notches my standards have dropped considerably and I'm not even bothered about it: if I have an opportunity with an exotic girl, a new flag, I say why not.

[Prowl]

Why would it boost anyones confidence to bang a girl who cant get you hard?

That would just depress me.