[Ethiopian_Volt]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=93510&...J3GpoZbtf8

http://www.californiality.com/2012/11/fr...anges.html


Free sex changes on the tax-payers dime regardless of immigration status !!! California is turning into a fucking joke.

[Katatonic]

What the Giants fans want, the Giants fans get.

[Tuthmosis]

(11-09-2012 10:18 PM)Ethiopian_Volt Wrote:  

California is turning into a fucking joke.

Don't judge the whole state of California by the crazy shit that San Francisco periodically does. They do a lot of stuff like this, like providing heroin addicts with clean needles and a place to shoot up. It's an odd place.

[Basil Ransom]

(11-09-2012 10:18 PM)Ethiopian_Volt Wrote:  

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=93510&...J3GpoZbtf8

http://www.californiality.com/2012/11/fr...anges.html


Free sex changes on the tax-payers dime regardless of immigration status !!! California is turning into a fucking joke.

Shitty post.

The operations are only for city employees, not city residents. Big difference. Though they're both dumb.

[Alpha Hunter Zero]

[BurnFirst]

Great so my tax money goes to pay to help weirdos try to trick me and other guys. I would punch one out in a heartbeat, vagina or no.

SF is my favorite city but shit like this is embarrassing.

[Hades]

Related note: I heard that Roger Ebert once dated a post op tranny. Food for thought.

[bacon]

shocking businesses in CALI are moving to other states in the wake of increasing tax hikes. anyone who thinks we need more government spending should have to defend shit like this

[oldnemesis]

(11-10-2012 01:17 PM)bacon Wrote:  

shocking businesses in CALI are moving to other states in the wake of increasing tax hikes.

Just curious whether you have the list of businesses which are moving? Or you're just speculating?

[bacon]

oldnem tax revenue has fallen 22% because business and rich people are leaving the state
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/...nges-by-22

[ColSpanker]

Does this mean MTF's will get maternity leave benefits? And can they get another operation to change back?

[Katatonic]

(11-10-2012 04:00 PM)bacon Wrote:  

oldnem tax revenue has fallen 22% because business and rich people are leaving the state
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/...nges-by-22

Stories like this are becoming common: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?sectio...id=8026874

Of course cities like San Francisco will always give exemptions to "trendy" companies like Twitter: http://sfappeal.com/news/2011/04/-want-m...s-sent.php

You look in the film industry too, where tax incentives in Louisiana, Georgia, and Mississippi are causing productions to flee California. Vancouver was already taking a lot of television jobs away from Los Angeles.

[oldnemesis]

(11-11-2012 12:26 PM)Katatonic Wrote:  

Stories like this are becoming common: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?sectio...id=8026874

Yeah, I see this kind of bullshit all the time, and so far every case I've seen was just an empty threat trying to get some preferences from the local government.

Just look on that article:

Carl's Jr. wants to move headquarters out of Calif. Tuesday, March 22, 2011

The article was printed 18 months ago, long enough to move out if they wanted. But apparently they didn't move anywhere.

I hope you see the difference between "businesses MOVING out of state" and "businesses THREATENING to move out of state". In most cases those threats are just empty, and nobody really believes them.

Quote:

You look in the film industry too, where tax incentives in Louisiana, Georgia, and Mississippi are causing productions to flee California.

How's the talent there? I wouldn't expect a lot of people to move from CA to any of those states. Sure you can fly the actors there, but you need a lot of skilled people as well, and no tax incentive would make me to move to somewhere like Louisiana.

The results? Probably the same as with IT industry. I know very well one IT company which decided to establish in OH instead of CA because of those tax preferences. Sure, they pay no taxes but they have huge problems with the staff. Not only there are much, much less skilled employees (and they're all employed, so you'd have to pay more), but they have trouble bringing the people in even paying the Silicon Valley $100/hr contract rates as nobody wants to go there. They're moving to San Mateo next year.

[Screwston]

It sounds like a weesh state.

[oldnemesis]

(11-10-2012 04:00 PM)bacon Wrote:  

oldnem tax revenue has fallen 22% because business and rich people are leaving the state
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/...nges-by-22

The more likely reason tax collections continue falling is that businesses and successful people are leaving California for the better tax rates available in more pro-business states.

Looks like pure speculation - not only it comes from the article author (and not the state officials), but even he isn't really sure about it.

Considering that he doesn't really talk about other obvious reasons such as people saving more/paying off debts and spending less (therefore less business revenue and less taxes), huge drops in housing prices (therefore less property taxes collected), and such obvious thing as unemployment (people receive no or less wages, so they pay much less state income tax), it is hard to see how his opinion can worth anything at all.