[Urban Renaissance Man]

As some of you know I live in the Marin County area of California, in the Bay area. While it's not necessarily what I would call ritzy, in a Beverly Hills kind of way, it's definitely expensive and has an expensive standard of living. In fact, it's probably amoung the top 3 most expensive counties to live in California. Anyway, I have always felt that this dynamic makes it hard to date and game women. Granted, if you find one you've found a gem, since she most likely has a great job, or a trust fund. However, the fact that it's so expensive it brings about conditions that aren't favorable to dating. I think more exclusive areas have fewer single women, since most can't afford to live there by themselves. Also, people tend to be older, since younger people also can't afford to live there generally. Plus, being a black man, an area populated heavily with well off white people makes for some challenges. Now, my question is, am I right about this, or is this just an excuse and a player should be able to achieve success no matter where he's at?

[thegmanifesto]

(11-02-2012 08:22 AM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  

As some of you know I live in the Marin County area of California, in the Bay area. While it's not necessarily what I would call ritzy, in a Beverly Hills kind of way, it's definitely expensive and has an expensive standard of living. In fact, it's probably amoung the top 3 most expensive counties to live in California. Anyway, I have always felt that this dynamic makes it hard to date and game women. Granted, if you find one you've found a gem, since she most likely has a great job, or a trust fund. However, the fact that it's so expensive it brings about conditions that aren't favorable to dating. I think more exclusive areas have fewer single women, since most can't afford to live there by themselves. Also, people tend to be older, since younger people also can't afford to live there generally. Plus, being a black man, an area populated heavily with well off white people makes for some challenges. Now, my question is, am I right about this, or is this just an excuse and a player should be able to achieve success no matter where he's at?

Why not just move to SF?

Or do all your swooping in SF?

Problem solved.

[Urban Renaissance Man]

Well, in my case it's lack of familiarity with the city, the terrible driving and parking logistics, not wanting to drive 17 miles back home after drinking, coupled with a crazy work schedule. Also, I'm aware I can go elsewhere. He'll, I can go to Thailand if just going somewhere else is the answer. I'm speaking specifically if loving in a more expensive region cuts down on swooping percentages and if that should be expected.

[thegmanifesto]

(11-02-2012 09:36 AM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  

Well, in my case it's lack of familiarity with the city, the terrible driving and parking logistics, not wanting to drive 17 miles back home after drinking, coupled with a crazy work schedule. Also, I'm aware I can go elsewhere. He'll, I can go to Thailand if just going somewhere else is the answer. I'm speaking specifically if loving in a more expensive region cuts down on swooping percentages and if that should be expected.

Gotcha.

I have swooped mass girls from Marin and have tons of good friends from Marin, however I have never been swooping there.

The girls I have swooped from there were all in Southern California, College days, or SF.

I don't think it is necessarily a "expensive region" issue you have, more of a "suburban" issue.

Areas like Marin seem better to raise families that for single people.

I would think the "expense" factor as a bonus. More high quality/ high end girls from good families.

And Marin does have money and fly girls.

I am sure Giovanny could weigh in on this, he lives somewhere in the bay, I believe.

[Giovonny]

I don't think "exclusivity" or big money is the problem. I'm sure Game is alive and well in Beverly Hills, Manhattan, Miami Beach, the Hamptons, and St. Tropez.

The important thing is how well you fit into these environments. Do the people welcome you, accept you, and invite you to join their lifestyle? Do you have enough cash to play in that sandbox? Is your look, style, and vibe desired in that environment? Does your style of game work effectively in that environment?

These are the important questions.

Some people have the money, experience, social circles, and connections to successfully navigate these areas, some people don't.

I see multiple issues here..

1) Not alot of targets. Marin is very suburban and family oriented, its not a great place for singles.

2) Lack of nightlife. There are very few good clubs and bars

3)You work alot. The best playboys I know in Marin are trust fund babies. They don't have to work. They wake up, turn on CNBC, check on some investments, work out, and then take girls out out on their boats.

4) Marin girls are not looking for a guy like you. Their ideal guy is a rich, white guy.

I think you are fighting an uphill battle. You could find a better fishbowl.

You should move to SF.

What do you think???

There are ways to counter act these things if you want to discuss that as well.

[Urban Renaissance Man]

(11-02-2012 01:11 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I don't think "exclusivity" or big money is the problem. I'm sure Game is alive and well in Beverly Hills, Manhattan, Miami Beach, the Hamptons, and St. Tropez.

The important thing is how well you fit into these environments. Do the people welcome you, accept you, and invite you to join their lifestyle? Do you have enough cash to play in that sandbox? Is your look, style, and vibe desired in that environment? Does your style of game work effectively in that environment?

These are the important questions.

Some people have the money, experience, social circles, and connections to successfully navigate these areas, some people don't.

I see multiple issues here..

1) Not alot of targets. Marin is very suburban and family oriented, its not a great place for singles.

2) Lack of nightlife. There are very few good clubs and bars

3)You work alot. The best playboys I know in Marin are trust fund babies. They don't have to work. They wake up, turn on CNBC, check on some investments, work out, and then take girls out out on their boats.

4) Marin girls are not looking for a guy like you. Their ideal guy is a rich, white guy.

I think you are fighting an uphill battle. You could find a better fishbowl.

You should move to SF.

What do you think???

There are ways to counter act these things if you want to discuss that as well.

I would definitely like to discuss counteracting these problematic issues. I have to agree that the battle is uphill, due to all the reasons you mentioned. The thing is Marin is literally the most beautiful place I've ever lived! I hate the idea of leaving such a beautiful and low crime area! However, my fishbowl definitely needs improving!

[Beyond Borders]

Why not focus on cougar game?

[OkStudies]

(11-02-2012 04:25 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  

I have to agree that the battle is uphill, due to all the reasons you mentioned. The thing is Marin is literally the most beautiful place I've ever lived! I hate the idea of leaving such a beautiful and low crime area! However, my fishbowl definitely needs improving!

You must have money (or at least a good job) being *able* to live in Marin. If I were you, I'd stay in SF for the weekend (get a hotel room) and live in Marin during the week. Best of both worlds. Problem solved.

[OkStudies]

(11-02-2012 01:11 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

4) Marin girls are not looking for a guy like you. Their ideal guy is a rich, white guy.

I think you are fighting an uphill battle. You could find a better fishbowl.

You should move to SF.

What do you think???

There are ways to counter act these things if you want to discuss that as well.

The law of "supply and demand" would seem to contradict this. There are few black dudes in Marin so demand for them would go up. While (rich) white guys are a dime a dozen. This effect is similar to what I experienced in Pleasanton (rich east bay suburb).

However, one would think Marin would'nt exactly be a "first" choice for finding women. Granted it has beautiful weather, but it has an extremely small population (less than 300,000). Why be pre-occupied with gaming there? There are much better destinations in the Bay for that. Like of course SF but also places like Walnut Creek, Pleasanton, Berkeley etc.

[Urban Renaissance Man]

(11-03-2012 04:00 AM)OkStudies Wrote:  

(11-02-2012 01:11 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

4) Marin girls are not looking for a guy like you. Their ideal guy is a rich, white guy.

I think you are fighting an uphill battle. You could find a better fishbowl.

You should move to SF.

What do you think???

There are ways to counter act these things if you want to discuss that as well.

The law of "supply and demand" would seem to contradict this. There are few black dudes in Marin so demand for them would go up. While (rich) white guys are a dime a dozen. This effect is similar to what I experienced in Pleasanton (rich east bay suburb).

However, one would think Marin would'nt exactly be a "first" choice for finding women. Granted it has beautiful weather, but it has an extremely small population (less than 300,000). Why be pre-occupied with gaming there? There are much better destinations in the Bay for that. Like of course SF but also places like Walnut Creek, Pleasanton, Berkeley etc.

My preoccupation for gaming here wound be due to the fact I live here. Much of my gaming is day game and happy hour situations. I'm naturally in my home area during these times. I have noticed the difficulty of gaming here versus spots that would be considered undesirable, such as even Stockton or Bakersfield! It's far easier to pick up women there. And strangely, those are areas that are seen as less racially tolerant, and frown on interracial dating a bit. I was just wondering if difficulty in Marin can be connected to exclusivity.

[OkStudies]

[quote] (11-03-2012 06:15 AM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  

[quote='OkStudies' pid='300141' dateline='1351933223']
[quote='Giovonny' pid='299653' dateline='1351879865']

My preoccupation for gaming here wound be due to the fact I live here. Much of my gaming is day game and happy hour situations. I'm naturally in my home area during these times. I have noticed the difficulty of gaming here versus spots that would be considered undesirable, such as even Stockton or Bakersfield! It's far easier to pick up women there. And strangely, those are areas that are seen as less racially tolerant, and frown on interracial dating a bit. I was just wondering if difficulty in Marin can be connected to exclusivity.[/quote]

Well if I was having trouble in an area, I would either just deal with it and find ways to mitigate it or go somewhere else. Why complain or over-analyze it dude? Again, Marin county isn't even in my top 20 places to game chicks in the Bay. If your not pulling much ass there it's no big deal and probably not your fault.

Remember, a real man adjusts his environment to himself, he doesn't adjust to his environment.

p.s. Your right about the discrepancy between the "perceptions" of cities and actual reality. Many places would surprise you to find racist people as opposed to those not popularly associated with intolerance/racism.

[Urban Renaissance Man]

(11-03-2012 06:40 AM)OkStudies Wrote:  

[quote] (11-03-2012 06:15 AM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  

[quote='Giovonny' pid='299653' dateline='1351879865']

My preoccupation for gaming here wound be due to the fact I live here. Much of my gaming is day game and happy hour situations. I'm naturally in my home area during these times. I have noticed the difficulty of gaming here versus spots that would be considered undesirable, such as even Stockton or Bakersfield! It's far easier to pick up women there. And strangely, those are areas that are seen as less racially tolerant, and frown on interracial dating a bit. I was just wondering if difficulty in Marin can be connected to exclusivity.

Well if I was having trouble in an area, I would either just deal with it and find ways to mitigate it or go somewhere else. Why complain or over-analyze it dude? Again, Marin county isn't even in my top 20 places to game chicks in the Bay. If your not pulling much ass there it's no big deal and probably not your fault.

Remember, a real man adjusts his environment to himself, he doesn't adjust to his environment.

p.s. Your right about the discrepancy between the "perceptions" of cities and actual reality. Many places would surprise you to find racist people as opposed to those not popularly associated with intolerance/racism.

I didn't actually make the post to complain. I made it to get peoples opinion on whether or not living in an expensive region can decrease a person's chance of gaming success. 

As a black man I can honestly say that I've gotten more white women in, say, Taft, an area of California with historically a Klan presents, than I have been Marin County that is supposedly extremely liberal!

[Giovonny]

(11-02-2012 01:11 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

4) Marin girls are not looking for a guy like you. Their ideal guy is a rich, white guy.

(11-03-2012 04:00 AM)OkStudies Wrote:  

The law of "supply and demand" would seem to contradict this. There are few black dudes in Marin so demand for them would go up. While (rich) white guys are a dime a dozen.

Great point. This is exactly what I was talking about when I said..

(11-02-2012 01:11 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

There are ways to counter act these things if you want to discuss that as well.

URM,

How are you presenting yourself? Are you presenting yourself as hard working professional, who is working a corporate 9-5?

Or,

Are you presenting yourself as a more artistic, mysterious, new agey type of character?

Or, maybe something in between?

My point is this..

Marin girls often marry a rich white guy, but they are very open to fooling around with men of other races. Some even prefer to date other races during certain periods of their lives. But, when they date outside their race, what type of guy do they go for???

In my experience, I have seen that many times they don't go for the black/brown guy who is trying to fit in to their white world view. They go for the black/brown guy who has his own identity and worldview. The guy who is a little different, but still classy, respectful, and charming to be around.

Dont present yourself as just another corporate guy. Don't project the same attitudes, perspectives, and behaviors that the average Marin guy does. When you do that, you are essentially the same as all the other marin white guys except that you have a really good tan!

Does that make sense?

Be different. Isn't that what Marin girls want? An "eclectic", "worldly", and "cultural" experience! Don't be the black guy trying to fit into the typical marin world view, be the black guy who teaches the marin girls something new about the world!

They want something different. They want something unique. As you know, they are very new agey. Being a little different might make them curious about you.

Im not saying that you have to walk around marin with dreadlocks. (actually, thats not a bad idea) (a socially conscious rapper would be ok too) (a black man with island or reggae style would work well up there)

Anyways, I'm just saying don't be like everyone else, express your individuality. Individuality is respected and admired up there. Use that to your advantage. I think being a little different would work better then trying to fit in too much.

Those girls will likely marry a white hedge fund guy but they will still bang you if you present yourself in an attractive way. In alot of ways you are one of their fantasies. They want to experience a black man, just not a boring one. They want an exciting, passionate one. Be their "dark fantasy" haha. Don't be like everyone else, offer them an experience that they've never had.

Experiment with little differences in your style of dress, back story, and general presentation.

What do you think?

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Here is another thought..

This something that Nomad77 recently helped me with..

(10-29-2012 01:22 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

In Marketing there is a term: product market fit. It means does your product (you) fit the market you are trying to sell it in.

Are you giving the girls in Marin what they want? Does your product (you) match up with their needs and wants???

What do Marin girls want?

I'd say financial security, social status, etc.

But, they also want excitement, new age "enlightenment", culture, rich experiences, etc.

Are you giving them what they want? Are you presenting yourself in a way that suggests you can give them what they want. Make sure your product matches your target audience!

Also, it is interesting that as a Black man, you have done better in Taft, Stockton, and Bakersfield, as opposed to Marin. Actually, I'm not surprised. I have spent alot of time in those cities and have seen alot of inter racial dating. I think that sometimes white girls in these rural areas are more curious about black/brown guys. Its more of a novelty to them. They see many black/brown celebrities on tv and they want to experience it. Sometimes, growing up around slightly racist people actually makes them more curious. If you tell a young girl - "don't date blacks, you are not allowed to date blacks" - We all know that this will often make her more curious about dating a black dude. Especially, if she is exposed to pop culture.

Maybe your game is just better suited for a more working class area? Maybe your game is not a good fit in a rich area? Maybe, your suspicions are true... a rich area can hurt the game of certain men? It all depends how you fit in (or don't fit in)

Let me know what you think..

[Urban Renaissance Man]

(11-03-2012 03:03 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(11-02-2012 01:11 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

4) Marin girls are not looking for a guy like you. Their ideal guy is a rich, white guy.

(11-03-2012 04:00 AM)OkStudies Wrote:  

The law of "supply and demand" would seem to contradict this. There are few black dudes in Marin so demand for them would go up. While (rich) white guys are a dime a dozen.

Great point. This is exactly what I was talking about when I said..

(11-02-2012 01:11 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

There are ways to counter act these things if you want to discuss that as well.

URM,

How are you presenting yourself? Are you presenting yourself as hard working professional, who is working a corporate 9-5?

Or,

Are you presenting yourself as a more artistic, mysterious, new agey type of character?

Or, maybe something in between?

My point is this..

Marin girls often marry a rich white guy, but they are very open to fooling around with men of other races. Some even prefer to date other races during certain periods of their lives. But, when they date outside their race, what type of guy do they go for???

In my experience, I have seen that many times they don't go for the black/brown guy who is trying to fit in to their white world view. They go for the black/brown guy who has his own identity and worldview. The guy who is a little different, but still classy, respectful, and charming to be around.

Dont present yourself as just another corporate guy. Don't project the same attitudes, perspectives, and behaviors that the average Marin guy does. When you do that, you are essentially the same as all the other marin white guys except that you have a really good tan!

Does that make sense?

Be different. Isn't that what Marin girls want? An "eclectic", "worldly", and "cultural" experience! Don't be the black guy trying to fit into the typical marin world view, be the black guy who teaches the marin girls something new about the world!

They want something different. They want something unique. As you know, they are very new agey. Being a little different might make them curious about you.

Im not saying that you have to walk around marin with dreadlocks. (actually, thats not a bad idea) (a socially conscious rapper would be ok too) (a black man with island or reggae style would work well up there)

Anyways, I'm just saying don't be like everyone else, express your individuality. Individuality is respected and admired up there. Use that to your advantage. I think being a little different would work better then trying to fit in too much.

Those girls will likely marry a white hedge fund guy but they will still bang you if you present yourself in an attractive way. In alot of ways you are one of their fantasies. They want to experience a black man, just not a boring one. They want an exciting, passionate one. Be their "dark fantasy" haha. Don't be like everyone else, offer them an experience that they've never had.

Experiment with little differences in your style of dress, back story, and general presentation.

What do you think?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here is another thought..

This something that Nomad77 recently helped me with..

(10-29-2012 01:22 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

In Marketing there is a term: product market fit. It means does your product (you) fit the market you are trying to sell it in.

Are you giving the girls in Marin what they want? Does your product (you) match up with their needs and wants???

What do Marin girls want?

I'd say financial security, social status, etc.

But, they also want excitement, new age "enlightenment", culture, rich experiences, etc.

Are you giving them what they want? Are you presenting yourself in a way that suggests you can give them what they want. Make sure your product matches your target audience!

Also, it is interesting that as a Black man, you have done better in Taft, Stockton, and Bakersfield, as opposed to Marin. Actually, I'm not surprised. I have spent alot of time in those cities and have seen alot of inter racial dating. I think that sometimes white girls in these rural areas are more curious about black/brown guys. Its more of a novelty to them. They see many black/brown celebrities on tv and they want to experience it. Sometimes, growing up around slightly racist people actually makes them more curious. If you tell a young girl - "don't date blacks, you are not allowed to date blacks" - We all know that this will often make her more curious about dating a black dude. Especially, if she is exposed to pop culture.

Maybe your game is just better suited for a more working class area? Maybe your game is not a good fit in a rich area? Maybe, your suspicions are true... a rich area can hurt the game of certain men? It all depends how you fit in (or don't fit in)

Let me know what you think..

First of all, I would just like to say that posts like yours is the reason why I am a member of this site! Insightful, accurate, relevant and helpful!

I will admit that I most likely do come across as trying to fit in, but that's mainly due to the fact that I was raised upper-middle-class. A $100,000 year household in the early eighties, and living in Rancho Cucamonga qualify as that I think. So it isn't necessarily trying to fit in, but who I actually am, which doesn't add to the mystery vibe. Of more concern is figuring out how to straddle the line between being an edgy black guy, with a dark, somewhat bad boy vibe and ghetto! Marin isn't so far away from Richmond and Oakland that the citizens do not understand what ghetto brings to the table. Plus I'm 39, and would look ridiculous sagging my skinny jeans! LOL.
Seriously, I don't like the idea of acting or appearing ghetto, scaring or offending the owner and 90% of the patrons in a bar or restaurant, just to attract the three girls who might have a black man fetish. On the other hand, sometimes you have to do what you have to do.

For the record, my original question wasn't race related. I was wondering how exclusivity affects men of all nationalities. It's a given that a black man will generally have a harder time in a mostly white area. But I was wondering if richer areas are harder to game in general. I definitely agree with you that areas that are generally more races seem to have easier women! LOL. I'm guessing partly because of the taboo, and partly because the girls in that area are generally on the lower social economic scale and don't have a trust fund for their daddy to take away! LOL

[Basil Ransom]

As for your original question, I say yes, but I don't think it's a matter of money per se. I've lived and macked in different areas of my city, and the 'cliquishness' of an area varies a lot, and can have a huge effect on your results. It's not so much a matter of money as it is living arrangements, how circles are formed, how solid those circles are, how open-minded people are, etc. Players thrive in houses built on sand. The weaker social bonds are, the weaker a girl's social network, the easier it is for the roving player to operate. It sounds like Marin is a lot slower and more mature, and less amenable to player plundering.

[iknowexactly]

I lived in Mill Valley, sharing a house. I think this is one of the wealthiest towns in the country, other areas of Marin are not as bad, but my subjective impression is the astronomical real estate costs poisons all social interaction to some degree.

It makes people need to make so much money just to live there!

It is dripping with money and the kids of money. There were incredible 5'10" 13 year old girls, these are UPPER class people, VERY concerned with making a LOT of money and you will be judged by your possible additive or subtractive value relative to that goal.

The young people's life path is necessarily mapped out so they can stay in that strata of society-- you can 't make a lot of missteps and stay there. You are a potential misstep. I had a graduate degree and was white but still felt badly outgunned there, just cause I was over 40 and didn't own a 800K house.

As you mention, there are way more amenable, more open working class and lower middle class places in California you can go. But Marin is exquisitely beautiful. 50% of the county is parkland, they can never fuck it up.

[Urban Renaissance Man]

(11-03-2012 06:21 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

As for your original question, I say yes, but I don't think it's a matter of money per se. I've lived and macked in different areas of my city, and the 'cliquishness' of an area varies a lot, and can have a huge effect on your results. It's not so much a matter of money as it is living arrangements, how circles are formed, how solid those circles are, how open-minded people are, etc. Players thrive in houses built on sand. The weaker social bonds are, the weaker a girl's social network, the easier it is for the roving player to operate. It sounds like Marin is a lot slower and more mature, and less amenable to player plundering.

I'm not sure if I'd call it mature but cliquish, definitely!

[Urban Renaissance Man]

(11-03-2012 10:39 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

I lived in Mill Valley, sharing a house. I think this is one of the wealthiest towns in the country, other areas of Marin are not as bad, but my subjective impression is the astronomical real estate costs poisons all social interaction to some degree.

It makes people need to make so much money just to live there!

It is dripping with money and the kids of money. There were incredible 5'10" 13 year old girls, these are UPPER class people, VERY concerned with making a LOT of money and you will be judged by your possible additive or subtractive value relative to that goal.

The young people's life path is necessarily mapped out so they can stay in that strata of society-- you can 't make a lot of missteps and stay there. You are a potential misstep. I had a graduate degree and was white but still felt badly outgunned there, just cause I was over 40 and didn't own a 800K house.

As you mention, there are way more amenable, more open working class and lower middle class places in California you can go. But Marin is exquisitely beautiful. 50% of the county is parkland, they can never fuck it up.

Mill Valley is literally one of the most beautiful towns I've ever seen in America. It looks like the town you'd see in a snow globe! Quite honestly, even the ghetto areas of Marin County, of which there are only two or three, are still somewhat nice. I think the secret to attracting women here is to either A, locate the black fetishists, or B, get with someone who has ties here before this area became expensive. Unfortunately that's generally the descendants of hippies. They're cool I guess, but generally not the prettiest.

[Urban Renaissance Man]

(11-03-2012 10:39 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

I lived in Mill Valley, sharing a house. I think this is one of the wealthiest towns in the country, other areas of Marin are not as bad, but my subjective impression is the astronomical real estate costs poisons all social interaction to some degree.

It makes people need to make so much money just to live there!

It is dripping with money and the kids of money. There were incredible 5'10" 13 year old girls, these are UPPER class people, VERY concerned with making a LOT of money and you will be judged by your possible additive or subtractive value relative to that goal.

The young people's life path is necessarily mapped out so they can stay in that strata of society-- you can 't make a lot of missteps and stay there. You are a potential misstep. I had a graduate degree and was white but still felt badly outgunned there, just cause I was over 40 and didn't own a 800K house.

As you mention, there are way more amenable, more open working class and lower middle class places in California you can go. But Marin is exquisitely beautiful. 50% of the county is parkland, they can never fuck it up.

And what is up with all these tall as girls??

[iknowexactly]

(11-03-2012 11:54 PM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  

And what is up with all these tall as girls??

Rich people are taller than others.

http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/ind...27748.html

Intuitive view-- rich guys get to pick super hot chicks who are taller than normal, who then have taller kids, who get taller mates.... ad nauseum

[HiFlo]

ADAPT ADAPT ADAPT OVERCOME

CHARLES DARWIN

[iknowexactly]

(11-04-2012 01:36 AM)HiFlo Wrote:  

ADAPT ADAPT ADAPT OVERCOME

CHARLES DARWIN

Wait, aren't you the guy who had a bad meth trip yesterday and wasted $300?

Maybe that's a survival characteristic-- you've got the balls to do insane shit; including maybe, getting a chick preggers.

[Urban Renaissance Man]

One thing that I can vouch for, living in an area that requires so much of your money just to live that it cuts into your clubbing money or the amount and type of clothing you can buy definitely hurts your game!

[delicioustacos]

No one is above you, and no one is beneath you. We are all just human beings.

Fuck "exclusive." No place in America is exclusive except prisons. You can't hang out there unless you've been popped for a felony. Everywhere else is just more rent or less rent. Eight bucks for a box of cheerios or ninety nine cents.

I'll tell you though, poor girls fuck more than rich girls fuck. The worse a girl has had it, the easier she gives up the pussy. There are exceptions. Especially in California. East coast rich girls have never seen an erect penis that didn't belong to their horse. There are some rich California girls who will fuck you as soon as look at you.

But not enough. Marin is probably a bad place to be. Santa Cruz is a bad place to be-- too many Lesbians. San Francisco is a bad place to be. The Asian girls are too Asian, the white girls are pains in the ass, the Mexican girls you never get a chance to talk. The black girls are waiting in line to visit their baby daddy in Santa Rosa.

Go South, young man. Come to L.A. Or go back to Rancho Cucamonga. There's pussy to be had there, although you have to live through a David Lynch nightmare to get it. But you make a mistake by living in an "exclusive" area to begin with. The thing they are trying to "exclude" = you.

[Giovonny]

(11-02-2012 08:22 AM)Urban Renaissance Man Wrote:  

My question is, am I right about this, or is this just an excuse and a player should be able to achieve success no matter where he's at?

After reading this thread, I think you're right, exclusive areas can often be harder for all the reasons mentioned in this thread. (financial pressure, higher standards, strong competition, lack of single girls in their 20's, etc)

Exclusive areas are tough fishbowls for many guys.

I would think about a wardrobe change/upgrade. You can really display a new aura about yourself when you step up your fashion game. You should go GQ all the way.

And, I want to share my philosophy on difficult fishbowls..

"I only need one"

This is what I tell myself when I'm in tough gaming situations. I only need one girl. I don't have to be Wilt Chamberlain. Looking at it like this motivates me to approach and chat up alot of girls because I know the next one could be the one that likes me.

You don't have to be the best player in Marin, you only need one. If you lose her, it only takes one to replace her. If you get to two, now you are really a player!

(11-04-2012 11:38 PM)delicioustacos Wrote:  

poor girls fuck more than rich girls fuck.

I have to agree.

Black guys can do well in the Bay but it can take some fine tuning.

Sadly, the best thing to do pussy wise is probably to move.

If you stay, step up the intensity and focus of your Marin Gaming Strategy and Techniques.