[thebassist]

[_GQ_]

Girl: "You forgot your water."

Beta chump: "It's okay, you can drink it."

[_GQ_]

Actually, I think the guy with the dog might have gotten somewhere with her. They cut that part off pretty quickly and she hadn't blown him off like all the others.

[ryanf]

I love how she is impolite, and then is trying to make these guys out as impolite even when it's just a reaction. Typical.

[thebassist]

(10-27-2012 04:21 PM)_GQ_ Wrote:  

Actually, I think the guy with the dog might have gotten somewhere with her. They cut that part off pretty quickly and she hadn't blown him off like all the others.

Possible.

But this definitely goes quite far in explaining the reputation of Russian girls as being cold or even rude in rejection. Even if they have no game, the men are bold as fuck.

I'm just imagining what would have occurred if this went down in the US. Half the shit that happened in the video probably would have resulted in the cops being called and multiple post-trauma therapy visits.

[HeyPete]

(10-27-2012 04:15 PM)thebassist Wrote:  

Eh, pretty harmless, nothing she will have to worry about in 10 years. By then, she'll be wondering where all the good men have gone.

[pozdnyshev]

(10-27-2012 04:19 PM)_GQ_ Wrote:  

Girl: "You forgot your water."

Beta chump: "It's okay, you can drink it."

No, this guy is definitely not a beta, or a chump. He was plowing like crazy, and once she blew him off, basically, you're not even worth for me going back to get my bottle of water. It's all in the voice and intonation. You can't judge a guy by the shitty subtitles.

[megatron]

Just like with Date Lab or anything else with an audience involved, there is real pressure on the part of the girl to up her bitch shield and standards, so as to not be thought of as anything less than fierce and amazing by her watchers. So this isn't the best proxy for reality but it'll have to do for now.

[HeyPete]

(10-27-2012 04:30 PM)ryanf Wrote:  

I love how she is impolite, and then is trying to make these guys out as impolite even when it's just a reaction. Typical.

Add to that, the fact she had the audacity to make this video.

"Oh, woe is me. Men hit on me."

It's attention whoring at its finest and smacks of being incredibly narcissistic.

[Way Cool Jr]

Very interesting, I'm now wondering if an indirect opener, followed by some rambling would have been better.

[OGNorCal707]

Shit I heard Russian dudes didn't approach and had no game, while I wouldn't say I saw any great displays of game, the guys approached fearlessly. Outside of a few select guys on this forum, it seems like American guys are way more timid and less bold, especially during the daytime. Also, I'd agree that she was the one who was being rude, there was the one guy who kept trying to touch her, but most of the other guys seemed pretty chill and friendly.

[megatron]

She's not nearly as hot as she thinks she is and there are tons of cuter Russian girls than her.

[megatron]

(10-27-2012 05:15 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Shit I heard Russian dudes didn't approach and had no game, while I wouldn't say I saw any great displays of game, the guys approached fearlessly. Outside of a few select guys on this forum, it seems like American guys are way more timid and less bold, especially during the daytime. Also, I'd agree that she was the one who was being rude, there was the one guy who kept trying to touch her, but most of the other guys seemed pretty chill and friendly.

Well, like Roissy said a few times, Russian men seem to employ Caveman Game: fearless, aggressive but impulsive and crude game. It yield a good success rate in the Russian bars and streets, but not so much here in the States.

[BIGINJAPAN]

I didn't know Russia had cowboys ? Maybe he was employing a PUA tactic

[Wool Suit]

Actually messaged her on VK after watching this last week, asking if it was on the level (hard to believe) or there was some amount of schadenfreude going on. No response yet...

[WesternCancer]

These guys have no concept of how the girl is feeling. They also get angry when she tells them to stop talking to her. No the guy at the mall didn't have good game he tried to get her to try on lingerie within a minute of meeting her. Even when they say "hi my name is ___" they're still not realizing that they have extreme interest in her while she has none absolutely. I give her props for calmly/nicely rejecting the guys. Shes not open to talk (such is the point of the video) and she says that. I'd rather be rejected like that than have a girl sit there while you talk to her, get her number then have her flake because she was too timid to say she wasn't interested in the first place.

[bachelor tax]

These guys are balls-out aggressive. I never see guys in the States attacking like this, especially in the day time. Day game is still very much underground in the U.S., I think.

With just a slight twist of the knob to a more indirect style, I think Russian guys would kill it here.

[TXH]

Great, great video. Reminds me of the classic David D lesson: put yourself in her shoes for a minute. What seems clever to a guy, probably seems clever to many guys, and so she has probably heard it a million times. "Bitch shields" are often about time management. She's had a lot of practice judging guys on their first impressions. If you want to stand out in her mind, just imagine what the average guy does with her, and do the opposite. Etc...

[megatron]

(10-27-2012 11:34 PM)bachelor tax Wrote:  

These guys are balls-out aggressive. I never see guys in the States attacking like this, especially in the day time. Day game is still very much underground in the U.S., I think.

With just a slight twist of the knob to a more indirect style, I think Russian guys would kill it here.

I agree, but they have one huge handicap that pretty much undermines their otherwise refreshingly aggressive approach style: their heavy Russian accents. These just aren't seen as sexy by American women. Quite the opposite, actually: they automatically think of Borat.

[Screwston]

Maybe a dick in her mouth wil work

[w00t]

These guys are not very smooth but they have some brass balls!
The fact that they approach in daytime is pretty respectable in itself. I have in my entire life witnessed less than half a dozen daytime approaches from other ppl and all of them were horrible.

I dont think she is being a bitch either, she is pretty classy about it.

[NoBalls]

I think she is fine the way she is rejecting the men.

A real man doesn't get angry if a woman rejects him. I actually think it's pretty rude for a guy to get angry if a girl rejects him on a cold approach. If a woman doesn't want to talk, let her be.

(Just my personal opinion)

[XXL]

her reactions are irrelevant cause she set it all up to prove some point. so her rudeness/coldness doesn't matter in that context.

the whole point of the video is to see how oblivious guys can be. like no attunement to girl's subjective experience whatsoever, blithely spouting their fucking bullshit, clearly thinking that they can just go up and pull simply because they have dick.

i completely agree with what TXH wrote. watching it i'm like.. what the fuck are they thinking?? grabbing a girl by her hand from behind saying "hi girlfriend" and escalating regardless?? or saying "maybe we can go to my place" right after she's like no no no no no really.. ??

[Rah]

My new opener: "Hi, are we acquainted?"

[Hades]

Reality is a social construction. For all we know normal Russian guys do not daygame and she was kicking out approach invitations to strangers.

So my guess is that her body language is not congruent with what she's saying. Most of these guys were clearly confused that she was being "unapproachable", when she might have been initiating eye contact. Not all men are bumbling retards.