[AlbertoDelMuerto]

To those who are obsessed with what I look like, here goes http://i50.tinypic.com/2le2xap.jpg

[germanico]

Luke: I dont believe it...

Yoda: That is why you fail.

[Giovonny]

You are getting shitty day game results because you have a shitty day game method. You are going direct but it seems to be out of desperation. You are going direct but you are not making the girl comfortable.. You are going direct but you are not projecting yourself as cooler or higher status then the girls. At this point, you'd be better off going indirect to casually build comfort with the girl. Going direct is not easy. Paul Janka makes it look easy because he is good looking and has practiced it so many times that he is very calm and doesn't project any neediness. When you do it, it seems a bit needy.

It's not just about indirect or direct. It's about your appearance, your vibe, the way in which you speak, the way you carry yourself. What you say is not as important as HOW you say it.

It's like you are interviewing these girls. That is not the impression you want. If they feel like you are interviewing them, they get scared. You have to make it seem like a casual conversation. Like you weren't even trying to talk to her, like it just happened spontaneously.

Before she will bang you, she first has to be comfortable around you and enjoy talking to you. She should be laughing, smiling, and asking you personal questions. This should be your goal right now. Making girls comfortable around you and making them comfortable speaking with you.

That is the first step.

(10-14-2012 09:25 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  

women don't like being asked too many questions, if I want to talk to her for 5-10 minutes I'd have to ask her more than a few questions and then make statements.

I used to believe this, but now I don't. We don't have to ask personal questions, in fact, we should not be asking personal questions. We should just be making general conversation. Statements about the environment around us, ramblings about the local culture, food, sports, fashion, the news, etc.

Have a conversation!!! Not an interview!!!

(10-14-2012 09:25 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  

if you go indirect on daygame there is a good chance of getting friend zoned.

Not true. Many of the best day gamers open indirectly.

She will only friend zone you if she is not attracted to you. She will become attracted to you or not based on your looks, your personality, and your conversation with her.

Study Roosh, study Paul Janka, study Krauser, study Simple Pickup. Find a style that works best for you. I will take a few years and hundreds of approaches to get really comfortable and good.

Good luck and keep working hard.

[AlbertoDelMuerto]

Great post Giovanny, but SimplePickup is a bunch of nerdy Asian boys, I don't give a hoot about their beta ass method. However, I will study Day Bang & David Wygant's Mastery series.

[_GQ_]

Shave your head, get muscles, and look like an MMA fighter.

[AlbertoDelMuerto]

(10-15-2012 03:21 PM)_GQ_ Wrote:  

Shave your head, get muscles, and look like an MMA fighter.

I thought about shaving my head, but winter is coming.

[XXL]

yeah.. it must be the hair, for sure.

[rudebwoy]

You look like a Brazilian, which I think is a good thing. I would shave and restyle your hair, other than that your zits don't look noticeable in that pic.

[AlbertoDelMuerto]

(10-15-2012 04:41 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

You look like a Brazilian, which I think is a good thing. I would shave and restyle your hair, other than that your zits don't look noticeable in that pic.

I have receding hairline, so going bald might actually be a good thing, but I might as well look ugly if I go bald.

[TXH]

Giovonny Wrote:

You are getting shitty day game results because you have a shitty day game method.

Thanks for getting to the point. Somehow I thought I'd try the Socratic method.

AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:

I thought about shaving my head, but winter is coming.

Seriously? RULE 744: DON'T BE A PUSSY.

[Screwston]

The hair and glasses gotta go.

[TheWolfHowls]

(10-12-2012 11:11 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  

OK so I've done over 100 day game/street game approaches and managed to get 6 numbers and 1 date only, and this is crap! Today I approached 10 sets,3-4 solo chicks and got turned down by them all.
I'm average looking, kinda short at 5'7, not very muscular, and got some zits on my face, I also wear glasses.

You should cut the hair and trim the beard. Def not a bad looking guy at all. Alot of these other guys give good advice.

Quote:

Me: Hey how are ya?
Her: I am fine. You
Me : I am alright
Me: So what are you doing on Halloween?
Her: Going to the beach in brighton.
Me: That's really nice, but the weather is gonna disappoint you
Her: It might be sunny you never know
Me:But it's still gonna be cold
Her: Maybe
Me: So are you Brazilian?
Her: Yes
Me: Ola Linda let's meet up sometime
Her: I'm sorry I have to go and runs away

(This was a dynamic set, she had a friend I did not engage)

As the other said, definitely focus on girls you're actually excited to talk to. Not the ones you feel you have to. That feeling is contageous. Its no surprise that the women physically appeal you the most during day game when you approach good will react the best because they can feel ur genuine attraction toward them.

Also i think for this conversation, you could've talked more about the Beach in Brighton to keep things going. It seemed a bit too interview like. BUT, sometimes if a girl doesn't show much interest....she might not give you much to work with, which is fine to cut your losses. Also remember the reward principle. If a girl isn't investing much, don't invest any further. No need to go get a number from a girl who's not willing to invest a little bit herself. She doesn't deserve it. Course naturally she won't invest as much as you but willing to continue the conversation and give you something to work with.

Quote:

Convo 2
Me: That's one big ass pizza slice you got there, so are you gonna eat it or just stare at it?
Her: Hey I don't speak english
Me: Sure you do, you are speaking it now
Her: LIttle bit, I'm italian
Me: You can definitely speak it
Her: Little bit
Me: Look behind, it's the American Pie Adam Sandler lookalike dude (She looks)
Me: Let's go over there (BFI) and I will show ya
Her: I don't know him
Me: I'm sure you've watched American Pie
Her: Yes
Me: You're cute by the way
Her: Thank You
Me: So let's meet up
Her: No, I can't
Me: C'mon, you know you want to meet me, your eyes are saying it
Her: No, thank you
Me: Alright then eat that big ass pizza and have fun

It seemed too cocky funny imo. I think you should've been more light hearted. You definitely could've gone more into her language and be playful with it.

Quote:

Don't tell me it's just the language barrier,because when I engage British women this is how it goes:

Me: Hey how ya doin
Her: Avoids...
Me: hey I asked you a question
Her: What
Me: How are ya
Her: Good (Walks off) or says leave me alone

Now honestly people how can I break through those shields?

I also tried going indirect even though it's not my style by asking them about David Blaine. Usually indirect often makes you think that you only want to be friends, and as a result they friend zone you.

I think the key is remember to have an upbeat, positive vibe and be light hearted. This wasn't direct at all. Direct would be conveying off that bat you're there in a non-platonic light "You're cute and i'm going to meet you" type of thing. I think indirect is fine as long as its nothing too ridiclous and clownish.

I would say the three main things:

1) Be more light hearted in the approach.
2) If she sees you coming toward her, have a warm smile.
3) Be more direct in the opening if you want to do direct.
4) Definitely focus on girls you want to actually to talk to, not ones for the sake of talking to.

[TheWolfHowls]

(10-13-2012 02:03 PM)XXL Wrote:  

LOL at "way too direct"..

what I'm reading here is not enough interest in the girl. IMO street is too busy place to be fooling around. to me it's more about honesty than 'games' aka knowing what type of girl you like, being comfortable talking to a girl about what is really up, not wasting your and her time if there is no future there. basically i'm firm believer of expressing interest and meaning it. a girl knows what's up either way, if not immediately then later when you switch from your aloof opener to something more direct that exposes your true intent.

for technical stuff feel free to check the THE ART OF TROUBLESHOOTING & SMOOTH DAYGAME links in my sig, maybe you will find something there.


PS. OP, you will probably get reponses with wide range of ways and methods, none of them is good/bad itself so just take what might be helpful and ignore the rest.

Absolutely! I'm a firm believer as well. She def knows whats up sooner or later. I say to not waste time, find out as soon as you can if she's open to talking further after she knows your into her.

[AlbertoDelMuerto]

(10-15-2012 08:04 PM)houston Wrote:  

The hair and glasses gotta go.

Glasses can't go, I already explained why!

[Screwston]

Read the face wash thread in Lifestyle.
Buzz your head or at least keep it short since you can see how thin it is
Get more stylish glasses if youre really to blind for contacts.
Use vaseline chapstick
Leave a goatee and shave everything else as soon as it starts growing. Your facial hair looks like shit except for the chin

Theres no way in hell youre getting top notch girls if you dont change that look. Youre young so try to look young. Post pictures of your clothes now.

By the way, were obsessed with how you look because thats a huge thing!

[XXL]

you look fine overall.

just emphasize your good parts and use them as your advantage like that. dude had thin hair with bald spot so he shaved it all. he had messy dark facial hair so he shaped it cool.

same with you. shape the goatee. shave the rest of facial hair since you got thin type of beard. deal with face skin/complexion. maybe try with differnet frames of glasses. your hair is ok but try to see how you look with bit longer/shorter hair. just experiment with final touches until you find your perfect match.

[The Fantasist]

Funk yourself up dude. You have poor foreign student written all over you. I'm not talking about spending money,just shave that whispey facial hair,gel your hair into something funkier,wear something less generic ( post a full body shot mate,it will help us get a better picture ). That's first.

Second ( I have no idea if you do this already ) smile,get a big fat smile and make eye contact with women on the street,hold it and then just say "hi" and smile. When they say hi back say "what you up to?" ( keep smiling ) and get chatting. Switch to "you're not from here are you,you dress too east European" laugh as you say it and proceed. Have a high energy,not clownish energy,but animated. Speak loudly. Be totally ballsy with her,be different. If you want to tell her you want to marry her after ten seconds tell her,if you want to tell her she is too ugly for you,
tell her. Importantly,release from outcome,just go out with the attitude that you want to talk to random people and bust on women. Take the piss out of the women you meet constantly.

I'm just saying what I do and what works for me.

I'm in London every month, if I have time I'll be happy to meet up for a chat and some day game when I'm next in town. Can't promise to improve you but you might pick up something from watching how I do it.

[reino341]

Don't get too hung up on your looks, there's room for improvement but obviously don't let any of these comments make you insecure in a way that you'd think that you absolutely need to do something about your looks in order to score pussy.

The hair makes you look a bit soft but that's about it.

[Screwston]

You look like an IRT right now like Vorkuta said. I'm not trying to talk shit but piss you off enough to make you change. Wait, maybe I am talking shit but it's in a good way.

[rudebwoy]

Alberto - I sent you a PM

[AlbertoDelMuerto]

(10-16-2012 10:48 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

Funk yourself up dude. You have poor foreign student written all over you. I'm not talking about spending money,just shave that whispey facial hair,gel your hair into something funkier,wear something less generic ( post a full body shot mate,it will help us get a better picture ). That's first.

Second ( I have no idea if you do this already ) smile,get a big fat smile and make eye contact with women on the street,hold it and then just say "hi" and smile. When they say hi back say "what you up to?" ( keep smiling ) and get chatting. Switch to "you're not from here are you,you dress too east European" laugh as you say it and proceed. Have a high energy,not clownish energy,but animated. Speak loudly. Be totally ballsy with her,be different. If you want to tell her you want to marry her after ten seconds tell her,if you want to tell her she is too ugly for you,
tell her. Importantly,release from outcome,just go out with the attitude that you want to talk to random people and bust on women. Take the piss out of the women you meet constantly.

I'm just saying what I do and what works for me.

I'm in London every month, if I have time I'll be happy to meet up for a chat and some day game when I'm next in town. Can't promise to improve you but you might pick up something from watching how I do it.

Actually gels are the reason why I started losing hair in the first place! I'm allergic to it. I'm gonna go with the military style haircut.

[AlbertoDelMuerto]

I've attached pictures of some of the clothings that I wear very frequently.. however, I have shitloads of more clothes, especially jeans, casual shirts and crew neck tees, and also 3 more jackets ( 2 of which are leather).I have a few more sports shoes like Karrimor and Fila, and also a Honey boot that I might as well throw away.
http://ul.to/4265yzjm

[The Fantasist]

(10-16-2012 09:21 PM)AlbertoDelMuerto Wrote:  

Actually gels are the reason why I started losing hair in the first place! I'm allergic to it. I'm gonna go with the military style haircut.

Explain.

You're losing hair through genetics and male pattern baldness not gel. If you lost some through gel it will grow back. You're thinning. Gel does not cause that.

[qazwsx]

2 problems with your basic appearance that you should solve immediately:

- acne (there were already suggestions in this thread to treat that)
- your beard (it looks bad, you should shave everyday)

This improvements are indispensable to give you a neater look.

[AlbertoDelMuerto]

Did a little bit of daygame yesterday, and got a number. I texted the chick today "Hey Natalia, it was nice meeting you yesterday", and she didn't reply! I worked out the possible reasons why:
1. She was seated, and I was standing
2. I lied to her about being a Imperial College undergrad businesss student, and she said there are no undergrad business subjects, I reassured her there are, but later on I googled and found out she was right.
3. Didn't kino escalate.

However, she still gave me some IOIs, she asked me my name, and of course when I asked for the number she gladly gave it. I am thinking of calling her tomorrow or the day after!