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Guys, You May Have to Lower your Freak Flag!
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Guys, You May Have to Lower your Freak Flag!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...bled=false



Ed Bagley, 45, of Kirkwood, Mo., faces 11 counts of abuse, including sex trafficking and conspiracy.

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Advocates for people who engage in rough but consensual sex say they fear an abuse case unfolding in Missouri ultimately could criminalize their lifestyle.

Ed Bagley faces a federal trial early next year on 11 counts of abuse against a woman authorities say he groomed to be his sex slave. Now prosecutors plan to present consensual, though violent, acts between Bagley and his own wife as evidence that Bagley has a history of sexually assaulting women.

The case will include evidence of "sadistic sexual assaults" committed by Bagley against his wife, Marilyn, prosecutors say.

"Marilyn Bagley's `consent' to the sexual assaults by Defendant Edward Bagley does not change whether the acts legally constitute assault or not. Pursuant to the Missouri state assault statute ... consent is not a defense to assault resulting in serious physical injury," prosecutors wrote in court documents filed last month.


For all of you BDSM fans out there, be careful! The prosecutors want to use consentual acts this guy committed on his own wife as evidence of assault against some bubblehead that was weak enough to allow herself to be tied up and gang-fucked. The tools that came over to participate and watch rolled over...

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Guys, You May Have to Lower your Freak Flag!

This reminds me of the village whore in my hometown whom let 3 dudes run a train on her. I guess two cocks was her limit, she did not enjoy THAT type of roughness and tried going to the cops saying she was assaulted and raped.

They almost persued it until dudes came out of the knooks and crannies to vouch that she was a mood good whore whom would fuck multiple dudes at a time or a night. Hell low key even some cops hit, my town was quite small. It all ended up bring dropped in the darkness of the night.

You will see more of this shit spring up. Vanilla girls are wanting to try this bondage stuff now because of 50 shades and True Blood.
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Quote: (10-01-2012 02:55 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

Kirkwood, Mo

There's the problem.

Stay out of Missouri. STL and KC are cool, but in between is all fucked up.

This case has been around for a while. The girl in question was a stripper at a spot in Fort Leonard Wood, MO. I went to college in STL and did some training at Fort Leonard Wood once. The strip joints in Missouri are essentially full on brothels staffed by meth addicts.

In fact, if memory serves, the girl was actually shot up with meth while she was tied up, and had to go to the hospital. I think it was the hospital people that got the cops involved in the first place.

Either way, Missouri is tweaker country. Watch out.

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We had a huge case here in NYC back in '96. A Columbia University grad student, Oliver Jovanovic, met a Barnard College trick on the internet, and ended up convicted of kidnapping, sexual abuse and assault and sentenced to 15 years in prison two years later. He did 20 months, and refused a plea deal that guaranteed he wouldn't serve any more time. He turned it down on principle, insisting this "attack" was consentual. His conviction was overturned on appeal, blowing a hole in the prosecution's attempted use of rape shield laws...

Deal Proposed For Defendant In Net Sex Case

By KATHERINE E. FINKELSTEIN

Published: November 22, 2000


Manhattan prosecutors have proposed a plea bargain with no further jail time for a Columbia University graduate student facing a new trial on charges that he kidnapped and sexually abused a woman he had met on the Internet, say the student's mother and others familiar with the negotiations.

In 1998, the student, Oliver Jovanovic, was convicted of kidnapping, sexually abusing and assaulting the woman and was sentenced to 15 years to life in prison. But the conviction was overturned last year when the Appellate Division of State Supreme Court in Manhattan ruled that the trial judge had erred in excluding certain evidence.

The retrial of Mr. Jovanovic, who complained bitterly during his first trial that he was the victim of overzealous prosecutors, is set to begin in March in State Supreme Court. The judge, William A. Wetzel, who was also the judge in the first trial, has given both sides until Dec. 13 to conclude any negotiations.

Sabina Jovanovic, the student's mother, said that the deal broached by prosecutors last month would require her son to plead guilty to some charge or charges, but that no details had been discussed. ''I understand that all that has been offered is a plea bargain for time served,'' she said.

Mrs. Jovanovic said her son, who was weeks away from a doctorate in microbiology when he was arrested in 1996, has made no decision on pursuing the offer. He served 20 months in prison before his release last December.

Mr. Jovanovic's lawyer, Paul F. Callan, said of plea negotiations, ''Oliver's position has been that as a matter of principle, he's not going to admit to something he didn't do.''

The Manhattan district attorney, Robert M. Morgenthau, would neither confirm nor deny that an offer had been discussed, nor would he discuss any other aspect of the case.

If prosecutors and Mr. Jovanovic agree to a deal that includes no additional prison time, it will amount to a remarkable turn in a case that has gained notoriety because Mr. Jovanovic met the woman on the Internet. The case raised questions about legal protections for rape victims and included allegations of prosecutorial overreaching.

At the 1998 trial, Mr. Jovanovic was convicted of a 20-hour attack on the woman, a 20-year-old student at Barnard College, someone he had come to know during regular, often explicit, conversations conducted over the Internet. Prosecutors alleged, and a jury agreed, that Mr. Jovanovic had tied the woman to the frame of a futon at his apartment, burned her with hot wax and sexually abused her with a nightstick.

From the time of his arrest, Mr. Jovanovic insisted that his encounter with the woman, while sadomasochistic, had nonetheless been consensual. During an often grueling cross-examination, Mr. Jovanovic's lawyer, Jack Litman, sought to undermine the woman's claims of physical injury and to show that she had willingly engaged in the encounter.


During that trial, Mr. Jovanovic's lawyers sought to introduce an e-mail exchange into evidence, arguing that the messages supported their claim of a consensual, nonviolent encounter. But Judge Wetzel refused to admit the messages, citing the state's rape shield laws, which are intended to protect victims from undue scrutiny of their pasts.

After Mr. Jovanovic was convicted and sentenced, his lawyer appealed Judge Wetzel's exclusion of the e-mail messages.

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Guys, You May Have to Lower your Freak Flag!

Someone here made a good point, maybe it was Athlone - gangbangs have a very high frequency of yielding false rape/assault allegations. There was the Hofstra hoe, some hoes in Britain... I can't imagine gangbangs being that common in comparison to your run of the mill sex/one night stands, or even as common as one man threesomes, yet they repeatedly crop up in rape allegations.

Getting intimate with another guy probably isn't the smartest idea... but I can't recall many, if any, rape allegations involving a conventional one man threesome.
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