[Ryan]

I'm reading a book called Subliminal and in there they cite a study which had men approach women on the street during the day and asking them out. The researchers had the men utter the same line the only difference being that one group gave a light touch while the other did not touch at all.
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Over the course of the day, the young men collected three dozen phone numbers (out of 240 approaches). When they didn't touch the women, they had a success rate of 10 percent; when they touched them, their success rate was 20 percent.

They also did a similar thing with servers and found that those who did a light touch received a higher tip.

Day Bang recommends never touching a girl during an approach. In the end I'll follow Roosh to the T.

I should say that in the street approach study the guys approaching were described as handsome and the study took place in France.

[IpsaScientiaPotestasEst]

(09-25-2012 11:12 PM)Ryan Wrote:  

I'm reading a book called Subliminal and in there they cite a study which had men approach women on the street during the day and asking them out. The researchers had the men utter the same line the only difference being that one group gave a light touch while the other did not touch at all.
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Over the course of the day, the young men collected three dozen phone numbers (out of 240 approaches). When they didn't touch the women, they had a success rate of 10 percent; when they touched them, their success rate was 20 percent.

They also did a similar thing with servers and found that those who did a light touch received a higher tip.

Day Bang recommends never touching a girl during an approach. In the end I'll follow Roosh to the T.

I should say that in the street approach study the guys approaching were described as handsome and the study took place in France.

I would say a light touch is maybe okay, but nothing too forward (or awkward) until you actually get into the conversation. Might touch/tap them to get their attention and thats it...and yes, it will change by where you are and what city you are in. But yeah, just a light touch.

The truth is, nowadays-a lot of people are really dying for social interaction on the inside. Just don't be a social retard, have your shit together and be presentable-and you'll be fine. That might sound like a lot but Sun Tzu said it best, when (something along the lines of) the battle is won or lost before it has even begun.

Im kinda skeptical on the server thing though. Maybe after he/she has engaged the table and already had them laughing/having a good time (and then anchors this with the touch, however hes already given them the great experience which is why he touched them-kinda beats the purpose of saying its the touch but who knows) I dunno, I'd just find it fucking weird if my server was touching me when I went out to eat-unless he was a chill/cool guy. Just my two cents. Interesting nonetheless though.

But yes, TOUCH TOUCH TOUCH! (but again NOT in a creepy manner, touch goes best with humor or sarcasm-DEPENDING on where you are).

[Vuzz]

But yes, TOUCH TOUCH TOUCH! (but again NOT in a creepy manner, touch goes best with humor or sarcasm-DEPENDING on where you are).
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I have real problems with touching sometimes. I met this girl a while back. Kinda cute, but she was really... tense. I wanted to touch her, to make contact. Conversation was nice, we had a few drinks, a few laughs and stories. She didn't give me a headache.

But I pussied out with the touch, I thought she might freak out, or break down, or something.

Anyone know any good ways/moves to touch girls? Something that's kinda natural, or fun?

I've only got 3 moves at my disposal now.
1)Grab her by the ass and pull her towards my crotch.
2)Cliched over the shoulder thing (a classic, though I usually don't bother with the yawn.)
3) Hold her hand and lead her to the bar. (Good way to gauge interest I find.)

Also, anyone got any tips for overcoming fear/ being a pussy and just going for the touch regardless?

[OregonToSoCal]

When interacting or on a date with a woman you should always be touching! Whenever I have a first date that falls flat I can almost always trace it back to not touching her much or at all. What sucks is sometimes logistics or circumstances serve to cock block this. I had a date last night at a brewery and the only place open to sit was a rectangular flat top table where we sat across from each other. The bar was jammed and no booths. I wasn't able to sit next to her and touching was mostly impossible.

[Fortis]

You'd have to be really "On" to pull off a touch without creeping a girl out. I think it really depends on how warm you appear.

[Built to Fade]

Touching the hip works great and I have a memorable approach from it.

My freshmen year of college there was HB9 in a class of about 200 people. We had assigned seats so I was out of luck sitting next to her and I tried after class many times but it never worked as everyone was leaving in a rush. One weekend I saw her at a party and made an approach as she was standing by a table waiting to play beer pong. When I walked up to her, I put my hand on her hip and started a convo. I wasn't drunk, it just felt natural and I wanted to touch her. I got her number and banged her the next weekend... Dated her for a few months too. She looks exactly like Valerie Kay the porn star.

Anyways, we were talking while dating and she mentioned my approach. I'll never forget what she said she liked the most. She said she loved it how I put my hand on her hip. I do it now when ever possible, preferably of it feels natural.

[Phoenix]

Touch.
Its one of the most effective screens there are. It gives you interest information that many girls will never disclose verbally or even via their eyes and body language.

If you want some extreme examples, goodlookingloser does daytime approaches where he grabs their hands on the opening.

[Cheetah]

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The researchers had the men utter the same line[..]

What was the line?

[Zucky]

(03-01-2015 06:23 PM)Vuzz Wrote:  

But yes, TOUCH TOUCH TOUCH! (but again NOT in a creepy manner, touch goes best with humor or sarcasm-DEPENDING on where you are).

I have real problems with touching sometimes. I met this girl a while back. Kinda cute, but she was really... tense. I wanted to touch her, to make contact. Conversation was nice, we had a few drinks, a few laughs and stories. She didn't give me a headache.

But I pussied out with the touch, I thought she might freak out, or break down, or something.

Anyone know any good ways/moves to touch girls? Something that's kinda natural, or fun?

I've only got 3 moves at my disposal now.
1)Grab her by the ass and pull her towards my crotch.
2)Cliched over the shoulder thing (a classic, though I usually don't bother with the yawn.)
3) Hold her hand and lead her to the bar. (Good way to gauge interest I find.)

Also, anyone got any tips for overcoming fear/ being a pussy and just going for the touch regardless?
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I've seen this mentioned a few and read through it. It confirmed some notions and ideas I had begun to grasp. Especially the inadvertent stuff.

http://www.vindicarlo.com/DiCarlo%20Esca...lo.com.pdf

If you are able to be a physical person in the proper manner, it is essentially an extension of your personal space. It's easier to invite people in, or for people to accept you into theirs. A lot of it is timing. Reciprocating touch is a good way to escalate things. As in taking everything she does one step further with your actions. This seems to be something natural for women, and if there is an attraction, they'll often initiate with a light brush/touch as they walk by or in conversation. Then expect you to take it from there. In the past, I lacked confidence and acted shy around girls. I would be aware of their attraction and actions towards me, but didn't know how to go from initial attraction to something more. I definitely missed opportunities by being too conservative physically and in general. I still have some issues with this, but game has definitely got me on the right track. I'm finding theoretical knowledge can only get you so far before you must apply your theory to practical application. Trial and error is the only way.

[MdWanderer]

(03-03-2015 04:54 PM)Zucky Wrote:  

I have real problems with touching sometimes. I met this girl a while back. Kinda cute, but she was really... tense. I wanted to touch her, to make contact. Conversation was nice, we had a few drinks, a few laughs and stories. She didn't give me a headache.

But I pussied out with the touch, I thought she might freak out, or break down, or something.

Anyone know any good ways/moves to touch girls? Something that's kinda natural, or fun?

I've only got 3 moves at my disposal now.
1)Grab her by the ass and pull her towards my crotch.
2)Cliched over the shoulder thing (a classic, though I usually don't bother with the yawn.)
3) Hold her hand and lead her to the bar. (Good way to gauge interest I find.)

Also, anyone got any tips for overcoming fear/ being a pussy and just going for the touch regardless?

I would say start with non-sexual touching first. High fives, palm reading (you can bullshit this one), punch in the arm if she says something smart. If she is giving IOIs or returning the favor with the above then you can go into holding hands, arms around waist, etc.

[LAX]

You must touch. Nowadays I touch arms, shoulders, non-sexual areas w/o even realizing it. I probably wouldn't open with a touch unless you want to stop her path in which case Id recommend a light shoulder tap.

Past 3-5 minutes after you've established a non-serial killer vibe you should execute a combination of playful and affectionate kino.

It changes everything. If you aren't touching you are not escalating

[coverdoc]

Simple bro, two chicks both look the same, one is touching you the other one did not. Who are you going to be more attracted to. Always lightly touch.

-CD