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I posted this on my facebook about objectification going both ways.
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I posted this on my facebook about objectification going both ways.

Guys objectify women by placing a premium on their looks above all else.

Women objectify men by placing a premium on their looks, height, job, social status, sense of humor, etc.

Maybe the men don't own a monopoly over sexism?

Hardly got a response, however, as most of my posts that point out feminist hypocrisy.
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#2

I posted this on my facebook about objectification going both ways.

I've found that women don't want to deal with anything weighty on Facebook. If you post about something that's either too deep, or requires them to be honest and self-critical, all you'll hear are crickets.

"The best kind of pride is that which compels a man to do his best when no one is watching."
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#3

I posted this on my facebook about objectification going both ways.

Quote: (09-13-2012 06:13 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

I've found that women don't want to deal with anything weighty on Facebook. If you post about something that's either too deep, or requires them to be honest and self-critical, all you'll hear are crickets.

That's true for them in every aspect of life, though. They're so solipistic. They're response to any kind of criticism towards women in general is like "but I'm not like that!" it doesn't help that they typically aren't very self-aware, either.

I did, however, get into a great debate with two diehard liberal women over the gender wage gap. One of them is this uberfeminist Lesbian, who I was actually very close friends with: she even used some of my game advice to great success with this hot girl way out of her league. After posting a bunch of stuff criticising feminism and their bogus statistics, she's stopped being friends with me. Me quoting Manly Asshole from twitter hit the nail on the coffin for her: "Don't date bulimic girls, they never swallow."

Good riddance. I once debated her and another girl on false rape allegations, her argument amounted to "yeah, but most of them are true so it's no big deal if a few guys get falsley accused." Jesus, what an idiotic and evil perspective. I won't miss her.
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#4

I posted this on my facebook about objectification going both ways.

We have an open thread on everything else. Better to use that thread than creating a new one that has nothing to do with game.

The cycle of disrespect can start with just an appetizer.
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#5

I posted this on my facebook about objectification going both ways.

Quote: (09-13-2012 06:20 PM)megatron Wrote:  

Quote: (09-13-2012 06:13 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

I've found that women don't want to deal with anything weighty on Facebook. If you post about something that's either too deep, or requires them to be honest and self-critical, all you'll hear are crickets.

That's true for them in every aspect of life, though. They're so solipistic. They're response to any kind of criticism towards women in general is like "but I'm not like that!" it doesn't help that they typically aren't very self-aware, either.

I did, however, get into a great debate with two diehard liberal women over the gender wage gap. One of them is this uberfeminist Lesbian, who I was actually very close friends with: she even used some of my game advice to great success with this hot girl way out of her league. After posting a bunch of stuff criticising feminism and their bogus statistics, she's stopped being friends with me. Me quoting Manly Asshole from twitter hit the nail on the coffin for her: "Don't date bulimic girls, they never swallow."

Good riddance. I once debated her and another girl on false rape allegations, her argument amounted to "yeah, but most of them are true so it's no big deal if a few guys get falsley accused." Jesus, what an idiotic and evil perspective. I won't miss her.

Yep. This is exactly how women feel, unless of course it's a man they really care about, like a relative. Feminism isn't about equality, but more about gaining power over men. Vengeance. They want to see us hurt, but at the same time seek our protection when they start some shit that they can't get out of themselves.

"The best kind of pride is that which compels a man to do his best when no one is watching."
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#6

I posted this on my facebook about objectification going both ways.

Quote: (09-13-2012 06:45 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

Quote: (09-13-2012 06:20 PM)megatron Wrote:  

Quote: (09-13-2012 06:13 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

I've found that women don't want to deal with anything weighty on Facebook. If you post about something that's either too deep, or requires them to be honest and self-critical, all you'll hear are crickets.

That's true for them in every aspect of life, though. They're so solipistic. They're response to any kind of criticism towards women in general is like "but I'm not like that!" it doesn't help that they typically aren't very self-aware, either.

I did, however, get into a great debate with two diehard liberal women over the gender wage gap. One of them is this uberfeminist Lesbian, who I was actually very close friends with: she even used some of my game advice to great success with this hot girl way out of her league. After posting a bunch of stuff criticising feminism and their bogus statistics, she's stopped being friends with me. Me quoting Manly Asshole from twitter hit the nail on the coffin for her: "Don't date bulimic girls, they never swallow."

Good riddance. I once debated her and another girl on false rape allegations, her argument amounted to "yeah, but most of them are true so it's no big deal if a few guys get falsley accused." Jesus, what an idiotic and evil perspective. I won't miss her.

Yep. This is exactly how women feel, unless of course it's a man they really care about, like a relative. Feminism isn't about equality, but more about gaining power over men. Vengeance. They want to see us hurt, but at the same time seek our protection when they start some shit that they can't get out of themselves.

Yep. Feminism is all about attaining the most choice/power for women while still taking advantage of male-provided chivalry and protection (financial, emotional, physical, etc.).

Anyway, I have to stop posting so much anti-feminist stuff on facebook. It will most likely end up getting me into trouble with prospective employers. I even deleted the bulimic joke. I posted whilst stoned, which was a dumb idea.
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#7

I posted this on my facebook about objectification going both ways.

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We have an open thread on everything else. Better to use that thread than creating a new one that has nothing to do with game.

My bad, I didn't mean to clog up the board.

Moderators, close this thread or move if you deem it necessary.

Chock it up to newb inexperience.
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#8

I posted this on my facebook about objectification going both ways.

I applaud the thought, but why are you posting that on Facebook? It sounds bitter even to me, let alone an ego-inflated girl sitting in her room with messages pouring in. I've found that the best recipe to convey the message is only when asked, otherwise it inevitably comes across as try-hard. Don't be that guy trying to "spread the word" on FB.

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#9

I posted this on my facebook about objectification going both ways.

^I agree with H.C.E., why are you proselytizing on the facebook?? Don't be one of those guys man, save that shit for a blog.
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#10

I posted this on my facebook about objectification going both ways.

Don't try to change a woman's opinion. It will just give you gray hair.

Live the principles instead.
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#11

I posted this on my facebook about objectification going both ways.

I have found that most people aren't willing to get into deep discussion on facebook or in public. You post some BS about some trivial shit and you get a bunch of likes and people commenting on it.
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#12

I posted this on my facebook about objectification going both ways.

You can't reason with women, but you can appeal to their emotions.

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#13

I posted this on my facebook about objectification going both ways.

Quote: (09-15-2012 03:18 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

I have found that most people aren't willing to get into deep discussion on facebook or in public. You post some BS about some trivial shit and you get a bunch of likes and people commenting on it.

In the right setting, with the right people, you can have these kinds of discussions. In my circle, we've had some very good discussions. One-on-one, I've had some nice online chats with women regarding men and women and relationships. I've also been part of group discussions that have degenerated into shouting and name-calling, the women taking sides against the men, hurt feelings, etc. It all depends on who and when. I've only had one such discussion on FB, initiated by a woman, but only three or four of us joined in - everyone else avoided that particular thread.

"The best kind of pride is that which compels a man to do his best when no one is watching."
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#14

I posted this on my facebook about objectification going both ways.

Quote: (09-15-2012 12:52 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Don't try to change a woman's opinion. It will just give you gray hair.

Live the principles instead.

true that, Roosh. you know what I've realized over the past few days? the only girls in my life who understand manosphere logical arguments are girls who have lived tough lives where virtually everything theyve attained in life has come with hard work and sacrifice. I'm good friends with this HB8 in her late 20s, she's lived a very hard life in which her parents were shiftless junkies her entire life. the mother ODed when she was 15. but she still worked her butt off and was valedictorian of her school and went to nyu. she's also a former slut and very open about that. anyway, this is just one example of a woman in my life who didn't receive the daddys lil princess treatment and therefore is much more grounded and attuned to logic.
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#15

I posted this on my facebook about objectification going both ways.

You would have better luck arguing with a dining room table than changing most women's opinions.

The ones who've had a hard life, as megatron said, seem to in my experience be more realistic. They also have much more red-pill views on feminism. Sometimes I wonder if it's not that men and women have different viewpoints, but if our game and gender-relations aren't about genders, but those constantly sought out and those who aren't.
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