[ElJefe]

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[Roosh]

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The reason you hear about Argentina being so tough for gaming is because there's no white boy worship down there.

Spoken like a man who has never been to Argentina. And it's a shame you continue to display an innate hatred towards whites on the forum. It's so bitter I don't need to meet you to know you despise them.

Once you consider that men of ALL RACES have trouble in Argentina (yes, blacks included), not because of how their race is perceived, but because of the personality of the women, you would probably think twice before making such ignorant race-baiting comments in the future.

[rhodey]

(05-23-2013 08:22 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:

The reason you hear about Argentina being so tough for gaming is because there's no white boy worship down there.

Spoken like a man who has never been to Argentina. And it's a shame you continue to display an innate hatred towards whites on the forum. It's so bitter I don't need to meet you to know you despise them.

Once you consider that men of ALL RACES have trouble in Argentina (yes, blacks included), not because of how their race is perceived, but because of the personality of the women, you would probably think twice before making such ignorant race-baiting comments in the future.

Rooshv

Maybe, I haven't been to Argentina myself. But I don't see where Jariel's observation exemplifies hatred for whites.

Lets keep it real Roosh white status is a huge advantage in Latin America - and most parts of the non white world. Simply noticing that doesn't make someone racist toward whites.

[BIGBOY]

Being "white" per se, won't get you anywhere in Buenos Aires, perhaps in other parts of the country where the population is darker and more indigenous it will have a bigger advantage. However, being white, blonde, and blue eyed in Buenos will help, it won't guarantee you anything, but it is an advantage.

The main issue in Buenos Aires is breaking social groups. So much is based on status, and who you are friends with, who you know. A lot of the upper middle / high class girls are not impressed if you are from the states or europe and won't be quick to sleep with you if they know you are only here for a week and are staying in a hostel. It takes time to lock down BA, and building status is the most important thing, and that doesn't mean just throwing a bunch of money around.

[BIGBOY]

My answer to the original question posted in this thread is that you should be treated fine in Argentina. Will being black in and of itself help you clean up with the girls..probably not, but I don't think it will hinder you all that much with the large majority of the girls.

[jariel]

(05-23-2013 10:12 AM)rhodey Wrote:  

Rooshv

Maybe, I haven't been to Argentina myself. But I don't see where Jariel's observation exemplifies hatred for whites.

Lets keep it real Roosh white status is a huge advantage in Latin America - and most parts of the non white world. Simply noticing that doesn't make someone racist toward whites.

Thank you Rhodey.

As a Black person of Latin American descent, I have a number of Argentinian friends and have dated/hooked up with a number of the women, so my comment comes from my own personal experiences and knowledge of their culture, and the goal was to assuage the OP's initial concerns, not diss "whites".

Obviously I disagree with Roosh's observation, but unfortunately, I have a history here of being in the middle of a number of race-related debates in the past, and my personal views on race are definitely not kosher with the majority of this board. I will not apologize for said views, but I do regret the past disruptions and arguments I had with other members, some of them are individuals who have contributed a hell of a lot more here than I have, and in the time since I have come to respect many of them not just as members of this board, but as men.

As a result, I've made a concerted effort to avoid any type of race-related discussions that pits one side against another for at least the past 6-8 months. I've not only apologized to Roosh privately for the disruptions, but I vowed to be more of a positive presence around here, and if at any time he ever felt he didn't want me to be here, I'd accept that without a problem.

What's unfortunate is that from my view, he is unaware of or chooses to ignore the contributions that I do make -- not that I'm looking for props or recognition -- and continues to judge me solely based off of those past issues.

I'll end by saying that given that no one here knows me personally, no one is in a position to say what I am as a man, and what I'm not. What one believes and what one knows are two different things. Hate is not something I carry with me, and it's not the way I choose to live my life. Given what I came from, I'm here in Miami living the dream, and I'm thankful for that.

[Roosh]

How would you react if you saw the following:

"The reason you hear about Russia being so tough for gaming is because there's no black boy worship down there."

You'd lose your shit, and be the first to hit the report button while saying how this forum is racist. You say you try to avoid race-related discussion, but you're waiting in the grass, ready to attack when you sense an opportunity. Whatever contributions you do make is cancelled out by these acts of provocation.

I can say that the worst kind of race troll is the one who has intellectualized it, like the HBD crowd and their IQ studies. He thinks he is never wrong, and is spreading his "red pill race knowledge" to the world that is not just ready for it, when it's nothing more than a personal vendetta against a specific race.

[Hencredible Casanova]

I went to Argentina in 2009/2010, I didn't even bother trying to hookup with the local chicks, just gringas. I came very close in Rosario but got cockblocked at the very last second. One of my best friends - who is also black - went there in 2011 and struggled, and he's a model who has no problem getting chicks in the States. I've also met Argentines abroad.

I agree with the consensus that it's something about the women there. Perhaps the culture of frigidity, Catholicism, and just the idea that having sex - especially with a foreigner - is a bad thing. Even Argentine guys I know complain about the women. In Brazil, like Florianopolis for example, you'll find a ton of Argentine guys on vacay looking for Brazilian girls because they're "easier."

It's just a unique culture. I don't think race is really a factor in Argentina because there are essentially no black people. They just don't think about black people. Blacks aren't seen out and about in daily life. If anything, you might be assumed to be Brazilian if you're black, which isn't bad. You will also get looks depending on where you go unlike Brazil.

Every guy I know, regardless of race, complains about the women.

Argentina is not the place for guys thinking their race will help for their success. Even game is largely ineffective IMO. That place is an enigma. Maybe social circle....

[rhodey]

(05-24-2013 05:27 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

How would you react if you saw the following:

"The reason you hear about Russia being so tough for gaming is because there's no black boy worship down there."

You'd lose your shit, and be the first to hit the report button while saying how this forum is racist. You say you try to avoid race-related discussion, but you're waiting in the grass, ready to attack when you sense an opportunity. Whatever contributions you do make is cancelled out by these acts of provocation.

Why would anyone "lose (their) shit" . We come here to get the truth, if that truth is not favorable , so be it .

[Timoteo]

Let me say this. If guys can trumpet how certain looks are an advantage in certain countries in South America, I don't think it's out of line to state that those looks aren't advantageous in Argentina. In fact, to say so only reiterates what some of you are saying - that all men are on equal, difficult footing in Argentina. It's just a different way of stating that. Perhaps Jariel could have stated it differently. Men here have made some pretty blunt statements regarding different races, and haven't been accused of hate towards those races, or baiting. We're either going to be sensitive all around, or blunt all around.

[jariel]

(05-24-2013 05:27 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

How would you react if you saw the following:

"The reason you hear about Russia being so tough for gaming is because there's no black boy worship down there."

You'd lose your shit, and be the first to hit the report button while saying how this forum is racist. You say you try to avoid race-related discussion, but you're waiting in the grass, ready to attack when you sense an opportunity. Whatever contributions you do make is cancelled out by these acts of provocation.

I wouldn't react at all. I mean there are a number of posts here that actually discourage Blacks from traveling to certain places, and that's ok, and other guys tout how they go to places and despite any knowledge of the local culture, language, etc. their physical features help them get ass, and that's ok as well.

Given the lack of participation I've had in any heated race-based discussions in recent history, to say that "I'm waiting in the grass, ready to attack" is just hyperbole on your part. Furthermore, the only time I recall reporting something to you was the time one former memeber was making personal attacks and threats via PM over a non-racial discussion, which you handled immediately, so again, I disagree with the idea that "I'd lose my shit" and be "the first one to hit the report button" given that that is something I'm quite sure that I've never done, especially since I understand that my past actions have not afforded me the clout nor right to do so.

I respect that this is your board, and you're entitled to your opinion, but given the number of private messages I receive with questions about Miami and my trips to Mexico and South America, apparently other members do value my contributions, and I appreciate that.

As long as I'm here, I'll do my best to continue to contribute to the board.

Again, my goal was to respond to the OP's concerns, not diss anybody.

[thegmanifesto]

Am I the only one that has felt that his race hasn't been a plus or a minus in where he has traveled?

(05-24-2013 10:00 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

I agree with the consensus that it's something about the women there. Perhaps the culture of frigidity, Catholicism, and just the idea that having sex - especially with a foreigner - is a bad thing.

Argentina to me is almost exactly like Spain in this respect.

I think those are just two countries where it is hard to swoop mass amounts of girls.

I think you have to date them and get to know them.

But for all the complaining on the forum about American women in this respect, you would think some people on here would view that as a positive.

[Mekorig]

Local here: Sorry guys, but beign black does not give you any advantage for shagging local women. women goes 2black-crazy" when in Brazil, during summer, but during the rest of the year, they are hard to get (histericas) to anyone, no matter your ethniticity. Yeah, i admit, we argies like to play in "hard mode". XD XD

[rudebwoy]

(05-24-2013 05:27 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

How would you react if you saw the following:

"The reason you hear about Russia being so tough for gaming is because there's no black boy worship down there."

You'd lose your shit, and be the first to hit the report button while saying how this forum is racist. You say you try to avoid race-related discussion, but you're waiting in the grass, ready to attack when you sense an opportunity. Whatever contributions you do make is cancelled out by these acts of provocation.

I can say that the worst kind of race troll is the one who has intellectualized it, like the HBD crowd and their IQ studies. He thinks he is never wrong, and is spreading his "red pill race knowledge" to the world that is not just ready for it, when it's nothing more than a personal vendetta against a specific race.

In all fairness we have heard reports telling us (Blacks) to stay away from Russia and how xenophobic the culture is.
I recall a data sheet whereby the poster stated that he spoke to "two" girls and they mentioned having a dis-like for black men.
There was another thread trying to imply that black men only get girls in Brazil that are pro's.
I don't lose my shirt over these comments, I simply laugh. It is one person's opinion and will not stop me from visiting a country if I so desire.

[Moma]

Well I've heard that you need a high percentage of purity to be considered white. Maybe 97 percent purity or higher is the requisite. I have a white friend in France and she says that Portuguese are not white. I knew this as well, I told a Portuguese guy from work that he wasn't white and he went white with shock.

I told him that I didn't write the rules and he can confirm with Europe.

Thoughts?

[Hencredible Casanova]

(05-24-2013 12:17 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Am I the only one that has felt that his race hasn't been a plus or a minus in where he has traveled?

(05-24-2013 10:00 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

I agree with the consensus that it's something about the women there. Perhaps the culture of frigidity, Catholicism, and just the idea that having sex - especially with a foreigner - is a bad thing.

Argentina to me is almost exactly like Spain in this respect.

I think those are just two countries where it is hard to swoop mass amounts of girls.

I think you have to date them and get to know them.

But for all the complaining on the forum about American women in this respect, you would think some people on here would view that as a positive.

Yeah I think that's true. For the traveling international playboy who's short on time, I would avoid women from those countries. But if you're going to post up for a while then dating makes sense. I think social circle is very important in those places. But unlike Argentina, Spain is still worth visiting often because the cities are so international and you'll find women from all over. Like I don't have to have a Catalan flag when visiting Barcelona since there are many attractive women from other places.

[Teedub]

(05-24-2013 03:29 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Well I've heard that you need a high percentage of purity to be considered white. Maybe 97 percent purity or higher is the requisite. I have a white friend in France and she says that Portuguese are not white. I knew this as well, I told a Portuguese guy from work that he wasn't white and he went white with shock.

I told him that I didn't write the rules and he can confirm with Europe.

Thoughts?

Your French friend is weird. Nobody I know would ever say a Portugese person isn't white, except perhaps a North American confused with the 'Latin' thing. If this guy (Portugese football coach) isn't white, then I'm not either!

[azulsombra]

I dropped a report about a year back or so in a thread hencredible started about wildest travel experiences. In the that thread i detailed how i got a quick 2hr max lay using daygame in a small argentinian town. I consider myself a good looking brotha and im fluent in spanish, so yes your mileage will vary of course if your a brotha who only speaks english and only stays in buenos aires. I do consider being black an advantage in Argentina, just as i consider being white an even bigger advantage in brazil, DR and Peru.

. Other chicks that i have smashed in argentina, a chick in cordoba, a half cuban argentina chick at a club in BA and there was another one as well that i forget where. I didnt stay in mar del plata long but this cute older chick on a bus offered it it too me not so subtle, if i had been around longer i would have taken advantage. I've also smashed a 19yr old argie chick in the states.

I try and keep it 100% as much as possible on here, i crashed and burned with brazilians but the argies have been good to me. I plan to return.

Out........

[sugafree]

I went to BA, Argentina not expecting much play for being a black dude there.
I had more women flirting and giving me phone numbers then I knew what to do with.
Even had the older sister of one chick I banged get mad and jealous of her because she said she always wanted to be with a black man ever since she was a young teen and her younger sister got to before her, she kept asking me if I could bring more black friends with me next time.

That place showed me nothing but love and even some German decedent nazi looking biker dudes there were really cool and buying me drinks. Very warm people if you get to know them, and the women are very competitive and envious of other local women with attractive masculine black men. Def a good place to be a spanish speaking attractive black man.

[playa_with_a_passport]

I almost skipped Argentina because their racism is legendary even thought I never actually had any dealings with one. However, I found Argentinians way less prejudiced than other latinos. Even their law enforcement were cool as cucumbers. No extra scrutiny or asking me stupid questions. They have a reputation in Latin circles in the US of being über racist but I think is more of people misinterpreting Argies over fetishzation of all things Italian and Spanish. As long as you don't try to fuck with their hamster that tells them they are European you should be good.

I met quite a few of Black Africans, Americans and Braizilians who lived in BA and although they were not by all means killing it like Fisto is in SEA they were getting their fair share. Is just like back home, most lizards won't be into Brothas but the ones who are they go hard and they are as subtle as a bat to the back of the head. Also, like Hern said BA is very cosmopolitan, I saw girls from all over Latin America even Dominicanas.

If I ever return, I would do the whole fly crib in Palermo, moscato in the fridge and bring my gators, Sean John suit and pocket square. For a long time, I used to be in the camp that you are not a true player unless you can get laid with your mouth piece only. Now that I am older I see the error of my ways. G was right all along.

[simondice]

I like how it doesn't matter what your race is, Argentinian girls are hard for everyone

I wonder why, they're hot yeah but so are other countries.

[Margaman]

This thread id nothing without pics....

[Merenguero]

(05-24-2013 12:17 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Am I the only one that has felt that his race hasn't been a plus or a minus in where he has traveled?

(05-24-2013 10:00 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

I agree with the consensus that it's something about the women there. Perhaps the culture of frigidity, Catholicism, and just the idea that having sex - especially with a foreigner - is a bad thing.

Argentina to me is almost exactly like Spain in this respect.

I think those are just two countries where it is hard to swoop mass amounts of girls.

I think you have to date them and get to know them.

But for all the complaining on the forum about American women in this respect, you would think some people on here would view that as a positive.

This guy needs to put down the soy and start posting again, if he is even permitted to do so. Maybe he could take it easy on the smackdowns.

[TigerTim]

(05-24-2013 03:29 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Well I've heard that you need a high percentage of purity to be considered white. Maybe 97 percent purity or higher is the requisite. I have a white friend in France and she says that Portuguese are not white. I knew this as well, I told a Portuguese guy from work that he wasn't white and he went white with shock.

I told him that I didn't write the rules and he can confirm with Europe.

Thoughts?

I see french people coming here in North of Germany as tourists, and compared to local germans they look "non-white" they have usually thicker, darker hairs, more mediterranean or mixed mediterranean looks, and they are easily to spot compared to the truly nordic looking population over here.. so the concept of "what is white or not " is relative. also most people usually dont use the concept white or non-white.. its mosly an american/new-word/anglosphere thing.. in Europe people identify by their nationalities and more so by the areas/cities they grew up and by their local language.

[TigerTim]

(05-25-2013 05:46 AM)Teedub Wrote:  

(05-24-2013 03:29 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Well I've heard that you need a high percentage of purity to be considered white. Maybe 97 percent purity or higher is the requisite. I have a white friend in France and she says that Portuguese are not white. I knew this as well, I told a Portuguese guy from work that he wasn't white and he went white with shock.

I told him that I didn't write the rules and he can confirm with Europe.

Thoughts?

Your French friend is weird. Nobody I know would ever say a Portugese person isn't white, except perhaps a North American confused with the 'Latin' thing. If this guy (Portugese football coach) isn't white, then I'm not either!

He looks latin european regarless of his pigmentation. Also average Portuguese is darker than that.