[Greek kamaki]

Bulgaria:They have gangster style but they are good fellas.The problem is that they look and behave like gangsters so you feel like being ripped off.
Hungary:They are crooks of turkish style.(play ignorance,never give information etc).They will scam you everywhere by exploiting lack of information.
Poland:They are pocket money scammers.Everyone will take from you a bit more(for example the taxi driver will leave his engine on while parking and talking to you,the hotel receptionist will charge you extra without you noticing,the seller will change your currency in lower price than the bank without telling you,the train conductor will ask you to give him some money to avoid penalty etc.This does not bother you because it is not much money they extract so you pretend you do not notice the small theft.
Ukraineroffessional scammers.In Ukraine you are in real danger especially in tourist heavy places like the airports.The amount of scams they pull on innocent tourists is outrageous.They have a whole method based on creating trust,getting you smoothly into scam and then take your money fast at circumstances where you are blocked and cannot react.They always try to find you off balance when you are too tired or want to leave the country and do not pay attention.To complete their action they always act fast and disarmingly.The whole point is not to fall in the trap.Once they get you into the trap you are finished.

So Bulgaria-harmless gangsters,Hungary-turkish style crooks,Poland-small pocket money thieves,Ukraine-proffessional scammers.

[polish rumble]

(09-14-2012 12:18 PM)Statsi Wrote:  

I'm using your gallery but I will try to look out the pictures I took when in Lodz.
Sloppy as fuck, and these are pictures from as you put it 'the best club', plus they are the ones the club is putting up to promote the club. That gallery doesn't show any kind of style.

Bro, Umad or what? I'm in London couple of times a year, I can make as many pics as you want and show you guys who are even more 'sloppy'. I agree that these men lack of style but saying that jeans + button shirt would put someone in the top 1% is BS. Period. Oh, and when I said 'the best' I meant the best for pickup for a guys like you, not the most prestigious one.

(09-14-2012 04:57 PM)tiggaling Wrote:  

(09-14-2012 04:13 PM)EU Explorer Wrote:  

You are in the wrong city in Poland hence not seeing the best quality/ratios.

yeah, I have thought that may be the case - however, the capital is where I must be for now.

I'm beyond surprised, from my experience Warsaw equals the highest quality in country.

[XXL]

(09-13-2012 08:23 AM)Smitty Wrote:  

What style do you recommend in the Polish club? Will designer jeans with a nice shirt do it?

jeans + button shirt is a standard thing, people wear comfortable clothes in general mostly button up shirt or tshirts or polos with normal casual jeans

when i want to stand out i wear simple black jacket over tshirt, tight jeans and dress shoes. this gets me some of that first good impression. yet you will spot a few guys out dressed up in similar fashion but it's minority.

[rishboy77]

Statis - you really know your stuff.

Which of these countries would you recommend to a solo traveler ?

I'm East Indian in my early 40's and but look about 35. I'm looking to score in the 23-30 age range. I've only been to Kiev twice and can attest to the language barrier there since I speak only English.

[rastignac]

(09-13-2012 08:23 AM)Smitty Wrote:  

(09-10-2012 09:35 PM)Statsi Wrote:  

In Poland I've been to Gdansk and Lodz. Poland is a great country for feminine fun girls, if you choose to come here just be open and friendly, talk to loads of girls and be willing to buy them a vodka or two. it's not the same as in the west where buying girls drinks is not good. If you get any trouble from the locals(I did in Lodz) just walk away, it's better to try a new girl than to fight a bunch of Polish dudes. Gdansk was better for day gaming due to the beach and sunny weather, they do amazing sea food here. If you are a day gamer and like to pipe line this is your place, easy to set of multiple dates and plenty to do. On the beach you will see alot of Big Polish guys, they have a military culture and with madatory military service you'll see plenty of muscles, be sure to work out before you hit gdansk. Lodz was amazing for Logistics, all the pubs and clubs are on the one street, get a room on that street and you are golden. If you pick up you are getting the girl home. be sure to visit Dachau is you get bored of all the femnine girls. For a club recommendation check out bedrooms, it's an amazing huge nightclub thats busy every damn day and has beds with closable curtains lining the upstairs walkway, ever got laid in a club before? Mark it off your list. The guys in Lodz dress sloppy as fuck so shirt up and you'll be classier than anybody out. Polish girls are great fun, you can just walk up to any group and start the crack and jokes. be semi open and you'll be fine, no need to alpha indifference or anything. Just say 'Hey I love your outift/hair/etc' then start talking away. Gentle compliments and an energtic fun vibe gets you far in Poland. When it comes time for the close be sure to pressure agressively and as tightly as usual though. I have heard from friends that Krakow is great for students, so if you and your friend are college age it might be your scene.

Statsi, +1. This input is golden.
You said the guys in Lodz dress sloppy. A friend who lives there told me the exact same thing. What style do you recommend in the Polish club? Will designer jeans with a nice shirt do it?

My experience is women in Ukraine (Kiev, Odessa) under 30 know English. They might just be a bit shy to use it. Learn some basic Russian and meet them half way.

[BCZalgyris]

My experience is women in Ukraine (Kiev, Odessa) under 30 know English. They might just be a bit shy to use it. Learn some basic Russian and meet them half way.
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Rastignac, I disagree a bit with your statement...I have no experience about Odessa but I can speak for Kiev. My vacation was short there but I literally went out 24/7 and even pulled a 50 hour shift at one point without sleeping so I had plenty of time to meet locals of all socio-economic backgrounds and ages. I came back from UA in March and if I had not known Russian my experience would have been miserable. In the locals only bars and clubs (off city centre) 90% of my approaches were in Russian and I had to run translation-game for my American friend who would pull women off the dance floor with his salsa moves but could not escalate due to the language barrier. I would say the knowledge of English is no more than 40%. The problem is that a lot of the girls in their 20s learned English in secondary school but if they did not pursue higher education, travel abroad or were in a field that is primarily taught in a local language (such as business administration or nursing) then they will understand you but will not be able to answer in proper English or might have elementary conversations only based on vocabulary words. For example, I met 3 good looking women by Olympissky Stadium who were all in their 20's and college educated. They gave me and my friend an ad-hoc tour of Kiev and only 1 spoke passable English. At shooters my friend and eye met 2 goerguous blonde chicks with whom we hung out all night club-hopping and even though they were 4th year university students their English was barely conversational. Another girl who we meet at Shooters in her late 20s and who was inclined to go back to our apartment for an after-party also could barely converse and I had to run translation game for my friend. These examples go on and on. I would say out of all the numbers I got in Kiev and dates I went on only about 25% were fluent in English.

[Brosemite]

(09-10-2012 09:35 PM)Statsi Wrote:  

In Poland I've been to Gdansk and Lodz. Poland is a great country for feminine fun girls, if you choose to come here just be open and friendly, talk to loads of girls and be willing to buy them a vodka or two. it's not the same as in the west where buying girls drinks is not good. If you get any trouble from the locals(I did in Lodz) just walk away, it's better to try a new girl than to fight a bunch of Polish dudes. Gdansk was better for day gaming due to the beach and sunny weather, they do amazing sea food here. If you are a day gamer and like to pipe line this is your place, easy to set of multiple dates and plenty to do. On the beach you will see alot of Big Polish guys, they have a military culture and with madatory military service you'll see plenty of muscles, be sure to work out before you hit gdansk. Lodz was amazing for Logistics, all the pubs and clubs are on the one street, get a room on that street and you are golden. If you pick up you are getting the girl home. be sure to visit Dachau is you get bored of all the femnine girls. For a club recommendation check out bedrooms, it's an amazing huge nightclub thats busy every damn day and has beds with closable curtains lining the upstairs walkway, ever got laid in a club before? Mark it off your list. The guys in Lodz dress sloppy as fuck so shirt up and you'll be classier than anybody out. Polish girls are great fun, you can just walk up to any group and start the crack and jokes. be semi open and you'll be fine, no need to alpha indifference or anything. Just say 'Hey I love your outift/hair/etc' then start talking away. Gentle compliments and an energtic fun vibe gets you far in Poland. When it comes time for the close be sure to pressure agressively and as tightly as usual though. I have heard from friends that Krakow is great for students, so if you and your friend are college age it might be your scene.

I got a chance to visit a gal from my past in Lodz, but we never got around to doing big time nightlife stuff you mentioned so I appreciate the tips...albeit other things yes...

I'd say Lodz is prime for the picking with those tips provided you're not of darker skin or a minority though as the general public there is kinda racist, which wasn't the case in Wroclaw, Poznan, or Warsaw though. So pipelining is everything if you are of darker skin or east Asian like myself. All the younger girls there though that study at a university are DTF if you have a connection with them, but some of the younger busted up dudes in packs creeped me out a bit.

The tips about how dudes dress in Lodz are hilarious as I can totally recall that.

(09-10-2012 09:35 PM)Statsi Wrote:  

Hungary is a strange beast, I visited Budapest and expected a fairly eastern european vibe but it seemed like a run down western city to me. Fairly inexpensive drinks and decent quality too. Staropramen and Absinthe are a good way to spend an evening. the hungarians I met seemed to have strong social groups, making it hard to break down and isolate girls. Catch a nap and have red bull any time you head out as you are likely to be invited back to after parties where you will need to outlast your girls friends in order to get the lay. The public transport system if great in Budapest so that will save you on taxis, and there is plenty of museums and historical sites to fill your non-game days. Hungarian girls are semi-western so run your regular tight agressive alpha game and you'll be fine, in particular cavemanning worked very well for me and my friend KD. The hungarians I've met have all been very clingy after sex, expect lots of texts and calls for a few days after.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't know too much about Hungarian chicks being clingy after sex despite staying there for 5 nights in a nice rental apt, haha.

The older Hungarians I met were very polite, but this is one place where I had great difficulty making friends given the insular cliques you mentioned. Many have said Hungarian women are not that fashionable, but I recall them be very well dressed when I visited October 2009. Mad props on going far in Budapest as my view of the younger people there likely reflect that of Roosh's on Danish ppl, haha.

Great response on all the other countries too.