[FretDancer]

I rolled Dolo today, I just came back, it was a complete failure. I was actually going to meet a girl and her friends but the bouncers tonight had a very stupid vibe and weren't letting many people in, and the girls were in already. I got tired of the bullshit and went to buy some cigarrettes, I saw various sets of girls ranging from 3-4 girls. I considered opening them but I was feeling down and didn't feel like doing the extra work for all the extra girls in the set.

I'm amazed by how many people actually roll dolo over here, and how successful they are. At this exact moment I find it very hard to cope it, maybe I need some more hints, or just needed a good vibe tonight. All my friends had other stuff to do and thats why I decided to try rolling dolo, even though that wasn't part of the plan, I considered it as a backup plan, which is what it turned out to be.

[solo]

Man I really want to become like you and just go out alone. I really dislike being dependent on my friends, who are not into picking up girls and just not willing to put in any work in this area. I used to do it when I was younger but lately Ive been feeling really selfconcious when I do it so I guess I have some self confidence issues I need to deal with.

In my experience I still feel its easier to roll alone when Im travelling or live abroad though. Its easier to strike up a conversation with a girl in a foreign country than my home town since the question where are you from? (and then just take it from there) comes natural. Here in my hometown I find myself having to force myself to start talking to the girls. Some days Im not the most outgoing type and just end up sipping my beer in the bar alone.

[Brian]

(04-03-2011 02:30 AM)FretDancer Wrote:  

I rolled Dolo today, I just came back, it was a complete failure. I was actually going to meet a girl and her friends but the bouncers tonight had a very stupid vibe and weren't letting many people in, and the girls were in already. I got tired of the bullshit and went to buy some cigarrettes, I saw various sets of girls ranging from 3-4 girls. I considered opening them but I was feeling down and didn't feel like doing the extra work for all the extra girls in the set.

I'm amazed by how many people actually roll dolo over here, and how successful they are. At this exact moment I find it very hard to cope it, maybe I need some more hints, or just needed a good vibe tonight. All my friends had other stuff to do and thats why I decided to try rolling dolo, even though that wasn't part of the plan, I considered it as a backup plan, which is what it turned out to be.

keep doing it - find one place you like and feel comfortable at and work there - that way when you walk in you know what you are getting and you will start to recognize some faces and people there to the point you will have some people to chat with

[K-man]

I've been rolling solo often, because I only have two capable wingmen, and they are often occupied (one is married, the other got a serious GF).
The rest of my friends, they are good guys and all, but I'd rather just have some beers with them, shoot the crap for a while and then when it's time to sarge, to continue solo. They hinder me rather than help me.

As far as suitable spots for going solo, this includes any kind of club with a theme you like - that way you won't even ask "what do I do between opening sets" - you'd just be enjoying yourself, that's what. This is different for everyone, it can be a place with live music, a sports bar, a drum'n'base club, or whatever, but somewhere you have fun and enjoy being even if there were no girls to hit on.

I also smoke cigarettes like the G, in my country this is still possible in clubs despite thightening smoking restrictions over the last several years, but even if it weren't, they would make special smoking parlours where it would be even easier to start a conversation with a smoking girl on your smoke break.

[thegmanifesto]

K-Man -

"I also smoke cigarettes like the G, in my country this is still possible in clubs "

What is your home country again?

[thegmanifesto]

(04-03-2011 02:30 AM)FretDancer Wrote:  

I rolled Dolo today, I just came back, it was a complete failure. I was actually going to meet a girl and her friends but the bouncers tonight had a very stupid vibe and weren't letting many people in, and the girls were in already. I got tired of the bullshit and went to buy some cigarrettes, I saw various sets of girls ranging from 3-4 girls. I considered opening them but I was feeling down and didn't feel like doing the extra work for all the extra girls in the set.

I'm amazed by how many people actually roll dolo over here, and how successful they are. At this exact moment I find it very hard to cope it, maybe I need some more hints, or just needed a good vibe tonight. All my friends had other stuff to do and thats why I decided to try rolling dolo, even though that wasn't part of the plan, I considered it as a backup plan, which is what it turned out to be.

FretDancer -

What went wrong exactly?

[Screwston]

I went out alone for the first time Saturday night to some bars. I didn't get any numbers but I give myself a pat on the back for finally letting my nuts hang and doing it. I'm ready to do this shit every weekend, its a lot easier to talk to girls when you don't have partna looking over your shoulder or standing next to you. I think I'm tripping but it seemed like girls were more eager to talk when they saw I was alone and not with a group of guys like every other dude

[solo]

(05-03-2011 05:58 AM)houston Wrote:  

I went out alone for the first time Saturday night to some bars. I didn't get any numbers but I give myself a pat on the back for finally letting my nuts hang and doing it. I'm ready to do this shit every weekend, its a lot easier to talk to girls when you don't have partna looking over your shoulder or standing next to you. I think I'm tripping but it seemed like girls were more eager to talk when they saw I was alone and not with a group of guys like every other dude

Interesting, I'm definately going to try it more. Personally I'm currently rolling "semi-solo"; I go to the club or whatever with my friends but once there I just split and am on my own. It doesn't give me total freedom but for now I thinks it's a reasonable compromise and it has some benefits such as it is a bit easier to get into a good state with my friends early in the night.

[Gmac]

(04-03-2011 02:30 AM)FretDancer Wrote:  

I rolled Dolo today, I just came back, it was a complete failure. I was actually going to meet a girl and her friends but the bouncers tonight had a very stupid vibe and weren't letting many people in, and the girls were in already. I got tired of the bullshit and went to buy some cigarrettes, I saw various sets of girls ranging from 3-4 girls. I considered opening them but I was feeling down and didn't feel like doing the extra work for all the extra girls in the set.

I'm amazed by how many people actually roll dolo over here, and how successful they are. At this exact moment I find it very hard to cope it, maybe I need some more hints, or just needed a good vibe tonight. All my friends had other stuff to do and thats why I decided to try rolling dolo, even though that wasn't part of the plan, I considered it as a backup plan, which is what it turned out to be.

You have to force yourself to do it and just plow through the openers and sets. All the hints in the world won't help if you're afraid or too "down" to approach. Even if you're just casually starting conversations with people that is better than sitting around brooding in depression. The whole point is to go out and have fun, looks like you're missing out bro. If you feel more comfortable in a bar than a club, hit that up solo. If you'd rather do day game first, work on that. Getting out of your comfort zone is necessary to begin overcoming the anxiety.

Lack of motivation is often my problem on a bad day, just gotta do it. Sooner or later you'll be in a good mood again.

[Menace]

I've started to do the solo thing. Your mind will resist you like crazy: it's too far, I'm too tired, it's too late, I'll do it tomorrow, I'll stay home and jerk off, etc. You must will yourself to do it and get out there. Even if you just talk to some dudes and hardly talk to any girl, you will have done more than most people would be willing to do. Going out, especially when you're practicing (which I am), is itself a success. Same as just say something to a girl instead of nothing. Just go out. Each time you do something socially uncomfortable, your confidence increases a little bit. You can't just decide to be confident one day.

[Catch 22]

(03-31-2011 10:40 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

qhttp://www.thegmanifesto.com/2011/03/vortex-zones-in-bars-restaurants-and-nightclubs.html

Enjoy. Feel free to ask me any additional questions.

Some real next level sh*t for your dome.

Ha, haven't heard a chess center square reference in awhile. Good post though.

When you grab the vortex spot at a bar, are you usually sitting towards the bar and approaching over the shoulder or facing away from the bar so the women approach right at you?

I think the vortex spot essentially acts as an implied time constraint; she could just walk away if she wanted. But for the same reason, seems like you gotta hook quickly.

[Mr.GM]

(05-03-2011 11:14 AM)Menace Wrote:  

Each time you do something socially uncomfortable, your confidence increases a little bit. You can't just decide to be confident one day.

Absolutely True!That's the best thing about rolling dolo

[azulsombra]

I roll dolo often, due to several factors and have quite a good deal of success with it. I've managed the majority of my snl in a dolo status. I find it easier to approach women AND get approached by women way more often when i'm alone as opposed to hanging wit my boys. Bars and lounges are perfect for this,large clubs....not so much. Just exude confidence, don't get drunk and you'll be fine.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I was feeling enthusiastic today so I decided to roll dolo. I didn't bomb or anything. In fact, there was nothing open - not one place in a city of roughly 200,000 - but at least I got a good, healthy walk.

I seriously need to emigrate.

[Mr.GM]

(05-05-2011 05:47 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

I was feeling enthusiastic today so I decided to roll dolo. I didn't bomb or anything. In fact, there was nothing open - not one place in a city of roughly 200,000 - but at least I got a good, healthy walk.

I seriously need to emigrate.

Where do u live?

[Screwston]

Why do y'all think so many guys are scared to go out solo and even look down on guys who do? Like only losers do it. I don't give a fuck what someone thinks of me but I'm curious

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(05-05-2011 06:53 PM)Mr.GM Wrote:  

(05-05-2011 05:47 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

I was feeling enthusiastic today so I decided to roll dolo. I didn't bomb or anything. In fact, there was nothing open - not one place in a city of roughly 200,000 - but at least I got a good, healthy walk.

I seriously need to emigrate.

Split, Croatia.

@houston: social conditioning, I guess. In today's culture, doing anything alone can often be considered as "loser activity", "creepy" or whatever. I believe that this is because most hobbies and activities are not done for the sake of just enjoying them, but for gaining social status / impressing people.

Where do u live?

[at350zguyy]

I used to do this when I was in grad school but now that I'm back at home I only find myself going out with friends. Even though I wasn't getting numbers or closes with women I need to start doing this again. I have fewer inhibitions when I am alone and more likely to say something to start conversations with women.

[Moma]

I've been rolling dolo because I'm not feeling some of my wings tastes in clubs. The funny thing is, every time I've gone dolo, I've been able to close.
Maybe there is something confident and mysterious to the lizards about a cat who is able to roll dolo.
Usually, I tell the lizards that I am meeting some friends there (because there can also be something creepy initially) to a lizard about a cat who rolls solo.

[Caligula]

(06-14-2011 10:16 AM)Moma Wrote:  

I've been rolling dolo because I'm not feeling some of my wings tastes in clubs. The funny thing is, every time I've gone dolo, I've been able to close.
Maybe there is something confident and mysterious to the lizards about a cat who is able to roll dolo.
Usually, I tell the lizards that I am meeting some friends there (because there can also be something creepy initially, to a lizard about a cat who rolls solo.

I always wonder about this. I used to make excuses but now I use Roosh's line about not having any friends or say I felt like going out after a long day's work.

[Vitriol]

For those of you worried about how you appear to others while going out alone, just do it a couple times at a venue you're already known/comfortable and you'll be fine. I don't think I've ever had anyone ask where my friends are or anything lame like that... who cares whether other people think it's wrong to go out alone.

9 times out of 10 if I wanna go out to practice my game, I do it alone. Having your friends with you creates distractions and you'll end up just talking to them most of the time and not making much of an effort to go outside of the people you came with. Your bros often end up competing with you (whether this is intended or not) for the same girls if you go out with them, which actually makes it harder. You create extra uneeded competition by going out with more dudes.

Just roll into the place, bullshit with the bartender for a minute as you order the first drink (easier at a venue you're already known), find a comfortable spot to actually sit (not stand as others have noted) and relax for a few minutes, then make a survey of the crowd and act accordingly from there. It's not rocket science and tends to be much more efficient than going out with other people.

[thegmanifesto]

Moma -

"Maybe there is something confident and mysterious to the lizards about a cat who is able to roll dolo."

Bingo!

Bruce Lee didn't roll with a big crew of guys in striped shirts and khaki pants did he?

[Screwston]

(06-14-2011 10:40 AM)Caligula Wrote:  

(06-14-2011 10:16 AM)Moma Wrote:  

I've been rolling dolo because I'm not feeling some of my wings tastes in clubs. The funny thing is, every time I've gone dolo, I've been able to close.
Maybe there is something confident and mysterious to the lizards about a cat who is able to roll dolo.
Usually, I tell the lizards that I am meeting some friends there (because there can also be something creepy initially, to a lizard about a cat who rolls solo.

I always wonder about this. I used to make excuses but now I use Roosh's line about not having any friends or say I felt like going out after a long day's work.

Does that line work about not having friends? I've been out solo quite a few times since I first posted in here. I didn't realize it until now but its a lot easier for me than the first time.

[Tim9000]

(01-14-2010 10:09 PM)BostonBMW Wrote:  

- Definitely planning on suiting up. I have 1 custom suit (Navy blue) and 1 of the rack one (Black) that I plan on wearing. I'm thinking some real wild color shirts, bold ties and pocket squares.
- I think I want to hit some bars in the Downtown of the city, a college bar, and a place near the crib just to mix it up a bit. Will use some suggestions from yelp and folks here.

I wouldn't "suit up" unless you're in a place where at at least some other men are suited up (or close to it) such as downtown bars right after work. I've gone out suited up a few times in places with no other
"suits" and I was surprised that I didn't get additional eye contact out of it (usually I get close to zero eye contact before approaching, so any increase would have been noticeable). When I mentioned this to a friend (a bit of a natural) he came up with something that made sense to me:

'Women don't want different-different, they want different-same, a better version of "standard"'

The "standard" you're trying to beat depends on venue type. You want to stand out as much as possible while still being "standard". Standing out in any other way makes you out of place. Think of an under-dressed man in a suited up spot. Or a suited up man in a bar full of flip-flop wearing 22 year olds. If he doesn't have his rolling luggage with him and a story about just getting off a plane to meet a friend, he's going to look silly there.

I can second the other people here who say that you needn't worry about questions about being out alone. I've had women ask me if I'm alone and have tried answers from "waiting for my friends" to "they're over there somewhere" (works fine in a crowded place) to "I came out alone". My answers didn't seem to matter. Even with the latter answer I've had women invite me to join there little group (I was shocked).

Tim

[thegmanifesto]

" a suited up man in a bar full of flip-flop wearing 22 year olds. If he doesn't have his rolling luggage with him and a story about just getting off a plane to meet a friend, he's going to look silly there."

I agree.

Although you might look like the cat that owns the spot. Depends on how much juice you have.

I get the "do you run the place?" all the time.

But it is usually in high end spots, not flip flop joints.

Hell, I don't even roll to flip flop joints.