Quote: (03-17-2016 05:21 AM)262 Wrote:
Quote: (03-16-2016 05:25 AM)Bushido Wrote:
The fact that any random lurker can read datasheets discourages people from posting valuable information.
It would be nice if there was a ... Private Lounge ...
I have seen this sentiment echoed across the forum and share similar thinking. In recognizing the need to balance many members' need for privacy with the importance of maintaining site traffic, I offer the following suggestions for the implementation of this private section.
Rationale:
Provide an avenue for the trusted members to share more personal, detailed, instructive, and location-specific information to a more private and trustworthy audience.
Context:
The private lounge would offer no guarantee of safety from hysterical SJWs, hackers, or employers -- and as such the core privacy protocols should remain in place (e.g., use a burner email, never use a real name, don't post pics of conquests etc).
However, by cutting off full unvetted access for anonymous lurkers thoroughly trawling the site and for Google bots in leading random people here via key word searches, it not only enhances security but also raises the sense of earned camaraderie.
Without this, many members either do not post or significantly limit their provision of detail due to largely reasonable concerns over privacy, selectivity, over-fishing and so on. In addition to the recent problems with over-zealous SJWs, moral-deficient journalists and pseudo-ethical hackers, ongoing concerns have been raised regarding the over-saturation of key location-specific markets due to probable lurker infiltration (using the RVF member-to-public viewer ratio as a guide) as well as a reluctance to share valuable personally-developed information to an audience of lurkers who provide the RVF membership with no reciprocal value.
The main focus of the forum could still be activity on the main site and wider social change.
Goals:
The primary goal is to establish trust, credibility, and a sense of brotherhood among members, thus encouraging a greater sharing of personally-meaningful experiences and more nuanced perspectives on game that could take the core level of RVF knowledge to another level.
Although it may reduce the number of views/replies to some solid threads in comparison to the views/replies that would be achieved if posted in public, having a tight yet active group of trustworthy and skilled gentlemen is likely to encourage some members to post more often and with more detail.
Note - as trust is the overriding principle, a rookie could be admitted if he demonstrates clear respect of the need for privacy, value-provision and elder deference.
Two general methods of entry:
(1) Become an established/trusted member of the RVF forum
(2) Meet an established/trusted member
Specific methods to achieve entry:
(1) Via contribution
On RVF
a. Make x number of posts, say 500 (quantitative measure), and/or
b. Gain x number of reps, say 50 (combined qualitative and quantitative measure), and/or
c. Make a meaningful, credible effort (based on Admin or Elite Member discretion; mainly qualitative measure), and/or
Elsewhere
d. Demonstrate support of the neomasculine movement through significant contributions to an external site, such as a personal blog, PUA lair postings, etc (based on Admin or Elite Member discretion; mainly qualitative measure).
~OR~
(2) Via face-to-face verification
a. Meet a forum Admin
- this could lead to direct admission
b. Meet an established Members, who would then
- write a short 'reference post' in a sub-forum entitled 'Member References' or
- contribute a 'reference point' which would be separate to the 'rep point' in that, moving forward, 'rep points' could refer to forum contributions whereas 'reference points' could refer to in-person verification.
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P.S. Regarding trolls
One suggestion to help weed out or at least improve the chance of identifying trolls:
Make it a requirement that every new member must post an introduction within the first week of gaining membership based on set questions, such as the following --
*Age by decade
*Country of origin
*Current location
*Time in current location
- History in game/relationships
- Involvement in Manosphere
- Reason for joining
- Goals
- Strengths
- Areas to improve
- Other interests
- RVF or other Wings/Referees
*indicate preferred but not mandatory for privacy reasons
Feedback is welcome as always, cheers.