[speakeasy]

I don't watch much TV but I happened to catch this show below late tonight and found it interesting to watch for the male/female dynamic. This guy gets set up on a faux date(he thinks it's real). The guy at first glance may look like a alpha, playa type of dude, but because he's in the presence of this hot girl, he becomes completely beta and fails every shit test thrown at him. It's kind of fun to watch because once you learn the basics of game, all this stuff clicks together and you see how hot women are allowed to control the frame, how they throw shit tests and how men don't pass them and demonstrate lower value. This guy's "date" was one big shit test from beginning to end and he failed from second one. Everything from his body posture to his game to his frame is a perfect example of what to avoid when dealing with a very attractive girl. Thing is, he probably isn't a hopeless beta, he probably does fine with 7s and 8s, but when thrown a real hottie, he just completely lost his balls. Pretty damn funny...

Fast-forward to about 2:00 minutes in.

http://www.bet.com/video/284690

[doriangray]

Interesting.

You could see him especially nervous on the first meeting where he gave her the massage. We can probably all learn from here. When you don't give a damn it's easy to be confident but when you are interested what the other person thinks, like here he's been waiting for this chance to meet her for so long, you suddenly cant be all that tough. Like speakeasy mentioned, you could see all classical mistakes here: the body language, trying to prove himself, no good jokes/humour, acting pretty stiff, not in charge of the situation..

In my opinion we should never give this power to any one despite how pretty or famous he or she is (I personally dont understand what's up with this modern western society with all ppl wanting to be famous and putting celebrities on pedestal). But of course, some times in real life some people just are so charismatic or maybe you care for them too much (one-itis or something) and this can't be achieved.

I think he did ok though. She was her idol and they put him through quite bad situations.. I mean he could've been worse.

[kerouac]

When she got up from the massage chair and he got a peek at that booty, he lost it for good

But from the beginning he just seemed like some good guy average dude who had a tough frame put on, but it wasn't reinforced. His body language was pretty weak, his voice was basically stuck trying to sound tough, and he failed shit-test one by one.

Although, you gotta admit, the situation was all in her favor. He had to come to her, he had to wait for her to finish a massage, he had to follow her around all day. It would be difficult to go through all of that and maintain an alpha frame I think.

Guys who get with models like that all live pretty outgoing lives, and in a sense, they suck that girl into their life. They invite the girl to their house, to their pool, to their yacht (or friend's yacht), etc. I think one part of game is to truly live one level higher than what you're trying to game, and if you can't live like that due to circumstance, find some friends who can and ride along.

On a side note, damn she was beautiful.

[speakeasy]

(12-25-2009 02:09 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

Guys who get with models like that all live pretty outgoing lives, and in a sense, they suck that girl into their life. They invite the girl to their house, to their pool, to their yacht (or friend's yacht), etc. I think one part of game is to truly live one level higher than what you're trying to game, and if you can't live like that due to circumstance, find some friends who can and ride along.

Yeah, I was thinking that too. You may be able to use game to DHV up to a point, but if you're talking about models, you really do have to live a higher value life if you want to attract and keep a girl like that. I think nearly every girl alive is both bitchy and sweet at the same time, it just depends where you stand on her value ladder. If you are the guy with the yacht like you were saying, and you don't act needy and make it clear you have your own life, a girl like that would probably be very sweet. If you are a beta with no money, all you'll see is her bitch shield.

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On a side note, damn she was beautiful.

You ain't kidding!



I don't know if her real personality is like that, if not, she's a damn good actress. Her whole persona was a perfect example of an Alpha Women. Both beautiful and has a lot of "girl game", e.g. sexiness, confidence, socially proofed, aloofness, hard to get at, etc.

[kerouac]

Melyssa Ford:

[UgSlayer]

(12-25-2009 02:28 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(12-25-2009 02:09 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

Guys who get with models like that all live pretty outgoing lives, and in a sense, they suck that girl into their life. They invite the girl to their house, to their pool, to their yacht (or friend's yacht), etc. I think one part of game is to truly live one level higher than what you're trying to game, and if you can't live like that due to circumstance, find some friends who can and ride along.

Yeah, I was thinking that too. You may be able to use game to DHV up to a point, but if you're talking about models, you really do have to live a higher value life if you want to attract and keep a girl like that. I think nearly every girl alive is both bitchy and sweet at the same time, it just depends where you stand on her value ladder. If you are the guy with the yacht like you were saying, and you don't act needy and make it clear you have your own life, a girl like that would probably be very sweet. If you are a beta with no money, all you'll see is her bitch shield.

Quote:

On a side note, damn she was beautiful.

You ain't kidding!



I don't know if her real personality is like that, if not, she's a damn good actress. Her whole persona was a perfect example of an Alpha Women. Both beautiful and has a lot of "girl game", e.g. sexiness, confidence, socially proofed, aloofness, hard to get at, etc.

I would let her sit on my face then I would eat that ass with a spoon.

[mulhollanddriven]

That was painful to watch. Brought back bad memories of me acting like a beta with a hot girl I knew a long time ago.