[Vicious]

(06-05-2012 03:39 PM)ATTA Wrote:  

Who said I was ever talking about that specific video? I'm not. I'm talking about Roissy and the large population of people who share his thoughts and musings on race and genetics. I don't give a shit about that video.

90%+ of your posts are in race related threads. I just checked. Of your 40 last posts not a single post was really related to game.

Why are you here?

[ATTA]

(06-05-2012 03:46 PM)j r Wrote:  

(06-05-2012 03:39 PM)ATTA Wrote:  

Who said I was ever talking about that specific video? I'm not. I'm talking about Roissy and the large population of people who share his thoughts and musings on race and genetics. I don't give a shit about that video.

Then what are you saying? You're making vague references to justifiable white anger and yet you can't actually point to what you're talking about or relate to what's happening on the CH site. I pointed out actual examples of what those commenters are saying and it's obvious bullshit. How hard is that to admit?

The OP and some of the initial comments aren't talking about the video at all. Roissy is a white nationalist/racist/HBD according to the OP and a few others. I say, so what? He has pretty damn good reasons for it and I'm simply justifying, in a logical manner, why someone like Roissy and others might think the way he/they do.

[speakeasy]

(06-05-2012 09:08 AM)ATTA Wrote:  

+1. Look there are racists out there. Many white men do feel threatened and insecure about non-whites dating white women. The inverse is true too. I [white] was on the receiving end when I dated some black and Indian girls. It happens and this angst is more likely to persist rather than diminish over time.

But to say that all whites, or people like Roissy who voice dissatisfaction with our current society are racist is a little unfair. It's not an accurate term. They see their society crumbling and view the path to restoration in the rubble of traditional and more 'natural' ways of carrying out domestic policy.

As Xenocrates concluded in his very interesting blog piece on the anatomy of racism, this is probably about the only thing that will effectively end racism on planet Earth:

[j r]

(06-05-2012 03:58 PM)ATTA Wrote:  

The OP and some of the initial comments aren't talking about the video at all. Roissy is a white nationalist/racist/HBD according to the OP and a few others. I say, so what? He has pretty damn good reasons for it and I'm simply justifying, in a logical manner, why someone like Roissy and others might think the way he/they do.

No offense, but I am having some difficulty locating any logic in what you're saying.

[TheNatural]

I like many used to be a frequent reader of Roissy. I don't think that it's him in particular that has a race issue but definitely the comment section has turned into Stormfront-lite.

Racism is a simple form of cowardice, while they are snickering and posting internet ridiculous comments guess what I'm doing. Banging their broads as a Black dude I don't seek out White chicks by any means but if the hottest chick in the bar happens to be White I'm on and if the hottest chick in the bar happens to be Indian (Red Dot Not Feather) then I will be on her.

[ElJefe]

1. I don't get this logic? Why the fuck would you read the comments section to verify whether a blog is good or not? Use your own brain to appraise his posts.

2. Men who get offended at Roissy's "racism" are suffering from the brain-damage progressive education and brainwashing has done to them. Progressives want to save the world, and they will want to do it on someone else's dime. That's why they suck. The following is a list of recent influential progressives:

George Bush Sr
Bill Clinton
George Bush Jr
Barack Obama
George Soros
Neo-Conservatives
Everyone in Hollywood
Anyone who thinks Germany losing WWI or the French Revolution was a good thing
Anyone who thinks government can save you from yourself

3. The manosphere is a reactionary movement to the gutting of the youthful dynamism and conquering spirit of what America used to be. That would be an America 80% white that dropped nukes on the Nips when they wouldn't surrender, gunboat diplomacy, stuff like that. It might be archaic and non-21st century and probably it's offensive to the minorities in here (although the black share of the population has remained relatively constant unlike hispanics, asians and whites), but that's the gist of it. They unashamedly believe it was better before and that there is a real causual relationship between how things have been going and the ethnic make-up of the US.

They are not entirely racists: most of these "right-wing nuts" acknowledge Asian and Cuban immigration has been a good thing, because Asians and Cubans do very well. Hispanics less so, and what's especially inexplicable is why blacks can't get their act together. Funnily enough, hispanics will be the undoing of blacks in the US - blacks are in fact very negative on immigration for the obvious reason that they ahve to compete for the same low wage jobs in a job environment where the unskilled are being slaughtered by globalisation.

EDIT

The rooshvforum is a funny anomaly, because of the younger, liberal make-up. I don't know where the liberal leaning opinions come from, but I imagine is has to do with a love of traveling and open-mindedness to other cultures. So it's easy to see how people here would be irritated at heartiste.

[j r]

(06-05-2012 05:47 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  

... what's especially inexplicable is why blacks can't get their act together.

What exactly does that sentence even mean?

[ElJefe]

(06-05-2012 06:04 PM)j r Wrote:  

(06-05-2012 05:47 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  

... what's especially inexplicable is why blacks can't get their act together.

What exactly does that sentence even mean?

over representation in statistics such as crime. Vietnamese don't act like that. vietnamese also have smaller penises. Go figure.

And as i feel the tsunami coming, let me repeat something i always say:

I don't deem to judge an invidual based on statistics. I will infer probabilities. But I would never think less of anyone I met on the street simply because of their skin color. I would always give him the benefit of the doubt.

that doesn't change the fact that blacks are more likely to do or be x,y and z, and asians l, m and n

[j r]

(06-05-2012 06:16 PM)ElJefe Wrote:  

Vietnamese don't act like that.

I found this in under 30 seconds of Googling: http://oag.ca.gov/news/press_release?id=1429

Quote:

There are nearly 500 Asian street gangs in California with the majority of them belonging to Vietnamese, Chinese/Vietnamese, Cambodian, Laotian, Hmong, and Mien gangs and are commonly referred to by law enforcement authorities as Southeast Asian gangs. The presence of Southeast Asian gangs in California began in the last 30 years after the fall of Saigon in 1975. Nearly all of their gang-related characteristics were adopted from existing street gangs and personalized for each of their respective gangs such as claiming colors, throwing hand signs and their way of walk, talk and dress.

What else you got?

Your whole premise is false. You're not elucidating any hidden truth. You're just taking some very well-worn stereotypes and mischaracterizations and trying to disguise them with some meaningless bullshit pseudo-scientific nonsense. Anyone with the most elementary understanding of statistics should know better than to accept most of the shit being tossed around by HBDers. People who accept are either not that bright or just looking for intellectual cover for their feelings. And you know what, those feelings are fine by me. It's a free country. If you want to be racist, just come out and be racist. Why hide it? Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

The problem for me is when people try to pass it of as something more than it is. When you shine a turd, some impressionable people will think you've got something of value, but most will just know it's a turd.

[SkeletonJelly?]

Yeah, you can't just come in here and make stuff up about black crime rates or test scores, jail population %, it's people like you that are the oppressors

[nicolas]

It's not about crime rate, it's about those white dudes who are insecure posting in the manosphere. I swear I saw one of them say that white men are second class citizens in america. What does that make minorities? fourth class citizens.

[Scarlet_Terror]

Quote:

I found this in under 30 seconds of Googling: http://oag.ca.gov/news/press_release?id=1429

How on Earth does posting an anecdote have anything to do with valid statistics? That's like me finding a 6'3 woman and saying women are taller than men.

[Tuthmosis]

We need a race troll smiley. I propose something like this:

[j r]

(06-05-2012 08:56 PM)Scarlet_Terror Wrote:  

Quote:

I found this in under 30 seconds of Googling: http://oag.ca.gov/news/press_release?id=1429

How on Earth does posting an anecdote have anything to do with valid statistics? That's like me finding a 6'3 woman and saying women are taller than men.

You misunderstand me. Statistics don't mean shit. Or rather, they don't mean what the HBD crowd likes to pretend they mean.

Dude said that "Vietnamese don't act like that." It took me less than 30 seconds to disprove that assertion. If your view of the world leads you to make wrong assertions, then your view of the world is wrong. It's that simple.

[MikeCF]

Let's assume that the HBD guys are right, namely that blacks have lower IQs, this is genetic, nothing can be done about it...and also assume that blacks' lower IQs predisposes them to all sorts of anti-social behavior.

WHAT IN THE FUCK DOES ANY OF THAT HAVE TO DO WITH GETTING LAID?

[j r]

(06-05-2012 09:11 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Let's assume that the HBD guys are right, namely that blacks have lower IQs, this is genetic, nothing can be done about it...and also assume that blacks' lower IQs predisposes them to all sorts of anti-social behavior.

WHAT IN THE FUCK DOES ANY OF THAT HAVE TO DO WITH GETTING LAID?

Are you for real? You really have no idea why someone would take issue with that?

[MikeCF]

(06-05-2012 09:14 PM)j r Wrote:  

(06-05-2012 09:11 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Let's assume that the HBD guys are right, namely that blacks have lower IQs, this is genetic, nothing can be done about it...and also assume that blacks' lower IQs predisposes them to all sorts of anti-social behavior.

WHAT IN THE FUCK DOES ANY OF THAT HAVE TO DO WITH GETTING LAID?

Are you for real? You really have no idea why someone would take issue with that?

Settle down, simmering pot.

You're too heated to read what I wrote.

Even if the HBD guys are right, why are guys on the Hardy Boys "game blog" talking about it?

"One of these things is not like the other."

[MikeCF]

By the way, here is what is funny to me.

The guys want to say that blacks are inferior.

If that's the case, why are these inferior men taking all your women?

Irony?

[j r]

Never mind. I dig.

[Hooligan Harry]

(06-05-2012 07:58 PM)nicolas Wrote:  

It's not about crime rate, it's about those white dudes who are insecure posting in the manosphere. I swear I saw one of them say that white men are second class citizens in america. What does that make minorities? fourth class citizens.

Its nonsense like this that drives so many white guys up the pole. Its one of the reasons why I am packing it in and leaving. I dont want to be part of a white male majority anymore because my back is broken. You can have it all, Ill go build somewhere else now. Seriously, see how you go without us.

Legislation being passed is decidedly anti white male, and minority groups are elevated for all manner of political reasons. If its not casino licenses or government jobs its different requirements for university entrance of forced quotas on company boards. Spend a few hours watching TV and show me how often the dumb white male is being shown, not to mention how often we are blamed for every conceivable social ill on the planet. Its happening in every single western country on the planet. From the UK to New Zealand to the USA.

And the justification for all this though is said to be needed to level the playing field.

Think about this

White men are so fucking successful we need to pass laws prohibiting them from doing shit just to give everyone else a chance? This is what we are saying? No wonder you have morons running around believing whites are superior. You need to pass LEGISLATION to cut their legs off. What sort of message does this send?

Whites ARE first class citizens because of their success. They ARE treated like second class citizens at times because its the only way we seem to be able to create the level playing field everyone is demanding.

How can any rational person, of any colour, deny this is happening?

[speakeasy]

(06-05-2012 09:32 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

(06-05-2012 07:58 PM)nicolas Wrote:  

It's not about crime rate, it's about those white dudes who are insecure posting in the manosphere. I swear I saw one of them say that white men are second class citizens in america. What does that make minorities? fourth class citizens.

Its nonsense like this that drives so many white guys up the pole. Its one of the reasons why I am packing it in and leaving. I dont want to be part of a white male majority anymore because my back is broken. You can have it all, Ill go build somewhere else now. Seriously, see how you go without us.

Legislation being passed is decidedly anti white male, and minority groups are elevated for all manner of political reasons. If its not casino licenses or government jobs its different requirements for university entrance of forced quotas on company boards. Spend a few hours watching TV and show me how often the dumb white male is being shown, not to mention how often we are blamed for every conceivable social ill on the planet. Its happening in every single western country on the planet. From the UK to New Zealand to the USA.

And the justification for all this though is said to be needed to level the playing field.

Think about this

White men are so fucking successful we need to pass laws prohibiting them from doing shit just to give everyone else a chance? This is what we are saying? No wonder you have morons running around believing whites are superior. You need to pass LEGISLATION to cut their legs off. What sort of message does this send?

Whites ARE first class citizens because of their success. They ARE treated like second class citizens at times because its the only way we seem to be able to create the level playing field everyone is demanding.

How can any rational person, of any colour, deny this is happening?

I could debate you line by line here, but I really don't care to as I'm not going to change your mind anyway. You seem to have a siege mentality and such people aren't amenable to persuasion anyway. All I can say is that I'd love to lock you in a room with Tim Wise, grab a big bag of popcorn and enjoy the ensuing entertainment.

[j r]

(06-05-2012 09:32 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

How can any rational person, of any colour, deny this is happening?

It's easy. And again, it's because I can go on Google and within 30 seconds find something that directly refutes your claim

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-575685.html

Quote:

The University of Chicago's Marianne Bertrand and MIT's Sendhil Mullainathan, however, appeared to find that a black-sounding name can be an impediment, in another recent NBER paper entitled "Are Emily and Greg More Employable Than Lakisha and Jamal?"

The authors took the content of 500 real resumes off online job boards and then evaluated them, as objectively as possible, for quality, using such factors as education and experience. Then they replaced the names with made-up names picked to "sound white" or "sound black" and responded to 1,300 job ads in The Boston Globe and Chicago Tribune last year.

Previous studies have examined how employers responded to similarly qualified applicants they meet in person, but this experiment attempted to isolate the response to the name itself.

White names got about one callback per 10 resumes; black names got one per 15. Carries and Kristens had call-back rates of more than 13 percent, but Aisha, Keisha and Tamika got 2.2 percent, 3.8 percent and 5.4 percent, respectively. And having a higher quality resume, featuring more skills and experience, made a white-sounding name 30 percent more likely to elicit a callback, but only 9 percent more likely for black-sounding names.

It turns out that being a minority isn't the golden ticket that you make it out to be.

I am sorry that you feel a certain level of frustration in your life, but blaming whole groups of people isn't likely to make you feel any better. Also, white people didn't build society, people built society, some of them white, some of them black, some of them brown. And just imagine what some of those black and brown folks felt when they worked as hard as any white man, when they went to war and fought for their countries, only to really be treated like second class citizens. No one today, black, white, whatever, goes through anything close to what they went through.

[Hooligan Harry]

(06-05-2012 09:43 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I could debate you line by line here, but I really don't care to as I'm not going to change your mind anyway. You seem to have a siege mentality and such people aren't amenable to persuasion anyway. All I can say is that I'd love to lock you in a room with Tim Wise, grab a big bag of popcorn and enjoy the ensuing entertainment.

All due respect Speakeasy, but when a progressive black man wants to lecture me on the privileged white male, I take it with a pinch of salt. You are never going to give up the victim card. Its the pussy between your legs.

My family came to Australia after fleeing Egypt when Nasser took everything from the Greeks. Greeks in Australia were treated like second class citizens and had to form communities to get through. I come from a lower class, blue collar home where two generations had to live together to get ourselves out of the mud.

I spent a great deal of my life being called a dago, and now I spend my latter years being called a privileged white male who does not understand the complexities of my fucking privilege.

From a historical perspective, whites took shit by force of arms, no different to everyone else on the planet at the time. They were also the first to end it, and your modern day progressive line of thinking is in itself a white, european concept.

Hell, we are all about maintaining privilege though hey?

I have been on the receiving end of this shit my entire life and I have had enough of it now. I get it, we are successful and we get shit done. The only way to uplift everyone else is to cut us down. Waiting for them to get shit done is going to take too long, and the pussy between the legs makes them believe they deserve it right now too.

Which is why I say you can have it all. Take it. Ill leave Australia to the progressives, women and minorities who feel its rightly theirs. They can have it like your brothers have Detroit, Atlanta, Baltimore, etc etc etc. Tell us how you do without us.

Ill probably end up back in Southern Europe or South America where its warm and Ill get shit going there instead. I have already tapped out, this white devil is waving goodbye.

[playa_with_a_passport]

(06-05-2012 09:11 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Let's assume that the HBD guys are right, namely that blacks have lower IQs, this is genetic, nothing can be done about it...and also assume that blacks' lower IQs predisposes them to all sorts of anti-social behavior.

WHAT IN THE FUCK DOES ANY OF THAT HAVE TO DO WITH GETTING LAID?

I always wondered about this myself. WN, HBDers, and some Mano-Boyz go on and on about Black IQ, Black crime rates , how much the White Man is being shitted on. but I just don't see the relationship between googling up statistics that support your worldview and pussy. Shit, on paper I shouldn't be getting the amount of pussy I am getting. That just goes to show you how much "statistics" and my lower IQ matter to these birds on the ground.

And I am with G, the first time I heard the term "Manosphere" I assumed it was some type of gay porn.

[Hooligan Harry]

[quote] (06-05-2012 09:51 PM)j r Wrote:  

[quote='Hooligan Harry' pid='219867' dateline='1338949937']
It's easy. And again, it's because I can go on Google and within 30 seconds find something that directly refutes your claim

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-575685.html

The University of Chicago's Marianne Bertrand and MIT's Sendhil Mullainathan, however, appeared to find that a black-sounding name can be an impediment, in another recent NBER paper entitled "Are Emily and Greg More Employable Than Lakisha and Jamal?"[/quote]

Its easy for me too. I can go online and find something that could refute your claim too. And then we spend all day too and fro as we exchange crime statistics, affirmative actions statistics and you post thoughtful, insightful opinion pieces explaining exactly how women earn 82cents to the dollar despite what the research tells us.

I know how this works, and I have no desire to get into this crap. Its ultimately pointless

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I am sorry that you feel a certain level of frustration in your life, but blaming whole groups of people isn't likely to make you feel any better.[/quote]

Who the fuck am I blaming? Lets get something straight. I am the demographic who is blamed for YOUR frustrations and inability to compete. Understand? I dont have AA programs, Employment Equity programs, charities, funds, movies being made about my struggle. Im the guy on the receiving end of that shit.

My reaction? Meh, take it then. I have been given nothing, I never had a safety net, and I dont need anything. Ill move on, you can have it. Ill do OK wherever I go. I really dont care.

I just wont take it up the ass. You dont need me? Cya! Best of luck to you all!

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Also, white people didn't build society, people built society, some of them white, some of them black, some of them brown. And just imagine what some of those black and brown folks felt when they worked as hard as any white man, when they went to war and fought for their countries, only to really be treated like second class citizens. No one today, black, white, whatever, goes through anything close to what they went through.[/quote]

No, the society you live in was built by whites. Learn to deal with this and stop being intellectually dishonest. Labor is work, but its pointless work without the foundations of creativity. Every anglo nation on the planet was built by Europeans. Almost every major system, invention and convenience you enjoy was developed by whites. Its just the way it is.

Im sorry that this unfortunate truth is so uncomfortable, and I am sorry that people were exploited to make it a reality. You cant change history, it was the way of the world at the time and is still the way of the world in parts of Asia and Africa now.

I will never judge a man by the colour of his skin. I have met too many people and seen too much to know that a person can never be judged on something so superficial. I will say though that Africans may think they have suffered, but no racial demographic has ever had it easier in the history of mankind than them. Eveything has been handed over on a platter and people are bending over backwards to help them and uplift them.

No one did the Jews, Slavs or Gauls any such favours. No one helped the Arabs to this degree. The Persians and Semites. Hell, more Slavs have died at the hands of ethnic discrimination and war than any other demographic. American had slavery? The whole of Russia was enslaved! Every man, woman and child up until 30 years ago.

Fuck it, Im dealing with close minded bigots suffering from an entitlement complex.

You are a brainwashed idiot.